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  Quote Dragoonseal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Topic: BootRacer
    Posted: 14 Oct 2010 at 11:15am
Originally posted by justin.kerr

Originally posted by txfeinbergs

FYI, my DS system boots all the way to useable desktop in about 25 seconds.
here is a great program, to tell how long it takes to boot into windows.
called bootracer, post up your results.  Drogoonseal should use it, and start a thread, to see if anyone can beat him.
 
download here

Huh, neat little program. I guess it doesn't count BIOS time or else I'd be closer to 25 second cold boots to desktop myself.

I haven't done anything to optimize boot up times or anything, but:

10/14/2010 11:06:14 AM
BootRacer (c) Copyright 2008-2010 Greatis Software
Freeware for non-commercial use.
Boot Time to Logon Event: 00:00:08 (8 seconds)
Total Boot Time to Desktop:00:00:09 (9 seconds)
Finished at: 11:06:14 AM
User Logon Waiting Time: 1 seconds
Best Time: 00:00:09 (9 seconds)
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  Quote !ender_ Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Oct 2010 at 11:25am
yea i could be wrong here but i dont think there would be a way for any application to record boot time before you initialize the OS.. could always use a stopwatch :)
 
im very much looking forward to comparing my 500gb hdd unoptomised to my intel ssd after some tweaking :)
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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Oct 2010 at 11:55am
Nice job!  9 seconds is very good!!
My G1's have been used and abused so much, and the amount of crap I have on the DM right now, lol puts my performance very low.
Best I have seen is 7 seconds, so you are very close!  I knew you would have great times. Awesome
I will post a screen shot of my results, but they are nearly double yours.. Ninja
 
 
 
 
Edit, I was at 15 seconds, and I disabled some of the bloatware startup programs, and brought it down to 10.  Still can't touch Dragoonseals though, maybe, if I tweaked a bunch on OS, but then it would not be fair to use a tweaked OS that I do not use on a 24/7 setup. lol
Going to need better SSD's, well  in a couple years. lol
 
 
 


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  Quote AndydViking Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Oct 2010 at 10:36pm
Here is my score with regular Caviar Black HDD.  I use S3 sleep so really my "boots" are pretty instant anyhow.
 
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  Quote Mr. Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Oct 2010 at 3:34pm
Hmm my times is 14 to log in and 24 to desktop, is that good for 1 intel ssd? Can someone tell me how to post up pictures x.x Frustrated 
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  Quote AndydViking Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Oct 2010 at 3:46pm
Mr., Sounds fast as heck to me!

To post pics make a photobucket account or similar picture hoster. Then do the bootracer thing. Then hit print screen on keyboard. Then go to paint and past the picture there...crop. Then upload to photobucket and post the image link or thumbnail link in the foum post and you'll see it.

Edited by AndydViking - 15 Oct 2010 at 3:48pm
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  Quote Mr. Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Oct 2010 at 3:48pm
ohhh i see thanks AndydViking! im so noob at this stuff lol
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  Quote AndydViking Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Oct 2010 at 3:51pm
No problem this is a great forum and we all here to help each other out. Give it a few months of learning and you won't feel so noob anymore.

I recently promoted myself to advanced noob LOL!

Edited by AndydViking - 15 Oct 2010 at 3:52pm
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lmao advanced noob 
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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Oct 2010 at 2:15pm
Rholyrag, I forget what you are running for hard drive setup?
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  Quote rholyrag Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Oct 2010 at 5:39am
A Corsair P256 for OS, and a 1TB for media.
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  Quote !ender_ Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Oct 2010 at 12:11pm
 
i have a ways to go on my new OC but i wanted to put something up to come back and beat
 
i doubt ill be able to catch 3 X25s lol, but we will seeStrong
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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Oct 2010 at 12:30pm
looks very good! 
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  Quote Mr. Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Oct 2010 at 11:31pm
how do u guys get it to load up so fast??? ender do u have only one ssd?
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  Quote !ender_ Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Nov 2010 at 8:52am
yea, 1 intel 80gb
 
boot racing, as i guess we can call it, is something im relatively new to myself, my results have come from overclocking / service and startup tweaking but im sure dragoon knows some hard drive related tweaks that help him or it could just be the raid makes him uncatchably faster, i would imagine that boot time bottlencks pretty easily around 8 or 9 seconds in the general public and probably even the performance market... but like i said, still pretty new to this
right now my overclock is very unfinished, cas 9 @ 1600mhz lol, maybe pushing my ram some more could make a difference
time will tell
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  Quote Dragoonseal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Nov 2010 at 9:11am
I assume it's just the RAID or OC that does it, I haven't made any tweaks at all. Same used and abused G2 array I've had running for the last 7-8 months (since March), I've never done any maintenance to it at all, and it is currently 65% full.

Aside from Lilim's specs listed below, her memory is at 9-9-9-24 1600MHz, and PCIe frequency is at 115MHz or 120MHz (I forget which, off the top of my head).

I don't have much that runs at start up, just MSI Afterburner, Intel RST, and the Logitech keyboard G-key profiler, for the most part.
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  Quote Mr. Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Nov 2010 at 3:51pm
oh i still dont get how to check how fast my ram is runnign at but on cpuz its like this

soo can someone tell me how to read this lol

Edited by Mr. - 01 Nov 2010 at 3:52pm
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  Quote !ender_ Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Nov 2010 at 4:05pm
dram freq x2 = ram speed
so yours is at 1460mhz
 
CAS is 9, as im sure you can see there
 
and your command rate is 2t, which ... at that speed if you have 1600mhz rated ram could probably easily be set to 1t
but my cpuz shows 2t sometimes randomly... not sure why
try opening cpuz after you boot up and wait about 1 minute, it may say 1t then
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  Quote Mr. Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Nov 2010 at 4:10pm
its still saying 2t, ever since i got the pc when i opened cpuz its been saying 2t. i was just wondering why you and ender's was so fast for boot up n mine so slow. ist there a big diff between 1t and 2t?
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  Quote Dragoonseal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Nov 2010 at 4:15pm
Memory speed is BCLK x Memory Multiplier.
CPU speed is BCLK x CPU Multiplier.

CPU-Z lists the BCLK as "Bus Speed" on the CPU tab (if it is an EVGA board it will likely be listed as .5 lower than it really is), and the CPU Multiplier is listed right above that, and the resultant CPU speed right above that.

CPU-Z lists the Memory Multiplier under FSB:DRAM on the Memory tab, the second number (8 for you). Or you can multiply its DRAM Frequency reading by 2. So your memory is running at 1464MHz with timings 9-9-9-24.
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  Quote !ender_ Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Nov 2010 at 4:22pm
eh, its nothing to get upset about, you can simply go into your bios and change it to 1t, run memtest with the guide in the support section, if it passes over 200% on all 8 instances it should be fine
if you want to triple check it for stability, your can run some prime95
 
though, this setting will likely not improve your boot time, even by 1 second, its definitely a fine tune, and as i understand it is really only an initial data retrieving speed up, not an overall system speed up
 
if you want to make a thread specific to your boot time, start your own with all your system info and overclok information, and we will see if we can get it faster for you. but as i advise anyone:
before messing with anything, stop and think: am i happy with how my system is currently performing?
every overclock/tweak/fix comes with the potential for complication
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  Quote Mr. Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Nov 2010 at 4:41pm
ok thanks guys
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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Nov 2010 at 8:53pm
changed a few things on the overclock, trying for higher G flops on Linx, and knocked a tad off my time. 

Edited by justin.kerr - 10 Nov 2010 at 8:58pm
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god damn.... thats crazy justin
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  Quote Dragoonseal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 11 Nov 2010 at 1:20am
Cheater! Uninstalling your ATI video drivers does not count. Hahaha

Though the fact that turning off HT helped does not surprise me. I have half a mind to turn Lilim's HT off myself, it seems self defeating too often.
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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 11 Nov 2010 at 9:02am
haha, yes I was surprised how much the ATI drivers slowed down the bootracer. I have to do something do speed up those poor ol G1's Whoa
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  Quote Dragoonseal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 11 Nov 2010 at 11:22am
I needed to update drivers anyway, so here's with no Nvidia driver and HT off.

(I think anyway, one still showed up as "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480" instead of "Standard VGA Graphics Adapter", but I didn't feel like messing with it because Windows was so bloody hellbent on automatically downloading and installing Nvidia drivers that I left it alone once I got it to stop. Disappointed)



That's all you're getting out of me, I'm not uninstalling anything else.

Going to end up giving Lilim a complex or something. Cry
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Just got some new hardware.  No tweaking yet, but this is what I got right after win7 installation.  Currently on a test bench until I get the rest of the goodies.
 
Asus R2E
i7 950
2 g-skill 80gb phoenix pro's in raid 0
6gb 1600mhz g-skill cas 6
 
 
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  Quote Dragoonseal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 7:44pm
Not bad! What all drivers and software do you have installed so far rholyrag?
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Still running that 150GB velociraptor, lulz.
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Originally posted by Dragoonseal

Not bad! What all drivers and software do you have installed so far rholyrag?
 
The test was run before any software, except for intel rapid stoage technology, and any other drivers were installed.  My fault for not explaining right after win7 installation better.  Call it an experiment if you will...lol, seeing how much each program and driver impacts boot times after they are installed, and also comparing one ssd vs two ssd's in raid 0. 
 
lol..I was going to post the AS ssd benchmarks that were done comparing the two setups but it seems I don't have sufficient permission to upload screenshots, access denied...lol.  I will try again later...lol. 
 
And thank you for all the info you have shared on SSD's and hard drives, I have learned a lot from your posts...Big%20Smile.  
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  Quote Dragoonseal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 4:57pm
Originally posted by rholyrag

The test was run before any software, except for intel rapid stoage technology, and any other drivers were installed.  My fault for not explaining right after win7 installation better.  Call it an experiment if you will...lol, seeing how much each program and driver impacts boot times after they are installed, and also comparing one ssd vs two ssd's in raid 0.

Gotcha. Sounds like a fun and worthy experiment to do.
 
lol..I was going to post the AS ssd benchmarks that were done comparing the two setups but it seems I don't have sufficient permission to upload screenshots, access denied...lol.  I will try again later...lol.

Typically you get that if you've been logged out while writing a post. Just copy what you've written so far and back out to the main forum so it will log you back in and then go back to the thread and paste what you had continue on. Or just upload pictures to Photobucket and then link them.
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