BEST TV USED AS MONITER

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If its just for gaming on the PC, I would say go with a 30" Dell the 07 model. You should be able to find it for $700 or so on their refurbished site.

I have the Samsung 305T 30" monitor on my desk and I absolutely love it. The colors are nearly perfect right out of the box. No adjustment needed. I also have a 24" Samsung and a 22" Samsung on another desk hooked to a quad core and 8800gtx. Those are decent, too. Then there is the 20" ViewSonic LCD. I hate that one and put it on the oldest crap computers sitting across the room from me.

I also have a 52" Sony LCD on the wall in the living room. I love that, too. If I had it to do over again, I might have gone for the Samsung 52" instead, though. I just love their high contrast and color accuracy. I would think that text would look better on the Samsung, because of the contrast.

I dont get it why does a console game system play so much better than a PC that is way more powerful on a big screen. I have both a PS3 and an xbox 360 and a $10000 PC so I guess I am better off just using my consoles atleast for a couple more years. Still doesnt make sense to me since the xbox 360 is 4 years old and my PC is new.

Paraguy1

I have some good news for you. The tv you are looking for is for sale at bestbuy as of yesterday!!! The Samsung UN46/55B6000 and UN46/55B7100 LED HDTV's are the best tv's out for hooking a pc to. You do not have to worry about ghosting, clouding, motionblur and the picture quality is well I can't think of a word to do it justice!!! My BestBuy guy who I buy all of my electronics from called me last night to let me know they arrived after he spent 5 hours calabrating and testing it with all the componants anyone would use with this tv. He said his pc work better then it did on anyother HDTV He has ever set up in the store and he bought two for himself the second he finished. I will be going there today to check it out for myself and upgrade to the UN55B7100. He spoke to the store manager, showed him I am a slivermember and spend a lot of money there and he agreed sence my 850 is 4 months old I could upgrade at no extra cost. But I will lose my warrenty plus bring in the 850. Even after the $550 I lose for the warrenty I'm still about $200 under the retail price. I will hook up my DS rigg and post my expirance with the tv for you. Also you can find it on the net for as much as $700 off if you are interested in buying.

OH MAN IT'S HORRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!

I was so excited when I got there and so disappointed when I left!!! I have to wait a whole week before II get it!!!!!!!!!! Just imagine if you sat down to play HALO 2 the day it can e out heard the monks pressed start and get told sorry but you cant play it for 1 week. haha sucker

Yes the 9 50 is their top/high end HDTV if you have $5000 to spend plus $300 for pro calabration, $700 for extended warrenty plus tax. You're talking $6500 plus cables. I am using a LN52A850 typing this which is little more then an inch thick and the picture is no better then a LED UN series which I might add has better black levels. Also the 850 has a vary high rate of clouding issues cause of it not being a backlit led and how then it is.

Originally posted by XpubuX get a 120hzt tv then you can get the nvidia 3d glasses and be rockin in 3-d

Thats not entirely accurate. Not all 120Hz HDTV's are compatible with the glasses. Only the 3-D ready tv's will work and most LCD tv's were not made with 3-D in mind

One note about big screen LCD's or really ANY TV in the stores. Never judge the picture quality based on the way it looks in the store. They don't calibrate display models. Employees screw with the controls. Customers screw with the controls. Even the lighting in stores is bad for judging picture quality. Plus - the sales people intentionally make the picture look bad on the units they make the least money on. In fact, if you view the same sets at the store over a long period of time, you will notice the picture quality on a given set get better some weeks and worse other weeks. The quality you see depends mostly on whether it is on sale or whether there are sales incentives for the salespeople to sell it.

Your best bet is to view a calibrated TV at a friend's house, if possible. If you can't do that, then get the remote from the sales people and reset the TV to factory defaults first. Insist on it. If they say no, then buy it somewhere else. After you reset it, make slight adjustments to the factory image yourself until the picture looks as good as it can look to your eyes. Because you are the one who will be watching it. Then compare those optimal images on each set.

Regarding game graphics on the PC versus consoles, the reason games on consoles often look better than they do on PCs has nothing to do with the hardware. The best hardware on the PC would easily smoke any of the consoles, hands down. The problem is that PC game programmers (I was one for nearly a decade...) are shackled by marketing department restrictions on what hardware they can support. The programmers aren't allowed to write code for the best available hardware. They are required to write the code so that it works on the worst available hardware. Then, they try to hack the code so that IF you happen to have better hardware, you get a little better experience. So it is written for a low quality target with little boosts added for folks with nice hardware.

Console games don't have this odd restriction. All of the rendering hardware on every PS3 console is exactly the same, so you get to write your code for the best possible case all the time. You can focus on getting the most out of a fixed hardware target rather than being forced to make it run on every crappy machine prior to a PS3. There simply aren't any crappy versions to worry about

Probably the best analogy is to think about is what a game would look like if it had to run on the PS1 but it could also run on the PS3 if somebody had that. The limitations of the PS1 would make the game look crappy on your PS3 compared to PS3-only games.

PC games have those kind of restrictions placed on them, because marketing departments want to sell as many copies as possible. It costs many millions to develop a game, so companies want to sell as many copies as possible to try to make that money back. As a result, they force programmers to write the game so it will run on nearly every computer out there, or as many as humanly possible. Unfortunately, there are an awful lot of crappy systems still being used out there. So, the PC version of a game is basically crippled so it will work on crappy older PC's, while the PS3 version gets to use every bell and whistle.

I'm seriously thinking of getting a Samsung 22" or 24" PC monitors that has an HDTV tuner inside. I'd like to "kill 2 birds with one stone" if possible. What's your thought on this? Except for dvr capabilities, tv cards aren't really good.



Sorry about that paraguy, even though DS did fix you up pretty well. I hope it works out well for you but I'm not thrilled with SLI technology.




Edited by pwcorgi - 22 Mar 2009 at 11:29pm

Originally posted by Daygn I have to disagree with you on that. The reason COD:WaW looked better on the PS3 when my buddy and I compared the two versions is my HDTV!!! When I hooked my pc to my LN52A850 it blew the PS3 copy away!!!!!! Also consoles dont evev come close to using " all the bells and whistles" for there version. The 360 can only use AAx2 and the ps3 has the worst jaggies period ! The PS2 also had this same prob. Playing the pc copy using my HDTV WITH AFx16,AAX16q showed what it looks like when the bells and whistles are maxed ou out!! IT is simple games will always look better using an HDTV compaired to using a pc Monitor !!!!!!!!

First post, you said the PS3 looked better. Now you say the PC looked better. The difference? You finally compared apples to apples by hooking both of them to a big monitor, right? Big monitors make games more fun to play. I totally agree with you on that. Even when the resolution, detail levels, and everything else is identical, the fact that the screen is much bigger makes it more immersive. The tiny details you can't see on a smaller monitor are big enough to actually see when it is on a big monitor.

But that actually wasn't what I was explaining to you in my post. I was explaining why quite often the PS3 seems to have better graphics than a much better PC, when running on the SAME monitor.

Good PC hardware is absolutely superior to the PS3 hardware. Having programmed the equipment, I can tell you that for sure. Despite that fact, a LOT of games on the PS3 still look better - when hooked to exactly the same screen. This is just reality. Lucky for you, CoD:WaW was able to use enough of your awesome PC horesepower to beat out the PS3 in display quality on the same monitor. This isn't always the case, and in my last post I was explaining WHY this isn't always the case.

Those times when the PS3 display quality looks better than an awesome PC running on the same monitor, it is completely because the programmers were forced to support old PC hardware for marketing reasons. I lived in that world for nearly a decade, so I know, quite personally the limitations which were placed upon us by people who wanted to sell more copies to the masses rather than provide the best experience for those with the best PC hardware.

If the programmers were allowed to do what they really wanted to do, the PS3 would never come close to the PC in visual quality (on the same monitor). But then, everyone would constantly have to buy the best PC's available just to run their games. Since very few can afford that luxury, I guess it's good (in a way) that the marketing types put severe limitations on the programmers. It's quite frustrating if you happen to BE one of those programmers, though. The stress of 60-70 hour weeks plus fighting with a beaurocracy of bean counters and managers (who aren't gamers) burns many programmers out, myself included.

I remember one $2.8 million game I worked on where we kept telling the managers through the entire project that it wasn't any fun and that nobody would buy it. We were told programmers know nothing about marketing and we should trust that they know what they are doing because their marketing focus groups liked it. It got released and was the most dismal failure I've ever heard of. It sold like 12,000 copies total. Their focus groups were composed of people who were rabid MTV viewers and admitted they didn't even play games. *sigh*

Originally posted by pwcorgi I'm seriously thinking of getting a Samsung 22" or 24" PC monitors that has an HDTV tuner inside. I'd like to "kill 2 birds with one stone" if possible. What's your thought on this? Except for dvr capabilities, tv cards aren't really good. Sorry about that paraguy, even though DS did fix you up pretty well. I hope it works out well for you but I'm not thrilled with SLI technology.

Thanks, DS has great customer service but it sucks them having my PC more than me these past 7 months. I have a samsung 245T 24" monitor and I believe it to be the best 24" made but it is also the most expensive. I wish now I went with the samsung 305T because I play my console games on a sony bravia 46" HDTV and its hard to go back to a 24" monitor when on my PC

in some games 3 x 285 is like 5fps faster then 2 x 295, in some games 295 is faster and in some games they are even.