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Hey im looking for any advice or suggestions about my configuration. Money isnt an issue at the moment and im aiming at a pretty high end computer.
 
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Chassis Model: Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - EXOTIC StormBlack High-Gloss Automotive Paint Finish
Interior Finish: - EXOTIC StormBlack High-Gloss Automotive Paint Finish
Trim Accents: Paint All Trim Accents: Chassis Vents, Grills, Screws, and Hose Clamps (White)
Processor: Intel Core i7 Extreme Edition 975 3.33GHz (Quad Core) (Extreme Performance)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 Classified 3X SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports Triple SLI or CrossFire)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 2000MHz Digital Storm Certified by mushkin enhanced (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1200W Digital Storm Certified (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition Highly Recommended)
Card Reader: Internal Digital Media Card Reader (Black)
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (300GB Western Digital VelociRaptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (Extreme Speed)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 2x (1.5TB Seagate Barracuda (7200 RPM) (32MB Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: Blu-Ray Writer/Reader (Burn Blu-Ray discs and play them)
Optical Drive 2: DVDąR/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)
Internet Access: Killer Xeno Pro (Optimized for Online Gaming) Lag and Latency Reduction
Video Card: 2x SLI Quad (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 1.792GB) (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Creative Labs X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Champion (Includes Front I/O) (PCI-Express Slot Based)
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 3: Specialized FrostBite Separate Dual Loop System for CPU & Two GTX 295 Video Cards
Liquid Color:UV Green: High Glowing Non-conductive Fluid (Requires H20: Stage 3 & UV Lighting)
Chassis Airflow: Upgrade Chassis With LED Performance Fans (Green)
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (UV) (Creates Glowing Effect For H20: Stage 3 UV Fluid)
Enhancements: NVIDIA Enthusiast System Architecture (ESA) System (Install, Test, Optimize Computer)
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock the processor between 4.0GHz to 4.2GHz (Requires H20 Cooling Upgrade)
Boost Video Card: Yes, Overclock the video card(s) as much as possible with complete stability
Boost Memory: Yes, Overclock memory frequency (Includes Memory Fan Kit Installed)
Tweak Windows: Yes, Disable and tweak all of the non-crucial services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate (64-Bit Edition) With Windows 7 Upgrade Coupon
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: McAfee Internet Security (Includes: AntiVirus, FireWall and AntiSpyware)
Office: Microsoft Office 2007 Home and Student (Word Excel PowerPoint OneNote)
Benchmarking: 3D Mark Vantage Advanced Edition (By: Futuremark) (Pre-Install) (Vista Compatible Only)
Install/Test Game: Crysis: Warhead (Pre-Install, apply updates, and test gameplay with my system)
 
Really dont care about the price money isnt an issue
Total Price with Instant Savings: $8,549.00
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Is there really that much difference in performance between the 965 and the 975 that makes it worth the $400 price difference? also i hear a lot of people saying the killer xeno is pointless is this true? Why is it pointless? For ram obviously 1866 isnt quite as good as 2000 mhz but how big of a difference are we talking? Would this sort of build need a 1200w power supply or would a 1000w do just fine? What exactly does nvidia ESA allow me to do? Is it worth it or should i just put a fan control in? Im sure i will come up with a few more questions before i order. Thank you for the help.

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One more question for now. Is this a good monitor to compliment this computer? ASUS VK266H Black 25.5" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor w/ Built in Speakers 300 cd/m2 1000:1 (ASCR 20000:1 ). If not can i get a few suggestions of one around the same price/size that is better. I know its kinda dumb but i do like the built in webcam 1 less thing to clutter my desk and such. Once again advice and suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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ASUS VK266H Black 25.5" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor w/ Built in Speakers 300 cd/m2 1000:1 (ASCR 20000:1 ) costs about $330 by the way.
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  Quote skyR Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Aug 2009 at 1:47pm
You can see for yourself if the cost difference between the i7 965 and 975 is worth it:

http://www.guru3d.com/article/core-i7-975-review/1
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=722&type=expert&pid=7

You won't notice any real world performance gains between 1866MHz and 2000MHz RAM.

Nvidia ESA lets you monitor your computer hardware's temperatures and other stuff. But don't bother with it as it is a dead standard. Even Nvidia themselves stopped supporting it, quite ironic.

You probably could save some money and just go with 2x GTX 275 as you don't need 2x GTX 295 for 1920x1200 resolution.

And I'd suggest a solid state disk over a raptor drive if you want performance.

Don't waste money on the killer xenos. It's just a $100 paperweight. Everyone that has high-end PCs should be able to afford a cable or fiber connection.

The VK266H is a decent monitor for gaming and general computer tasks.


Edited by skyR - 09 Aug 2009 at 1:50pm
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Aug 2009 at 2:33pm
skyR is right, the only thing is that the 975 will run cooler then 965, what is your ticket number?
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  Quote MR2 Horrell Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Aug 2009 at 6:37pm
Awsome info so far thanks.
ok so i do like the 975 i think i will stick with that even at the higher cost
 
will go with the 1866 ram
 
will get rid of nvidia ESA and replace it with the NZXT sentry
 
what sort of performance differences are we talking between the 275s and the 295s or is it really just a matter of the 275 is enough for the resolution for the monitor where the 295 would just be unused power?
 
also will get rid of the killer xeno but what should i put in its place? (d-link , linksys, nothing?)
 
this is probably a really dumb question but is solid state really that much better i mean im not about to spend nearly a grand on just my hard drive so that pretty much only leaves me with putting in the 120 gig one is it that much better then the raptor? lol ya that probably sounds like a complete newb question but hey i am trying to learn this stuff lol.
 
is mcafee any good? or should i just get it with out and add my own virus software? (if so what should i get?)
 
thanks again guys i really appreciate the help
 
and here is the new setup
 
Total Price with Instant Savings: $7,555.00
 
Specifications:
Chassis Model: Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - EXOTIC StormBlack High-Gloss Automotive Paint Finish
Interior Finish: - EXOTIC StormBlack High-Gloss Automotive Paint Finish
Trim Accents: Paint All Trim Accents: Chassis Vents, Grills, Screws, and Hose Clamps (Blue)
Processor: Intel Core i7 Extreme Edition 975 3.33GHz (Quad Core) (Extreme Performance)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 Classified 3X SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports Triple SLI or CrossFire)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1866MHz Corsair Dominator DHX (High-Performance)
Power Supply: 1000W Corsair HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition)
Card Reader: Internal Digital Media Card Reader (Black)
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (120GB Solid State (By: OCZ) Solid Series (Model: OCZSSD2-1SLD120G)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 2x (1.5TB Seagate Barracuda (7200 RPM) (32MB Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: Blu-Ray Writer/Reader (Burn Blu-Ray discs and play them)
Optical Drive 2: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 275 1792MB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Creative Labs X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Champion (Includes Front I/O) (PCI-Express Slot Based)
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 3: Specialized FrostBite Separate Dual Loop System for CPU & Two Video Cards
Liquid Color:UV Green: High Glowing Non-conductive Fluid (Requires H20: Stage 3 & UV Lighting)
Chassis Airflow: Upgrade Chassis With LED Performance Fans (Green)
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (UV) (Creates Glowing Effect For H20: Stage 3 UV Fluid)
Enhancements: LCD NZXT Sentry LX Temperature Display & Fan Controller (Requires Chassis Airflow Upgrade)
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock the processor between 4.0GHz to 4.2GHz (Requires H20 Cooling Upgrade)
Boost Video Card: Yes, Overclock the video card(s) as much as possible with complete stability
Boost Memory: Yes, Overclock memory frequency (Includes Memory Fan Kit Installed)
Tweak Windows: Yes, Disable and tweak all of the non-crucial services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate (64-Bit Edition) With Windows 7 Upgrade Coupon
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: McAfee Internet Security (Includes: AntiVirus, FireWall and AntiSpyware)
Office: Microsoft Office 2007 Home and Student (Word Excel PowerPoint OneNote)
Benchmarking: 3D Mark Vantage Advanced Edition (By: Futuremark) (Pre-Install) (Vista Compatible Only)
Install/Test Game: Crysis: Warhead (Pre-Install, apply updates, and test gameplay with my system)
 
here is the ticket number for my revamped setup
Ticket Number: 319277
 
 
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  Quote MR2 Horrell Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Aug 2009 at 6:43pm
ok so i guess i could go with the 256 solid state which would put me right at 8 grand which is fine so i will probably do that but whats the difference between the vertex series and the solid state drives?
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Aug 2009 at 6:55pm
Here you go Ticket# 319281 --- Price: $7237 (To see this build click here) Price after current promotion $6737

Copy of Specifications:
Chassis Model: Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - EXOTIC StormBlack High-Gloss Automotive Paint Finish
Interior Finish: - EXOTIC StormBlack High-Gloss Automotive Paint Finish
Trim Accents: Paint All Trim Accents: Chassis Vents, Grills, Screws, and Hose Clamps (Blue)
Processor: Intel Core i7 Extreme Edition 975 3.33GHz (Quad Core) (Extreme Performance)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 Classified 3X SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports Triple SLI or CrossFire)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1866MHz Corsair Dominator DHX (High-Performance)
Power Supply: 1000W Corsair HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition)
Card Reader: Internal Digital Media Card Reader (Black)
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (120GB Solid State (By: OCZ) Solid Series (Model: OCZSSD2-1SLD120G)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital (7200 RPM) (32MB Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: 1x (1TB Western Digital (7200 RPM) (32MB Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed)
Optical Drive 1: Blu-Ray Writer/Reader (Burn Blu-Ray discs and play them)
Optical Drive 2: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 275 1792MB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Creative Labs X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Champion (Includes Front I/O) (PCI-Express Slot Based)
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 3: Specialized FrostBite Separate Dual Loop System for CPU & Two Video Cards
Liquid Color:UV Green: High Glowing Non-conductive Fluid (Requires H20: Stage 3 & UV Lighting)
Chassis Airflow: Upgrade Chassis With LED Performance Fans (Green)
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (UV) (Creates Glowing Effect For H20: Stage 3 UV Fluid)
Enhancements: LCD NZXT Sentry LX Temperature Display & Fan Controller (Requires Chassis Airflow Upgrade)
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock the processor between 4.0GHz to 4.2GHz (Requires H20 Cooling Upgrade)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: Memory Fan Kit Only (Does not include memory overclocking service)
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate (64-Bit Edition) With Windows 7 Upgrade Coupon
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: 3D Mark Vantage Advanced Edition (By: Futuremark) (Pre-Install) (Vista Compatible Only)
Install/Test Game: Crysis: Warhead (Pre-Install, apply updates, and test gameplay with my system)
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-10 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty

vertex or corsair, you can't go wrong, tho Jason said that ocz has been giving them trouble.

I like to pointout that unless you specifically request the front fan to be changed, it will stay red, the fan upgrade does not include that fan.

also with dual loop and an i7 975, you don't need fan upgrade or the the lcd temp control, drop them if you ask me.

If I were you I would drop the paint also, but thats a personal choice, thats just me.

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  Quote skyR Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Aug 2009 at 7:44pm
Your storage choice honestly depends on the tasks you going to be doing and personal preference. Like personally I'd think raptors themselves are a waste but many people don't. If you're just going to be gaming and nothing else, I don't think SSDs are needed. Here's a review for you to decide yourself:

http://pcper.com/article.php?aid=750&type=expert&pid=1

The GTX 295 has 2 GPUs on one card so by getting 2x GTX 295, you basically have 4 GPUs. That kind of power isn't necessary unless you are using a 30" monitor. The GTX 275 is basically what makes up the GTX 295. So buying two GTX 275, you basically have a better performing GTX 295. Ya I know it's confusing and I'm bad at explaining. You can see the performance of the two cards here:

http://www.guru3d.com/article/inno3d-geforce-gtx-295-platinum-review-test/12

Don't get mcafee, it's a resource hog =p If you're looking for free anti-virus, you can get AVG or avast. If you're looking for paid anti-virus, nod32 is the best.

You don't have to get a separate network card since every motherboard has 1 or 2 ethernet ports.


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  Quote MR2 Horrell Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Aug 2009 at 8:14pm
why would you not have them overclock the graphics card and ram? and tweak the OS?
 
and thanks again for the help
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  Quote satsunada Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Aug 2009 at 9:33pm
Minimal benefits for overclocking and something you can do yourself IF you feel you need to. Tweaking the OS is something you can do yourself as well or if you feel really deficient you could look around online for stuff.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Aug 2009 at 11:13pm
GPU OC is not needed, as 2 x 275 will give you what you need, extra power will not be noticed, but the heat from it will be noticed.

OS tweak is not needed, with these beasts, OS tweak will yield nothing you will notice either.

ram OC is something you will never know and will not make any noticeable difference.

Edited by DST4ME - 09 Aug 2009 at 11:14pm
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