Booting time getting slower?

Hi guys,

So I've purchased a DSO rig roughly 9 months ago and i am still loving it. I believe when i first load windows up it took roughly 30 secs from start to end. That was great. Now it seems it's getting slightly slower and slower. It happened to my other non DSO computers before in my previous years. I attribute the slowness to me loading programs into my computer...

But now that i think about it. It shouldn't really put a DSO rig to that much stress to cause it to have a 1 minute + load time. I read somewhere it has to do with a "load priority" thing? Can someone tell me what I need to do?

So far I use the comp mainly for gaming and random ms word usage/surf the web.

So far I have the following games installed at this time

1. wc3 + frozen throne
2. Crysis 2
3. Starcraft 2
4. Bully (Scholarship edition)  via steam
5. assassin creed 2 via steam
6. prince of persia sands of time via steam
7. devil may cry via steam
8. Counterstrike via steam
9. Hitman blood money via steam
10. Maybe 1-2 more games via steam

I also have Webroot installed and my router's "network magic" or something
What i have noticed is that the computer will load, i see the deskstop, but after it finish loading i have to wait like 15-20 secs or so for the steam/webroot/network magic to show up....

Sure it's a lot of games but I have 1 TB harddrive, i7 930 OCed, 6 gb ram, 1000w corsair powersupply, 1x GTX 470 (or 460, i forgot), so I don't know what's going on.

Maybe it's the loading of steam + webroot + some other prog @ start up cause it to be slow? I remember back in high school days someone told me I can go to RUN - > msconfig to do something to disable some start up. Should i do that? Is that the main reason?

Also I defrag my comp from time to time as well....so how can i get my computer back to 30 secs (or even lower?)

Or do i need to factory system restore.....i don't know if i can locate the disc ATM....

any help is appreciated! thx@!


Edited by darbebo - 19 Apr 2011 at 5:33pm

CCleaner, defrag (I personally use MSContig with the PowerDefragmenter.exe GUI instead of the built-in one. Works wonders), and regardless, many recommend reinstalling Windows anyways annually because Windows will slow down no matter what.

So you have ccleaner, please go to tools>startup> here give me a screenshot of this window, make sure I can see everything in the list.

msconfig is meant for testing, never use it for permanent stuff.

Edited by DST4ME - 19 Apr 2011 at 5:48pm

unfortunately the best thing to do is periodically reinstall windows. its a pain but a nice performance boost every now and then.

yes there is. there are programs for everything but to clear everything thats slowing your computer down you would need 50+ programs and it would be quicker to install windows again. you'd have to delete bats that attach to windows handlers, fix the registery ect.. i mean its doable but a pain in the ass and it would take forever to find the good working programs that worked well.

what does that mean?  40g back up?

also, did I forget, but does DSO gives us system restore disc like old times ? or were we supposed to make it?

wait, did I say MSConfig? meant MS Contig


Edited by ablahblah - 19 Apr 2011 at 7:31pm

Between all your toolbars and the hidden icons on desktop.
I'm guessing you do a lot of downloading. Would love to see
Your running processes.

And have of those start up items I would turn off.
No need for them

Googleupdate
Daemon
Sun java (can be exploited)
both adobes
Divxupdate ( can be exploited )

Disable them

Wow I bet you have all kinds I'd hidden crap in your registry and system.

oh also do the registery in ccleaner. its a really nice feature.

its not the componants its the issue of how windows just works. over time it gets slower and slower. And with a ds computer it takes longer, a normal medium-low end computer takes about a month to get slow...
Also as a note I think developers of general applications really need to fix their code for faster computers. i mean steam occasionally freezes up while using 2% cpu, i mean i'd rather it go up to even 20% or so instead of freeze up but thats how it is.

How to take a snapshot of running processes?  
me = noob...

Start > Search for Snipping Tool

Your running process have nothing to do with your startup apps/startup time, but if you want to see them:

start>type: taskmgr.exe and hit enter then go to processes tab.

now as for your startup items

why are all of these set to start with windows, why can't they just start when you go to use them?:

steam
aim
google updater
daemon tools
java
quicktime
adobe
divx
realsched

disable all of those and see how fast your pc starts now.

what in the name of god are you using for av?

Folks don't use registry cleaners unless your registry is giving your trouble, it could cause problems down the road.

@maxyme, windows behavior itself does not slow down over time at all, what happens is that people allow just about everything to start with windows, then after a few apps, it starts to make a noticeable difference in boot time and other things, the less ram you have, the faster you notice it, these apps start with windows and slow down the boot time, and then run in the background eating up your ram and making windows feel as if it is moving slower, which its not, your ram is getting usedup so you can do less stuff.

some cases the pc that is getting slow over time and perhaps one has too many stuff set to start with windows, they don't need to start with windows.

if your pc seems like its getting slow, then its time for a ram upgrade, or time to clean up startup apps/services, most times it just simply cleaning up your startup apps, as we are doing here, using 1 app, if a fresh install fixed the speed issue then the problem is not the pc or windows, the problem is that the user has too many apps to start with windows, which again no reason to reinstall windows, just disable all those unnecessary apps to not start with windows. This can be easily proven, by going to:

msconfig and

1. in services tab:

a. check "hide all microsoft services"

b. then hit "disable all"

2. in startup tab, hit "disable all"

3. reboot, now see how fast your pc boots.

this shows that its not install of windows but the apps set to start with it.

I have pcs here I own for over 3 years and I have never fresh installed them, I would put their speed and performance up against a fresh install any day you like, it will perform the same or faster then a fresh install.

I have an xp I have used for 8 years now, I do software testing on it, so at any given time it has over 50 apps installed on it, with a few of them running in the background (getting tested), this 8 year old install is no slower then a fresh install of xp, and I use one app to keep the startup apps and etc clean.

once we clean up the OPs startup list, you will see his speed will return again.

Edited by DST4ME - 20 Apr 2011 at 7:18am

ok UPDATE!

I rebooted, and went to tsk mgr, the lag is no longer there! SO relieved...

anyways here it is .
Also to answer your question, it says 47 processes running.

In addition, I timed my restart, it was roughly 2 min and 45 secs. I count it as "finish" booting up is when i click firefox, it loads and i'm able to go to a website.
(hopefuly you know what i mean, sometimes you think windows loaded, but you click a program, and it takes like 2 mins to load and THEN it is considered fully booted lol)

so should i uninstall webroot and buy eset smart secuirty? is there a good place to buy? is there multiple version of it? like a prem verison or a rookie version?

Ok 47 processes with win7 64 is good.

what do you use for intuit?

did you disable realsched.exe? did you go by my list or fresh's? if you didn't go by my list go back and disable all the ones I said also.

also don't judge boot time by starting another app, now that app's start time is added also.

plus when you say 47 processes you mean with firefox and etc right? cause right now 2 of those processes are ff's.

yes drop weebroot av and go with eset smart security:

eset smart security, it has a 30 day trial, you can try it for free for 30days and then purchase it if you like.

either way after you get it make it like this:

here

from webroot you just want spysweeper.

Edited by DST4ME - 20 Apr 2011 at 3:03am

He has the 1TB black caviar, I doubt that he has even a third of it filled up, so if he is fragmented, he can just defrag, from a personal point of view, I have never noticed a big difference from a 70% fragmented drive and that same drive after it was defraged.

I'm not saying in any way that the defrag makes no difference, I'm just saying I have never noticed a big enough difference, but I always defrag my hdds (not ssds, never defrag ssds.) every 3 to 6 month depending.

A ssd is always a great idea

I think he is going to upgrade to a ssd in a few month, not sure.

Edited by DST4ME - 20 Apr 2011 at 3:50am

the Intuit is related because its update service is set to start with windows and its running in the background of your pc, go back and look your processes.

please uninstall the turbo tax if you are done with it, or as soon as you are.

I recommend eset smart security for av and firewall

spysweeper or malwarebytes for anti spyware

eset and ss or mb will not have conflicts, keep in mind only the paid versions will give you realtime protection.

No the msconfig was for people that have pcs that startup up slow and think their pc is slow, they can msconfig and do what I said and see how fast their pc will boot and act, its a test to show that its not windows slowing things down but the apps users set to run with windows, in short you dont need to do it.

after having disabled all of those, is the pc back to its good speed?

if you don't have windows cd and its not on the HDD, then you need one if you ever want to repair or fresh install.

DS will help you with upgrades but for example lets say you want to upgrade gpu next year to a future card, we'll call it the 680 gtx.

now lets say 680 gtx cost $400, you can go to the store and pay that, bring the card in, and install it yourself, I know its a scary thought, but it is very easy to install for someone who has never done it, and once you do it, you will be like for ever thinking it was scary, cause you will see how simple everything is, as humans we have a bad habit of making thing we are not familiar, a dooms day scenario, I remember when I was young, upgrading my ram for the very first time, I was nervous, I was sure I would short circuit or mess something up, but then I look at the manual, and was like wait a minute, I push down 4 little nubs, the old ram pops up, I look at how its faced, I take it out, then put the new ram sticks back in making sure I have them faced the same way as the old ram, then I push on them which will make teh nubs click and fall back in to place, I close the side panel of the case and viola, I'm done, after that I was like, what the heck, that took literally one minute, needless to say, once you pop that cherry, then you start changing things left and right when needed, that ram change led to me adding/upgrading gpus/HDDs/media drives, pci cards, etc, later building a whole pc, and so on and so forth.

point is that its so easy to do, you can do it with your eyes closed, you just don't know that yet, you will as soon as you do it.

When I say easy in this post, I mean easy for somebody who has never done it before in their entire life, I mean I can teach your 12 year old cousin that has never used a pc before ever, to do all those upgrades in just a few minutes.

Now if you want DS to do this upgrade, you gonna have to pay for gpu, its shipping to DS, then there is the cost of shipping the pc to DS, it can be around $250 depending, then there is cost of labor, so you can take a $400 upgrade and turn it into a $700 - $800 upgrade.

We are always here to help with upgrade/changes and now in days there are so many videos for everything, you really should do gpu/ram/HDD/SSD upgrades yourself, and we can help if needed.

Edited by DST4ME - 21 Apr 2011 at 3:01am