Back for the 3rd time !Post Date: 2015-08-11 |
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Sgt.Moore
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Topic: Back for the 3rd time ! Posted: 11 Aug 2015 at 12:15pm |
Hey guys, well I'm back and looking to buy my 3rd DS computer. My son just turned 14 and has really taken hold of the PC gaming world. In fact in almost 2 months he hasn't even touched his PS4... I couldn't be more proud haha. He plays BF4, Hardline, GTA etc and I want to surprise him with a new computer for a Christmas present. He REALLY likes the bolt or the smaller towers not one so massive like my HAF X. I also want to pick him up a 4k monitor if you have any recommendations. For the PC I'm looking at somewhere around 3000 and Monitor no more than 1000.
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db188
DS Veteran Joined: 29 Jul 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2115 |
Quote Reply Posted: 11 Aug 2015 at 3:27pm |
i don't think the Bolt's accommodate two graphics cards, which is what you'll need to enjoy gaming at 4k. you'll need either 2xgtx 980ti or Titan X and it will still depend on the game to optimize sli well. i've read about it numerous times, that 4k on even 1x Titan X isn't compatible with high/max game settings and pleasurable fps.
realistically a good 4k setup is going to run you into the $3k price range (without the monitor). add another (good, because why get a low budget 4k monitor?) $500+ for the monitor. for an example: http://www.amazon.com/ViewSonic-VP2780-4K-27-Inch-Monitor-3840x2160/dp/B00SHZSXVI/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1439332514&sr=1-3&keywords=4k+monitor&refinements=p_89%3AViewSonic Edited by db188 - 11 Aug 2015 at 3:38pm |
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bprat22
DS ELITE DigitalStorm East -- (Unofficially!) Joined: 08 Jun 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 20391 |
Quote Reply Posted: 11 Aug 2015 at 4:19pm |
Hi Sgt. Moore....Been awhile.
A single 980ti in a smaller case like the Bolt can play at 4k, but like was said, settings can't be max and frames fall into the 45fps range for games I've seen tested. Still good gaming, but 4k does tax any single card. Here's a build for 4k, but not a smaller case. Config # 1259046. Cost $ 3094 Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Digital Storm Apollo Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i5 6600K 3.5GHz (Codename Skylake) (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core) Motherboard: GIGABYTE Z170XP-SLI (Intel Z170 Chipset) System Memory: 16GB DDR4 2666MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series Power Supply: 850W EVGA SuperNOVA Expansion Bay: - No Thanks Optical Drive: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x) Storage Set 1: 1x SSD (250GB Samsung 850 EVO) Storage Set 2: 1x Storage (1TB Western Digital - Black Edition) Storage Set 3: - No Thanks RAID Config: - No Thanks RAID Card: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Graphics Card(s): 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB (Includes PhysX) Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio HPC Processor: - No Thanks Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex 240mm Radiator Liquid CPU Cooler (Extreme-Performance Edition) H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected Chassis Fans: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: - No Thanks Airflow Control: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Noise Reduction: - No Thanks LaserMark: - No Thanks Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock CPU 4.0GHz to 4.4GHz Boost Graphics Card(s): - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (64-Bit Edition) Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows CD) Virus Protection: FREE: McAfee AntiVirus Plus (1 Year Service Activation Card) (Not Pre-installed) ($35 Value) Office: - No Thanks Game: - No Thanks Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks Portable Gaming: - No Thanks Branded Gear: - No Thanks Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Part Replacement) Hope this helps. |
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zpconn
Newbie Joined: 02 Jul 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 29 |
Quote Reply Posted: 11 Aug 2015 at 5:43pm |
Keep in mind that the Bolt III is not the best option for maximizing the raw performance/price ratio. The build is heavily focused on aesthetics. It's a showpiece. And it carries a pretty hefty price tag premium compared to the components inside. It's as powerful as any single GPU build can be, of course, but doesn't support SLI -- and as others have said, right now, you want SLI if you want to do 4K gaming.
By the way, a single GTX 980 Ti is more than capable of maxing out every game on the market at 1440p, which still looks phenomenal. It also opens up your monitor options more, because a G-sync 1440p monitor will be noticeably less than a 4K monitor with G-sync. |
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Sgt.Moore
Groupie Joined: 24 Sep 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 184 |
Quote Reply Posted: 11 Aug 2015 at 6:02pm |
Thanks for the info Bprat, db188, and zpconn ! Yes bprat it has been a long while thats the beauty of my DS computers, you never have to come to complain or find out why something isn't working right !!! So after doing some thinking I think I'm gonna just go with a good solid PC build and forget the 4k gaming for now, he has a 4k TV so gaming in 1080p will more than make him happy ! So build me a rockin single GPU computer or SLI if its really needed.
As long as he can run the games I listed and the upcoming Battlefront etc at max he will be happy. Also whats a real good 27+ inch monitor, I hear alot of good things about BenQ my brother loves his. Again thank you guys in advance really working on getting this taken care of before I have to leave again !! PS is just staying at 1080 a good Idea or is going with the 1440 a better move ? Edited by Sgt.Moore - 11 Aug 2015 at 6:18pm |
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db188
DS Veteran Joined: 29 Jul 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2115 |
Quote Reply Posted: 11 Aug 2015 at 6:33pm |
going for a nice experience at 1440p i'd recommend a system based around a GTX 980ti (or 2), either on the new Skylake I7-6700K (for it's hyper-threading ability in multi player online situations) or 6-core X99 Haswell-E I7-5820K. 16GB of good quality, high speed ram should be sufficient. a well-reviewed/spec'd power supply (Seasonic has always been my preference and is used in high end Corsair psu products) with the appropriate wattage. i don't know enough about new mobos for the Skylake chipset, but i prefer Asus Deluxe or ROG RVE for the X99 system.
look at the Velox level 2 (with 1 or 2 vid cards) as an option for the quad core Skylake version. or the Velox level 3 (with the I7-5820k, Asus Deluxe mobo, and 1 or 2 vid cards) for Haswell-E version. both will run 300-600 over your 3k price range if going with x2 vid cards options. as for monitor, if you're not too picky about true colors/image quality then get a fast/well made TN based 1440p monitor along the lines of the BenQ gaming line you mentioned. personally, my preference for both speed and image quality would be this: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/acer_xb270hu.htm for around $800 (my rationale is that if you're going to spend $1600 on gpus then don't cheap out on a monitor). Edited by db188 - 11 Aug 2015 at 6:36pm |
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bprat22
DS ELITE DigitalStorm East -- (Unofficially!) Joined: 08 Jun 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 20391 |
Quote Reply Posted: 12 Aug 2015 at 3:36am |
As you can see, there are so many ways to go.
If you stick with a single card for 1440p then your son's desire for the Bolt is certainly doable. I like the Bolt case but not for everyone. Let us know which way you go. |
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FrankW
DS Veteran Joined: 22 Feb 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2254 |
Quote Reply Posted: 12 Aug 2015 at 4:39am |
Hi Sgt.Moore,
Here is a build that uses a Mid-Tower Corsair Obsidian 450D case. The 450D is a steel case with good cooling options. The Apollo case is full tower case. The 450D is not a Bolt size but still some what compact. I put in the DS remote control color lighting that a Kid would like. I went with the i7 6700K CPU, a single 980i GPU, The 850 Pro SSD, Blue Ray drive and a H110i GT - 280mm Radiator closed loop CPU cooler. You will be ready for a second GPU if you want to go 4K in the future. Frank Configuration Code: 1259433 Cost: $2689. Specifications: Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Digital Storm Coridium Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i7 6700K 4.0GHz (Codename Skylake) (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core) Motherboard: GIGABYTE Z170XP-SLI (Intel Z170 Chipset) System Memory: 16GB DDR4 2666MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series Power Supply: 850W EVGA SuperNOVA Expansion Bay: - No Thanks Optical Drive: Blu-Ray & DVD Writer/Reader (Burn + Play Blu-Ray & DVDs) (12x BD-R) Storage Set 1: 1x SSD (256GB Samsung 850 PRO) Storage Set 2: 1x Storage (1TB Western Digital - Black Edition) Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Graphics Card(s): 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB (Includes PhysX) Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Corsair H110i GT - 280mm Radiator Liquid CPU Cooler (Extreme Performance) Chassis Fans: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: Remote Controlled LED Lighting System (Multiple color options and lighting effects) Airflow Control: Digital Storm Thermal Management Control Board & Software Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock CPU 4.0GHz to 4.4GHz Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (64-Bit Edition) Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows CD) Virus Protection: FREE: McAfee AntiVirus Plus (1 Year Service Activation Card) (Not Pre-installed) ($35 Value) Game: - No Thanks Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Part Replacement) Edited by FrankW - 12 Aug 2015 at 4:42am |
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FrankW
DS Veteran Joined: 22 Feb 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2254 |
Quote Reply Posted: 12 Aug 2015 at 4:58am |
Hi Sgt.Moore,
Here is a Bolt 3 build that anyone would like to have. It has about the same equipment as my 450D build but this build has CPU and GPU liquid cooling with the Swiftech cooler. If you wanted to drop the GPU from the loop you could save $183. Again I included the remote controlled color lighting. Frank Configuration Code: 1259440 Cost: $3,034 Specifications: Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Pre-built Digital Storm Bolt 3 Exterior Finish: Black Brushed Aluminum Hairline Finish Side Window: Edge to Edge Premium Acrylic Processor: Intel Core i7 6700K 4.0GHz (Codename Skylake) (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core) Motherboard: GIGABYTE Z170N-Gaming 5 (Intel Z170 Chipset) (Mini-ITX) (PRE-ORDER ETA Mid-September) System Memory: 16GB DDR4 2666MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series Power Supply: 600W SilverStone SX600-G (Gold Plus Rated) (Supports up to GTX TITAN X) Optical Drive: Blu-Ray Player/DVD Writer (Play Blu-Ray and Burn DVDs) (Slim Slot Loading Edition) Storage Set 1: 1x SSD (256GB Samsung 850 PRO) Storage Set 2: 1x Storage (1TB Western Digital - Black Edition) Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Graphics Card(s): 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB (Includes PhysX) Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: Custom Digital Storm (CPU + Graphics Card) 240mm Liquid Cooling System H20 Tube Color:Signature HyperYellow Edition: Fluid + Clear Tubing (Requires Custom Liquid Cooling System) Chassis Fans: Standard Black 120mm Fans Internal Lighting: Remote Controlled Internal + Front Panel RGB LED Lighting Airflow Control: - No Thanks Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock CPU 4.0GHz to 4.4GHz Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (64-Bit Edition) Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows CD) Virus Protection: FREE: McAfee AntiVirus Plus (1 Year Service Activation Card) (Not Pre-installed) ($35 Value) Game: - No Thanks Portable Gaming: - No Thanks Branded Gear: - No Thanks Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Part Replacement) Edited by FrankW - 12 Aug 2015 at 5:01am |
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Alex
Admin Group Digital Storm Supervisor Joined: 04 Jun 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 16314 |
Quote Reply Posted: 12 Aug 2015 at 10:36am |
Thank you for being a loyal repeat customer!
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Sgt.Moore
Groupie Joined: 24 Sep 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 184 |
Quote Reply Posted: 13 Aug 2015 at 6:42pm |
Awesome thank you for the info Frank. Alex you have nothing to thank me for, you guys build quality products at insanely resonable prices, stand by your work, are completely polite and professional in every aspect weather on the forums or on the phone, and take pride in your product and build each custom as if it was your own or a work of art. It is I who needs to thank you !
Edited by Sgt.Moore - 13 Aug 2015 at 6:43pm |
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Alex
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Quote Reply Posted: 14 Aug 2015 at 11:32am |
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