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   Hi, please check out my configuration and advise me for configuration options.

Budget: Around $2500.00
I will be using the computer for online multiplayer gaming.
FPS= BF3,Metro 2033 and so on.

I would like to play the games on the highest settings possible.
With a lot of eye candy action.

I will also use the computer for web browsing.

The monitor that I am thinking of buying is dell ultrasharp U2711
2560 X 1440 resolution.

here is what I came up with the configuration please check it out and advise me of my best options.

Ticket Number: 664331

Thank you

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John Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 17 Jan 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 41	Quote Reply Topic: Balanced configuration Posted: 11 Mar 2012 at 11:37am
	Hi, please check out my configuration and advise me for configuration options. Budget: Around $2500.00 I will be using the computer for online multiplayer gaming. FPS= BF3,Metro 2033 and so on. I would like to play the games on the highest settings possible. With a lot of eye candy action. I will also use the computer for web browsing. The monitor that I am thinking of buying is dell ultrasharp U2711 2560 X 1440 resolution. here is what I came up with the configuration please check it out and advise me of my best options. Ticket Number: 664331 Thank you

crawlins Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 25 Feb 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 65	Quote Reply Posted: 11 Mar 2012 at 11:41am
	Sorry I don't have a lot of time, but I will chime in with what others will probably tell you as well... The Killer 2100 is not worth the money. I would just go with the regular High Speed ports.
	942 HAF X ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 i7 2600K OC to 4.5Ghz 16GB DS Certified 1050W Corsair Pro Silver 120GB SSD / 1TB Black Edition GTX 580

John Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 17 Jan 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 41	Quote Reply Posted: 11 Mar 2012 at 12:15pm
	or what about the 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 590 3GB. Is this better?

kenage Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 03 Mar 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 59	Quote Reply Posted: 11 Mar 2012 at 12:19pm
	Welcome to the DS forums, John =) I'd go with the Intel 120gb 520 series over the 320 series, as the former is the latest and greatest, with better access times and whatnot to boot, and it's less expensive. As crawlins says, the Killer NIC isn't worth the money. It might do a little for your latency, but the cost to benefit ratio just isn't there for most people. At 2560x1440 res, you're going to need at least dual-SLI/CF, if not tri. Dual will get you to medium-high in most games, and tri will get your high-ultra. The 7970 is a very powerful card, and might be able to squeeze into ultra settings on a few games that are optimized for the AMD architecture, but for most games out there, you'll need three cards to get the highest settings, which brings up the next problem... To really get the benefit of three video cards, you'll need to use the X79 chipset and Sandy Bridge-E CPUs, or wait for Ivy Bridge to be released. Reason being is there just isn't enough bandwidth to run three video cards on the LGA-1155 platform, since it only supports up to PCI-E 2.1. Other than that, it looks good to me.
	— Kenage MCTS, MCP, Security+, Network+ Never put off until tomorrow what you can avoid doing entirely.

John Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 17 Jan 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 41	Quote Reply Posted: 11 Mar 2012 at 12:19pm
	Here is my other configuration a little more expensive but is it better in the long run. Ticket Number: 664190

bprat22 Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List DS ELITE DigitalStorm East -- (Unofficially!) Joined: 08 Jun 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 20391	Quote Reply Posted: 11 Mar 2012 at 12:23pm
	Hi John......That is a great build. The only problem is that if you want to play on the 27" monitor at that high resolution you'd have to double the 7970 and that would bring you to $3400. Even at 1920x1080 to max out gaming would require a sli 2x 570 setup. kenage beat me to it Edited by bprat22 - 11 Mar 2012 at 12:24pm

John Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 17 Jan 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 41	Quote Reply Posted: 11 Mar 2012 at 12:24pm
	thank you for the replies I need as much advice as possible. I am new.

bprat22 Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List DS ELITE DigitalStorm East -- (Unofficially!) Joined: 08 Jun 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 20391	Quote Reply Posted: 11 Mar 2012 at 12:32pm
	That second build would do it. To save $300 change cpu to i7-3820 a four core cpu. Unless you do video rendering, etc that is all you need for gaming. You also don't need 16GB ram for gaming. 8 GB is all gaming can use. Even better, just add the second 7970 to your first build, the X79 platform is not needed for gaming. . Another option is to look at the ODE level 4 , DS's best bang for the buck. Tough to beat. Edited by bprat22 - 11 Mar 2012 at 12:35pm

bprat22 Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List DS ELITE DigitalStorm East -- (Unofficially!) Joined: 08 Jun 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 20391	Quote Reply Posted: 11 Mar 2012 at 12:41pm
	John.....adding the second 7970 to your first build would put you at $3400 or so. You could do that or go ODE 4 for the same performance and get the latest X79 platform, even though right now you really don't need it. Either way you have a great rig for your needs. Tough decisions I know. Have I totally confused you yet?? Edited by bprat22 - 11 Mar 2012 at 12:50pm

John Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 17 Jan 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 41	Quote Reply Posted: 11 Mar 2012 at 12:56pm
	here is my revised configuration Ticket Number: 664350 Total Price with Instant Savings: $3,425.00 Specifications: Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.40GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Quad Core) Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 Deluxe (Intel P67 Chipset) (New & Improved B3 Revision Without SATA 3G Issue) <b></b> System Memory: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested) Power Supply: 1050W Corsair Pro Silver 1050HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) <b></b> Expansion Bay: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (180GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: 520 Series) <b></b> Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (Model: Black Edition) <b></b> Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 3GB Classified Ultra (EVGA 03G-P3-1595-BR) <b></b> Add-on Card: - No Thanks Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 Extreme Performance <b></b> H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Red) <b></b> Enhancements: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Noise Reduction: - No Thanks LaserMark: - No Thanks Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires Pro or Deluxe Series Motherboard) <b></b> Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD) Virus Protection: - No Thanks Office: - No Thanks Game: - No Thanks Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks External Storage: - No Thanks Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty

FrankW Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List DS Veteran Joined: 22 Feb 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2254	Quote Reply Posted: 11 Mar 2012 at 1:04pm
	Hi John, You have some good suggestions and your builds are not bad. It seems you have pretty well shot your budget. I see a conflict in what you are trying to do. The X79 is not for someone on a budget. If you purchase a Dell 27" monitor with 2550 resolution and want to play any game at the highest settings you need tri-SLI. That is three GPUs. That means you need a bigger power supply and better cooling. As much as I like the D14 it is not the best choice for the 6-core CPUs. You are building a gaming machine so you don't need a 6-Core CPU. So what do we do. Do you play your games with some things turn down a bit and go with two GPUs. Or do you buy a 24" Dell that has a 1920 x 1080 resolution. That would drop the cost of your computer and you can play at high settings. The 24" Dell has the same great picture but not as much real estate. What do you think sounds like how you would like to go. If you are dead set on the 27" Dell then we need to build you a machine on the X27 platform but not necessarily with a 6-core CPU. You can get two GPUs and see how it goes. If you need more horespower then you can add the third GPU. If you will drop down to the 24" Dell then we can suggest a great two GPU computer. Frank

FrankW Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List DS Veteran Joined: 22 Feb 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2254	Quote Reply Posted: 11 Mar 2012 at 1:14pm
	John, I missed bprat22 last comment. He is right that with your fist build, add a second GPU, drop the Killer 2100 and you have a killer system for a 1920 x 1080 monitor. Frank

John Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 17 Jan 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 41	Quote Reply Posted: 11 Mar 2012 at 1:16pm
	Oh that is something to think about. I currently have a 1680 x 1050 26". it is a samsung syncmaster 226cw. I could comprimise and build a gaming computer around my current resolution. BF3 settings set at highest. What kind of build could you suggest say around $1500.00 to $2000.00?

bprat22 Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List DS ELITE DigitalStorm East -- (Unofficially!) Joined: 08 Jun 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 20391	Quote Reply Posted: 11 Mar 2012 at 1:25pm
	Here's a great build for gaming at 1920x1050. A little over $2000, but this guves yoy some growing room. Config. # 664361 Cost $ 2336 Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.40GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Quad Core) Motherboard: ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 (Intel Z68 Chipset) (Features Intel Quick Sync Technology) System Memory: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested) Power Supply: 1050W Corsair Pro Silver 1050HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) Expansion Bay: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (500GB Seagate Barracuda (7200 RPM) (16MB Cache) Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1.2GB (Includes PhysX Tech) (EVGA 012-P3-1571-BR) Add-on Card: - No Thanks Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 Extreme Performance H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: - No Thanks Enhancements: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Noise Reduction: - No Thanks LaserMark: - No Thanks Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires Pro or Deluxe Series Motherboard) Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD) Virus Protection: - No Thanks Office: - No Thanks Game: - No Thanks Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks External Storage: - No Thanks Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Large) Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty It doesn't have SSD. You'd have to add or go ODE 3. But this config has great parts.

John Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 17 Jan 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 41	Quote Reply Posted: 11 Mar 2012 at 2:25pm
	thank you bprat22,frankw,kenage,crawlins. I like the configuration but I may wait until ivy-bridge cpu and nvidia kepler gpus arrive and at that point I will be ready to buy my new dream gaming computer. Also by then I will buying a 27" 1920 X 1080p ips monitor. Can you recommend any good gaming 27" 1920 x 1080p ips monitors.

John Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 17 Jan 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 41	Quote Reply Posted: 11 Mar 2012 at 2:27pm
	Also one more thing, will the ODE level 3 computer be revised when the new ivy-bridge cpu and kepler gpus arrive?

bprat22 Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List DS ELITE DigitalStorm East -- (Unofficially!) Joined: 08 Jun 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 20391	Quote Reply Posted: 11 Mar 2012 at 2:38pm
	Hi John.....waiting for the new hardware is a good move. Unless someone needs a Pc because of dead Pc, etc. then waiting is the way to go. I'll let others comment on a good 1920x 1200 27" . I never used. Not sure if ODE's will be updated but I would assume so. The ODE 4 already has newest 7970, so not sure there. With ODE ya never know.

kenage Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 03 Mar 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 59	Quote Reply Posted: 11 Mar 2012 at 6:28pm
	I imagine the ODEs will be updated with the new Ivy Bridge chips when they ship. From what I understand, they will be priced about the same as the current Sandy Bridge chips, so there should be little price fluctuation. As for the Kepler GPUs... they are going to be more expensive than the South Island GPUs (that's the 7xxx family), but you'll get a bit more bang for your buck. I haven't seen any official reviews of the flagship GTX 680, but supposedly the 660Ti or the 670 can about match the performance of two 580s with a third 580 dedicated to PhysX (I don't know the specifics surrounding the test, but I imagine this was not on an LGA-2011/1366 board, so given the bandwidth limitations this makes sense). I have read a few reviews about some features coming in the Kepler series, and it's got me excited, but how well it performs vs the South Islands series remains to be seen. For 27" monitors at 1920x1200, that's a little difficult. 1920x1080 is more prevalent, given the aspect ratio, so the field is a little limited. I keep seeing Hannspree HANNS.G HZ281HPB come up in searching for reviews as an extremely good bargain. It can be found on Newegg here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254052 I can't speak to the quality of it, but like I said, I keep seeing the name come up.
	— Kenage MCTS, MCP, Security+, Network+ Never put off until tomorrow what you can avoid doing entirely.

FrankW Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List DS Veteran Joined: 22 Feb 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2254	Quote Reply Posted: 12 Mar 2012 at 10:46am
	Hi John, You need to think about your monitor selection. The best choice is an IPS monitor that will give you the best picture and color rendition. If you want a 27" IPS monitor the resolution of the new monitors is 2550 x 1440 not 1920 x 1080/1200. That requires a much more powerful computer. The Dell 27" IPS runs $800 plus dollars. Not a budget monitor for sure. I think the majority of DS owners who has an IPS monitor would not want to get a bigger monitor that was not IPS. The IPS monitor just has a much better picture. So your first decision is do you want an IPS or a TN monitor. The TN is cheaper and you can get a larger monitor for the money. The IPS gives you better color and picture but cost more than a TN. Frank

John Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 17 Jan 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 41	Quote Reply Posted: 13 Mar 2012 at 2:18pm
	Thank you everyone for your responses to my future dream machine, that I will plan to build by late summer. I am saving my money and by then I will have more to spend. I have been checking out various motherboards and one that caught my attention was X79 platform Asus sabertooth .. I like the way it is built and it looks nice. Highend parts that will last and durable. Please provide some opinions and recommendations. I may buy a higher resolution monitor. More than 1920 X 1080

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