Bolt 2, future proof with upcoming hardware.Post Date: 2014-06-03 |
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Corvosin
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Topic: Bolt 2, future proof with upcoming hardware. Posted: 03 Jun 2014 at 12:54pm |
Budget:
$3,500 Expectations: Nimble and quiet gaming pc. Usage: Video editing, Heavy gaming (Max settings 1440p) and 3D Modeling. Special Needs: Quiet and powerful. Specifications: I know you're supposed to post your specs here. I am actually waiting for a number of parts. All are expected by early August. I know I want a Bolt 2. It's fast and silent. Basically I will be maxing out the configuration. SSD/HDD hybrid, 700W PSU, 240mm radiator, internal lighting and so on. I will also be special ordering EVGA's SC ACX 780 Ti for my build. As some of you may know or soon will, Asus and Intel have some impressive hardware on the way. Intel's i7 4790K (Expected in June or early July). Asus's Maximus VII (Z97) Impact Motherboard, expected in August. I will also be picking up Asus's ROG Swift PG278Q gaming monitor. All I have to do is wait, I'm sure you all know how hard that is. Why make this config discussion? So everyone knows what's about to come. Why not wait a little while and actually future proof your Bolt 2? Sadly Nvidia's GTX 800 series was delayed into 2015. So what do you all think? |
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bprat22
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Quote Reply Posted: 03 Jun 2014 at 2:17pm |
Thanks for the thoughts. Not a bad idea. You have to wait for the 700watt psu anyways, so get the latest cpu and mobo. I don't think the newer cpu's are much faster but the attraction is the new motherboards. The newer chips will probably allow either higher overclock or lower temps but for most, not a big deal. For your apps, it might make a difference.
There is always new just over the horizon, but in your case, the wait is a great idea. |
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Theokritos
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Quote Reply Posted: 03 Jun 2014 at 7:48pm |
Have you examined the hardware specifications and notes for your video editing and 3D Modeling software? Some can be very exacting and specific with cautions that the software may not perform well (or at all) on non-certified hardware and drivers. ( I am looking at you -- Autodesk Maya.) |
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Velox
Cool and Quiet AMD Ryzen 9 7900X 32GB DDR5 5200MHz Radeon RX 7900 XTX |
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Corvosin
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Quote Reply Posted: 04 Jun 2014 at 1:33pm |
@Theokritos From what I've read my specs are fine. Care to explain what might not work?
@bprat2 About the CPU, it will be better than the i7 4770K. At 4.0Ghz stock, still no news on the OC clocks though. Some are saying it'll get to 5Ghz with liquid cooling. I know that will make a difference in CPU intensive programs and games. |
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Theokritos
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Quote Reply Posted: 04 Jun 2014 at 4:33pm |
Since I don't know the name and version of the software that you are running or going to run, I can not answer specifically.
I recently did research on several software apps for graphics and automation in the thread, Switching from Mac to PC... No, to DS!!!. The post with the reference links has the most detail. If you are not using any of those five packages and want your apps double checked, then please post their name and version here. I will see what I can find. (( Probably the very same thing that you have already found but I don't mind taking a second look if that would help.)) |
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Velox
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Corvosin
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Quote Reply Posted: 04 Jun 2014 at 5:37pm |
I will be using Maya. I'm not rendering anything crazy. I think I'm in the clear.
Edit: Yep. My specs are more than enough. Edited by Corvosin - 04 Jun 2014 at 5:53pm |
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Theokritos
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Quote Reply Posted: 04 Jun 2014 at 9:26pm |
If you're happy, then go for it. You've got one nice gaming computer configured. Please keep us posted.
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Velox
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Corvosin
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Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jun 2014 at 2:21pm |
It really is a patience challenge. I will be benchmarking games with it as well. Seems like the 780 Ti, VII Impact and 4790K will be a popular build.
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Corvosin
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Quote Reply Posted: 11 Jun 2014 at 8:49pm |
I recently heard of EVGA's Z97 Stingier.
http://thepcenthusiast.com/evga-z97-stinger-core3d-features-specifications-price/ Edited by Corvosin - 11 Jun 2014 at 8:59pm |
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Nav
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Quote Reply Posted: 11 Jun 2014 at 11:41pm |
You can't really go wrong with either board. The ASUS board will feature more software features though. |
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Corvosin
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Quote Reply Posted: 12 Jun 2014 at 11:15pm |
Such as? Just curious. I'm trying to get this rig asap. I'll be waiting for Asus's ROG PG278Q monitor, ETA is late July.
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danjw1
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2014 at 8:07am |
Asus offers a firmware based SSD secure erase feature. They offer Sonic Radar (shows you where the sounds are coming from in games). Their software will automatically tune the fans for optimal cooling vs noise. It also offers automatic overclocking both in the BIOS and in the OS. There are more, but those are the ones off the top of my head. Also, as a significantly larger company than EVGA, I expect they are capable of more testing.
The down side is that the M7I availability is in Q3. Which means that if you want to wait for it, the wait could be until September 30th. Also, soft launch dates like that make me question how hard they are. |
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Corvosin
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Quote Reply Posted: 15 Jun 2014 at 5:58pm |
+danjw1 Thanks, I figured that out after a bit of research. I think Asus's MB is the better choice. I'd like to get a Bolt 2 by early-mid August. I'm currently stuck with a terrible Acer laptop, my gaming laptop committed suicide. The faster the better, hopefully the VII Impact isn't postponed.
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Corvosin
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Quote Reply Posted: 21 Jul 2014 at 10:59am |
Asus's VII Impact is close to its release. I only have one concern that I need to be sure about. I'm planning on special ordering EVGA's ACX 780 Ti. I've been told that it may cause minor thermal problems. DS told me it dumps all of its heat into the case, others say it should be fine. From what I've seen the GPU fit well with the case. Intake vents right over the ACX cooler and apparently most of its heat leaves through the back of the card and case. Is this true? I'm just concerned about lingering heat in the machine. I'd like to keep this rig as quiet and cool as possible. Will the ACX edition benefit or harm the rig? any insight on this would be appreciated.
Edited by Corvosin - 21 Jul 2014 at 11:05am |
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bprat22
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Quote Reply Posted: 21 Jul 2014 at 11:16am |
I'm pretty sure I remember Alex mentioning that the ACX exits the heat out the side of the card that faces up in the Bolt. In a standard case, that side faces into the case, hence heat into the case. The top of the Bolt is well vented and the heat has a place to go.
Not 100%, the memory can play tricks. |
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Quote Reply Posted: 21 Jul 2014 at 11:25am |
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bpratt22 you are correct! The way we have the GPU mounted in the Bolt II makes the EVGA ACX cooler exhaust out of the top. Edited by Nav - 21 Jul 2014 at 11:25am |
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bprat22
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Quote Reply Posted: 21 Jul 2014 at 2:09pm |
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danjw1
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Quote Reply Posted: 21 Jul 2014 at 2:36pm |
I think what he said is that it faces a vent, so will be blown out of the case. If it is lying on its side (on the included feet), it would be up, if it was standing up, it would be out the right side of the case, I believe. In the bolt, the graphics card isn't mounted directly to the motherboard, but uses a cable to connect it to the motherboard. |
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Corvosin
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Quote Reply Posted: 22 Jul 2014 at 12:33pm |
Thanks, I knew I heard it here before. Just reassuring myself, would hate to make a build mistake. My overall goal for this rig is quiet 1440p gaming. The ACX version will help a bit for those needs. A small fps bump (maybe 5-10) and it will keep it a bit cooler. Just waiting for Asus's VII Impact motherboard and their ROG Swift PG278Q G-Sync monitor.
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danjw1
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Quote Reply Posted: 24 Jul 2014 at 7:56am |
I just read that the monitor should be out in North America in August: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8290/asus-rog-swift-pg278q-monitor-released That article also includes the specs. |
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Corvosin
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Quote Reply Posted: 25 Jul 2014 at 2:45pm |
Yep, I've been watching that for months. They were supposed to release it this month but it was postponed.
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squigy7
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Quote Reply Posted: 26 Jul 2014 at 6:52pm |
I couldn't wait and ordered my Bolt ll this week.
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Quote Reply Posted: 26 Jul 2014 at 10:27pm |
Welcome to the family! |
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Clay
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Quote Reply Posted: 01 Aug 2014 at 4:23pm |
Congrats!!
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Corvosin
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Quote Reply Posted: 19 Aug 2014 at 4:18pm |
Almost ready! Just waiting for DS to carry the VII Impact motherboard. I will also be getting the new liquid cooling system. I only have one question at the moment. About the warranty upgrade bonus. It says a 4 year limited warranty upgrade. Does that mean it's the 2 year part replacement plan?
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bprat22
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Quote Reply Posted: 19 Aug 2014 at 4:30pm |
Correct.
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Corvosin
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Quote Reply Posted: 19 Aug 2014 at 5:08pm |
Awesome! It will help a lot with my over budget. Living in Canada has it's disadvantages. Over $700 in exchange fees etc. That free warranty upgrade made my day. [8(]
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Corvosin
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Quote Reply Posted: 22 Aug 2014 at 5:05pm |
My purchase is near. Asus's ROG VII Impact motherboard is close at hand. I will be special ordering a EVGA ACX GTX 780 Ti. Is there a number to call for special orders and details?
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danjw1
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Quote Reply Posted: 23 Aug 2014 at 6:01am |
The number (1-866-817-8676) is at the bottom of the page, just scroll down. There is also a place for notes on the bottom of the Configurator page. DS seems to feel that they are getting better GPU overclocks from other vendors with the 780 Tis. So, it might be worth talking to them about the choice. If you are considering that you want the Step Up program, then stick with EVGA. |
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Corvosin
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Quote Reply Posted: 23 Aug 2014 at 12:43pm |
Thanks. Unfortunately Asus's DCUII variant cannot fit in the Bolt 2. Any other suggestions? From what I hear EVGA HAS very good customer service and the card overclocks quite well. Gigabyte's varient does overclock a bit better but overall it's a few frame difference. I will definitely ask DS about it though.
Edited by Corvosin - 23 Aug 2014 at 1:20pm |
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Quote Reply Posted: 23 Aug 2014 at 5:27pm |
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Our new run of Bolt II will be able to fit the DCUII cards. Not sure when they are coming though exactly. |
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Corvosin
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Quote Reply Posted: 24 Aug 2014 at 2:33am |
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danjw1
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Quote Reply Posted: 24 Aug 2014 at 9:24am |
Any chance these will be able to take the EVGA Classified cards as well? |
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Corvosin
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Quote Reply Posted: 24 Aug 2014 at 11:06am |
Oh yes! Now I'm getting excited. Since you're calling it the new run of the Bolt II, I assume it's only a slight change. Perhaps a small remodel of use of space in order to fit larger cards etc.?
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Clay
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Quote Reply Posted: 24 Aug 2014 at 1:17pm |
Wheres your computer specs at again? Did I Miss it?
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