Are these specs good enough?Post Date: 2020-07-16 |
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JAllen_11 
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I am buying from Digital Storm for the first time and I have felt a little overwhelmed by the choices. I am pretty comfortable with getting the sealed cpu cooler instead of the more advanced liquid cooler options at least for my first PC. With that said I am trying to decide if my choices are good and whether or not I should bother with paying to have my cpu and GPU overclocked. I will list my specs below. Thank you in advance everyone.
Specifications: Chassis Model: Digital Storm Velox Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i9-10900X (10-Core) (Boost Up to 4.5 GHz) Motherboard: ASUS ROG Rampage VI Extreme Encore (Wi-Fi) (Intel X299 Chipset) (Up to 4x PCI-E Devices) <br><strong></strong> System Memory: 64GB DDR4 3000MHz Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro (RGB Light Bar) <br><strong></strong> Power Supply: 1000W Digital Storm Performance Series (Semi-Modular) (80 Plus Gold) <br><strong></strong> Expansion Bay: - No Thanks Optical Drive: - No Thanks Storage Set 1: 1x SSD (2TB Samsung 860 EVO) <br><strong></strong> Storage Set 2: 1x Storage (4TB Western Digital / Seagate - Ultrastar Data Center / IronWolf) <br><strong></strong> Storage Set 3: 1x Storage (4TB Western Digital / Seagate - Ultrastar Data Center / IronWolf) <br><strong></strong> RAID Config: - No Thanks RAID Card: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11GB (VR Ready) <br><strong></strong> Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio HPC Processor: - No Thanks Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex Liquid CPU Cooler (Dual Fan) (Fully Sealed + No Maintenance) HydroLux Tubing Style: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected HydroLux Fluid Color: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected Cable Management: Exotic Cable Management - Black - (Cable Combs with Custom Color Sleeved Extension Cables) <br><strong></strong> Chassis Fans: Thermaltake Riing Plus (RGB Fans) (Software Controlled Effects) <br><strong></strong> Internal Lighting: Digital Storm LED Lighting System <br><strong></strong> Airflow Control: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Noise Reduction: - No Thanks LaserMark: Option Not Available Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock CPU - Up to 4.8GHz via Intel Turbo Boost Max Technology 3.0 <br><strong></strong> Boost Graphics Card(s): Yes, Overclock the video card(s) as much as possible with complete stability <br><strong></strong> Boost OS: Yes, Disable and tweak all of the non-crucial services on the operating system <br><strong></strong> Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Professional (64-Bit Edition) <br><strong></strong> Recovery Tools: USB Drive - Windows 10 Installation (Format and Clean Install) Virus Protection: Windows Defender Antivirus (Built-in to Windows 10) Office: - No Thanks Mouse Pad: - No Thanks Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks Branded Gear: - No Thanks Priority Build: - No Thanks, 6 Week Ship Estimate After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 4 Year Limited Warranty (4 Year Labor & 2 Year Part Replacement) <br><strong></strong> |
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JAllen_11
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Posted: 16 Jul 2020 at 9:07pm |
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....Merged duplicate threads...
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John18
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Posted: 16 Jul 2020 at 9:07pm |
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We need to know what you intend to do with the machine before we can advise you.
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Posted: 16 Jul 2020 at 9:14pm |
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Since we all know buying a new PC, (this will be my first btw) as I have only had one laptop up until now, can be a huge expense I figured the best thing to do would be to go all out with as best options within my budget. I am studying to be in the cyber security field as well as also being a game programmer in my free time. I also will be using the system for gaming but not all games since i will buy most games on the PS5 when it comes out. Does that help?
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Welcome to DS. That is some system you configured. Just so you know, the Velox is an exclusive propietary DS design. The window is on the right hand side and mobo is mounted upside down. (gpu will be on top of cpu instead of below). Now, at what resolution are you going to use this monster? And what is the proposed use? That gpu will do 4K but not needed for anything else. There are some parts that will be better depending on your uses. Have heard that the cpu is delayed. Do you need that one or will AMD do? In general, you will do better with faster Storage. You have SATA (860 Evo) selected and now you can go with the much faster NVMe drives. I am partial with Samsung but any will do. For the primary (OS) drive I'd keep it at around 500GB and secondary (you have the mobo for it) I'd go with a 2TB one. The memory is way above what is generally needed and if you are doing scientific work, probably not enough. 32GB is overkill for normal use, 16GB seems to be sweet spot. You don't NEED that much psu but I always go for more than needed so... The OS and gpu boosts are not needed. The OS is already pretty pretty clean and on air that gpu would probably throttle down for temps negating the oc. This is an overview, I am not one of the Smart Guys configurator gurus but this will give you something to toy with.
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Cretae
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Posted: 17 Jul 2020 at 5:28am |
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Generally speaking, "going all out with as best options within my budget" is not the best strategy. Within six months to a year, everything you spent top dollar on has been superseded by a better part. Buying a new PC does not have to be a "huge expense" when purpose-built. The better outcome IMHO comes from building with an eye toward your highest and best use. Don't waste money on what you don't need now, as better parts will become available as you have need of them later. As a gamer, I don't have any idea what you might need for Cyber Security, nor am I versed in what's best for a programmer. I know you don't NEED a monster machine for coding, but YOU might want one.
One huge change that has been well-won in personal computing is that today's CPUs are yesterday's mainframes! What's available today is so fast and capable, it's not hard to select a CPU that will perform well for perhaps 8 years or more depending upon the work. AI research needs the fastest and best at all times because the horizon keeps moving, but game coding? How much will change? It's basically just typing symbols and text, no? You want cores and threads to compile with, but an AMD 3950X gives you 16 and 32 of those at 4.7 GHz! The suggestions so far have been good, but IMHO, you need to do some research on what your needs truly are. One thing that really stands out in your build, for example, is the massive amount of storage. Seems to me, by the time you came anywhere near filling up the first HDD, you'd find you'd much rather have an SSD instead. The GPU is only about 2 months from being obsolete, as new cards are coming in September. What is your NEED there? It's better to have flexibility to upgrade as your needs change than to be locked into an over-investment that's rapidly aging. Am I making sense? Storage, RAM and GPU upgrades are really easy, honest. I'm not trying to rain on your parade, just trying to convince you that a purpose-built rig will be a tool you can use for many years, and not just a box full of aging parts. I wish I knew what your best configuration would be, but I just don't know much about your uses. Please take time to search out what you really need, I don't think you'll regret it.
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JAllen_11
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Posted: 17 Jul 2020 at 7:23am |
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Hey guys! Thanks a lot with the great advice. Primary uses as mentioned would be for coding for games as well as cyber security related work. Still don't know what all that will entail as I am still learning the field. I do know that I will need to use a virtual machine with Kali Linux which takes a toll on my current old laptop.
As far as gaming I will most likely want the Halo series including the new one and also I usually buy Bethesda's games on PC for modding. I also would not mind learning to mod as well and I know I would need a decent machine for that. I know you are concerned that I am buying parts that will be obsolete and I know this but I also know after I make this purchase that I will be using it as is for a while as I don't have good enough funds to constantly upgrade the machine. This is also my first desktop so everything will be new to me. I do think you guys are right and maybe I should switch the first hard drive to a SSD. As far as processor I would prefer Intel as it is a personal preference. The site does not mention delay on the one I have chosen unlike the 10900K model which will not be available until October. I will follow the suggestion not to boost the OS and GPU but should I still oc the cpu? I know I might not be making a lot of sense with my choices but as I said I am trying to keep this with an Intel processor. The high ram is simply because I want a big upgrade from my laptop which has 12gb. I know over 32 is overkill but I am the type of person that runs a lot of stuff at once and I currently run into filling up my 12 every day. Do you guys reccomend the Velox chassis or should I get something else? I liked it since it mentioned possible better airflow but I also liked the Lumos chassis. I will do another configuration with the couple of changes to storage as advised and post it later on. Please give any other advice from the info I gave in this post. Thank you. Edited by JAllen_11 - 17 Jul 2020 at 7:28am |
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Cretae
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Posted: 18 Jul 2020 at 4:56am |
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Just to be clear, the primary drive you selected IS an SSD, but it's not a Non-Volatile Memory express (NVMe) model which is 5 times faster than SATA. The M.2 form factor slips into a slot on the motherboard with no wires or cables and runs off the PCIe bus like a video card. It's a game-changer as your primary drive.
I have no issue at all with a lot of RAM, it will be a great help. The CPU can be overclocked. If at all affordable, get more cores. Rendering loves cores. Be advised Nvidia is coming with new video cards in September. If it were my money, I would get a lesser card as a place-holder until I saw the new line. A 2060 SUPER could be enough until then, if that's a viable option. The 2080 equivalent (3080) is thought likely to be more powerful than a 2080Ti at a 2080-like price. I 100% understand the Intel choice. For those listening in, everyone should understand AMD has taken a QUANTUM LEAP forward in CPU design and performance, and while Intel is still king of gaming, AMD is often superior in price/performance for productivity. That's a fact.
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JAllen_11
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Posted: 19 Jul 2020 at 11:29am |
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I did take the advice on dropping down a bit on the graphics card. I also switched my storage and have a NVMe in the first slot and another ssd in the second slot while keeping the 4tb hard drive in the third slot. I really do appreciate the help and also to the chat specialist that talked to me when making my purchase. I am real excited to have my new system as soon as possible.
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Cretae
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Posted: 20 Jul 2020 at 4:06am |
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I think you will get a lot from your storage solution. Best wishes!
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