Back for round 2

Getting back to PC gaming since my last DS purchase back in 2011. Anything changed?
Looking for a nice system that will last 5/6 years for new AAA titles, Steam backlog, etc. Was into a lot of FPS with a mix of MMO/WoW and some adventure games. Would appreciate anyone who's kept up with everything to see if there is anything I'm missing or overlooked on this build.

Budget:
~4k

Usage:
High end gaming over the next 5/6 years or so. Currently using a HP Z27 2TB68A8 for work (4k but only 60hz) but eventually will be upgrading to a SAMSUNG Odyssey G7 4k or 1440 monitor or something similar. Not sure how I feel about the curve.

Special Needs:
Wifi connection, all the RGB's (kids love it), something with some room to grow down the road.

Few open questions on this build:
Seems like DDR 5 isn't worth it now but seems better to have it now if needed later. Any downside other than cost?

Power benchmarks on the 4080 seems much better than the monster 4090. Is 850W PS a good fit without overkill?

Went with the trip fan CPU cooler option because the upgrade was minor, any downside to that over the 2? Case seems plenty big enough.

Any special adjustments need to be made with the RGB fans upgrade? Last build I did I added an extra fan but this seems pretty straightforward unless I'm missing something.


Appreciate any and all feedback. Thanks!


Specifications:
ID: 4547811

Chassis Model: Digital Storm Lumos
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7-13700KF (5.4 GHz Turbo) (24-Thread) (16-Core) 3.4 GHz (Raptor Lake)
Motherboard: ASUS Prime Z790-P D5 (Wi-Fi) (Intel Z790 Chipset) (Up to 3x PCI-E Devices) (No SLI) (DDR5) <br><strong></strong>
System Memory: 64GB DDR5 5200MHz Kingston FURY Beast RGB <br><strong></strong>
Power Supply: 850W Digital Storm Performance Series (Modular) (80 Plus Gold) <br><strong></strong>
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Optical Drive: - No Thanks
Storage Set 1: 1x SSD M.2 (2TB Samsung 970 EVO PLUS) (NVM Express) <br><strong></strong>
Storage Set 2: - No Thanks
Storage Set 3: - No Thanks
RAID Config: - No Thanks
RAID Card: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce RTX 4080 16GB (VR Ready) <br><strong></strong>
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
HPC Processor: - No Thanks
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 3: Digital Storm Vortex Liquid CPU Cooler (Triple Fan) (Fully Sealed + No Maintenance) <br><strong></strong>
HydroLux Tubing Style: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected
HydroLux Fluid Color: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected
Cable Management: Premium Cable Management (Strategically Routed & Organized for Airflow)
Chassis Fans: Cooler Master MasterFan Halo (RGB Fans) (Remote Control Only) <br><strong></strong>
Internal Lighting: Remote Controlled Advanced LED Lighting System (Multiple RGB Color Modes)
Airflow Control: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: Option Not Available
Boost Processor: Turbo Boost Advanced Automatic Overclocking
Boost Graphics Card(s): - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 11 Home (64-Bit)
Recovery Tools: USB Drive - Windows Installation (Format and Clean Install)
Virus Protection: Windows Defender Antivirus (Built-in to Windows)

Thanks for the feedback!

Great info on the SSD, those were not a thing last time around so it's good to know the difference and performance upgrade there. Will definitely make that change and take a look at the other options you suggested as well.

I appreciate it.

even if you aren't planning on overclocking, my concern about the wattage of your PSU selection is that according to this calculator>https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator, you right at the recommended PSU wattage.  gaming won't be like running benchmarks or any other strenuous load, but there are transient spikes and efficiency degradation over the years you'll be using your system.  personally, i like to plan at least a 10% overhead, so i'd recommend bumping that up to a 1000W PSU. 

Originally posted by Cretae My friend's assessment of your power needs seem to be rooted in keeping your over-the-top original parts. As it happens, before he posted, I looked at https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator    and came up with ~560W usage with my revisions. (I even threw in a "high end" sound card to account for something you might add to a PCIe slot.) So that's the key to which PSU you might get. The 251W for your GPU might have been over-estimated because it's surprisingly low, and it's not listed yet in the calculator. I used a 3070 at 220W and added 30W to the final total. That makes somewhere just north of 600W the calculator's recommendation, which is comfortably under 850W IMHO.

i config'd it with a 13600KF (stock) and RTX 3080 (roughly comparable) with the PSU at a recommended 91% efficiency target.   GamersNexus testing/benchmarks re the 4080FE power consumption at stock speeds is pulling around 315W and 343W oc, confirming the comparison to 3080 power consumption.  these are averages on their particular test bench.  i believe Nvidia's own req is a 750W PSU for the 4080FE.

Edited by db188 - 22 Nov 2022 at 11:32am

Good stuff. Just to clarify, I quick-Googled the RTX 4080 and got back the power spec for the discontinued-before-release(!) 4080 12GB. Oops, my bad, and thanks to db188 for the correction.

I agree with the consensus to check into the AMD cards before pulling the trigger. They do promise a lot to consider, and I'm all about saving hundreds to come close to the other guy's performance. After all the years I've spent doing this, I'm really tired of hearing about 7fps that cost someone 400 bucks. I do prefer Nvidia's lead in both Ray Tracing and "DLSS" vs "Fidelity FX Super Resolution", but I also know that when I'm fully engaged in a game, the purty pictures and 7fps go somewhere I'm not. Not worth big bucks to be sure.    

You are welcome. The really smart guys are great at helping folks out with their questions. I am no where near as knowledgeable as them, but I do read a lot and watch vids on select youtube channels and can chirp in now and then.

And I am with Cretae on the few extra fps for hundreds of dollars. Ray Tracing and DLSS are something nVidia has been up on for some time now. But to be honest, and I know it's probably just me, but again, in watching vids on games with Ray Tracing, I am not seeing a big difference. A beautiful game is just that, a beautiful game and I get immersed in it. I don't think I would notice "RT" unless I was just looking for it. DLSS is great if your machine is struggling with a game in my mind. But when you order a properly spec'd PC for what your intended use is, it will handle a game just fine. Yes, more FPS with DLSS on, BUT, again, can the eye detect the difference between a 70 fps and 120 or higher fps? NO, it can't!

So in my mind, and watch when I spec a new PC here, I have a very strong feeling I will spec a big team RED machine, at lower cost, better efficiency with power (lower thermals) and almost at the same fps. By then, maybe even better. Also, by then, AMD's Fidelity FX Super Resolution might be the preferred thing.

Not trying to sell AMD, buy I am glad to see competition heating up, that's always good for you and me, the consumer.

Edited by fwfdfireman - 23 Nov 2022 at 1:54pm