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Post Date: 2010-07-24

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  Quote Orolo Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Topic: Any feedback on this gaming PC configuration?
    Posted: 24 Jul 2010 at 2:44am
Hello all, I'm looking to build a gaming PC on this site for $1600 to $1700 max. Here's what I've developed with some help from some friends of mine, and my own input:

Specifications: 
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master CM 690 II Advanced
Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 965 (3.4GHz) (Quad Core) (Black Edition) (8 MB Cache) AM3 Socket
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-890XA-UD3 (AMD 790X Chipset) (SATA3 and USB 3.0) (Socket AM3)
System Memory: 4GB DDR3 1600MHz Corsair Dominator DHX (High-Performance)
Power Supply: 750W Digital Storm Certified (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition Recommended)
Hard Drive Set 1: 1x (1TB Hitachi/Seagate (7200 RPM) (32MB Cache)
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 768MB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 1: High Performance Cooler (Compatible With ONLY i5/AMD Processors)
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Blue)
Boost Processor: FREE: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Cooling Upgrade Recommended)
Boost Video Card: FREE: Yes, Overclock the video card(s) as much as possible with complete stability
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Display: !PROMO BUNDLE: Acer 22 inch LCD + Logitech (Keyboard + Mouse) + Logitech Speakers

So I have a few questions that I'd like to be answered.
Is the cooling system enough? If not, what should it be?
Is rolling with 2x SLI 460s a good decision over, say, 1x 470? I'm pretty sure SLI 2x 460s are better.
I'm also pretty sure that 1x Radeon 5970 would be better than my current Dual SLI 460s, if I'm right, I'd like to see if I can
play with this configuration to make a 5970 possible.
If I got a 5970, I think it would also be easier to upgrade my GPUs in the future, since crossfire seems to be
much more versatile than SLI, from what I've seen.
Here's an important one: Is my processor overkill? Remember, I'm looking to build a good gaming PC, that can run
most games at good framerates at max settings for years to come.
Any other feedback would be much appreciated, thanks!


Edited by Orolo - 24 Jul 2010 at 2:46am
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  Quote ablahblah Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Jul 2010 at 5:42am
so, pretty much, your maximum SYSTEM budget is $1400~$1500, seeing as you want the peripherals bundle. welp, here's my 2 cents. going for a well balanced build, so i7's out of the question.

- swapping out for an i5 build would be great
- upgrade the case if you wanna overclock. HAF 922 is suggested as a nice medium grade gaming pc case.
- psu's good
- i think you can squash in a nice 40GB SSD in there
- stay away from multi-gpu setups as much as possible, unless you have the seriousness to go with it to gain bleeding edge performance. if you're a high-end gamer, stick with single gpu builds. if you're a high-end gaming enthusiast who's rich and wants to get the freaking best, multi-gpu. lol.
- better cooler if you wanna overclock better.
- no video card overclocking. doesn't gain much performance on stock, and increases stock fan noise.

my build:
Build No. 424791 w/i5 750
$1687
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - HAF 922
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i5 750 2.66GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA P55 SLI (Intel P55 Chipset)
System Memory: 4GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 750W Digital Storm Certified (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition Recommended)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (40GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: X-25V Edition) (Extreme Performance)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 768MB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 1:Coolermaster V6 GT Dual 120mm Fans High Performance Cooler (Compatible With AMD, i5, i
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Blue)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: FREE: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Cooling Upgrade Recommended)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: FREE: Hot-selling game with a NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 or above graphics card
Display: !PROMO BUNDLE: Acer 22 inch LCD + Logitech (Keyboard + Mouse) + Logitech Speakers
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Large)
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty



(final note, if you want, the GTX 460 1GB is $30 more, and has significantly better memory speeds compared to the 756mb actually. you could inquire DS on how much it would be exactly to include it in your build)


Edited by ablahblah - 24 Jul 2010 at 5:44am
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  Quote Runes Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Jul 2010 at 1:38pm
Why shove a SSD into a build under $2k to start with? In my opinion, you're wasting the 8% of his budget that you used to stick it in there. SSD's are too new to be worth sticking into builds until at least $2k.

If you drop the SSD and leave everything else the same, you can bump up to a 470. I'd recommend doing that because gaming's bottleneck is graphical power, not hard drive speed. In other words, you want the best graphics you can fit in your budget.

Edited by Runes - 24 Jul 2010 at 1:42pm
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  Quote Cretae Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Jul 2010 at 6:13pm
Runes is absolutely correct. Get the 470.
And no, 2x 460's is not "better" for a variety of reasons.
 
An ATI 5970 in your build is like a Shelby engine in an Escort. Except that this Shelby engine misses on one cylinder. The 5970 is a lousy card, even though it's numbers impress the innocent. It doesn't even belong in the coversation.
 
The 470 or the ATI 5850 is all you need, and by the time you need more, these models will be obsolete.
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  Quote Orolo Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Jul 2010 at 11:35pm
Thank you all very much for the feedback thus far. Your build suggestion, ablahblah, was pretty solid for my purposes for the most part; besides for the SSD and processor(which I will explain later). I agree with Runes on his supported opinion that on a gaming rig, the GPU takes priority over getting an SSD on this kind of budget.

And no, 2x 460's is not "better" for a variety of reasons.

I trust this, since you probably know more about SLI than I, however, out of curiosity, would you care to explain why? I've heard several different arguments for, and against SLI on this rig.

As far as my processor is concerned, I'm pretty sure I'm just going to stick with the AMD Phenom 965 quad core. The processor you suggested, ablahblah, wasn't compatible with a motherboard that supported USB 3.0. I know that the intel supports HT and is better, but honestly, I think the AMD will be fine, I don't plan to be doing anything significant outside of gaming right now that would make the intel you suggested impact performance a lot. If I get into graphic design, or something, I imagine it'd be fairly easy to upgrade the processor to a 1090T. I will be overclocking the 965 anyway. I am taking your advice and not overclocking the video card though.

I'm confident with this build (which is basically the first one I posted except it has a 470 instead of the dual 460s, the cooler, and case that ablahblah suggested.) and I plan to be making a purchase very soon.

Digital Storm has been great, good savings, good community, and a very friendly interface with awesome perks that provide a sense of caring about what they do, definitely satisfied with my experience here.


Edited by Orolo - 25 Jul 2010 at 12:53am
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  Quote Cretae Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Jul 2010 at 6:19pm

Generally, I am a single card solution afficianado. When you depend upon two lesser cards to power your graphics, there is no fallback when it doesn't work out. Dual cards in general can be buggy, result in artifacting, and not all games support it, though most of the newer ones seem to.

Actually, I was hoping to give you a harder answer than just my bias, but the 2x460's scale better than I expected them to, and it's not as bad as I thought if you are completely sold on dual card gaming. The problem I have is if one card fails, what do you have? If it malfunctions on your favorite game, what do you have?
Simpler is always better with electronic gear because it works in such mysterious ways. I would love to have all the hours back I have wasted troubleshooting electronics over the years. But some people love that stuff. It challenges them in some perverse way. Just not me.
Not quite a complete retraction, but 2x460's is not the worst idea I've seen lately.
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