brand new Bolt X - not what I expectedPost Date: 2020-08-19 |
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scooby092477
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Topic: brand new Bolt X - not what I expectedPosted: 19 Aug 2020 at 8:33pm |
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I received my new Bolt X a week ago. It's beautiful. Aesthetically pleasing, *even tho they didn't have the DS air flow board they substituted with the Corsair Commander Pro), all is well. I loved it. top-end components Z490 mobo i7 10700k, 2080 Super, Corsair Vengence, Seagate Firecuda Nvme, CPU & GPU both hardline watercooled. Everything should be perfect....or so I thought.... A couple of days in I finally got my games installed. I played for a few minutes and it powered down. No BSOD. so fast forward a couple of days later. it ONLY does it while gaming. I ran OCCD benchmark tool and put the GPU and CPU at 100% load for 5 minutes and temps got up to 80-90C on the CPU. not sure if this is normal, but it still didn't power down. I called DS and talked with Bon who was super helpful and he said lets keep the glass side panel off and see if that helps. Well. it does. So far. Played games for 2-3 hours and it was fine. Put the glass back on and it shut down within minutes. The only thing we can think it is, is the PSU. it sits inside the case and doesnt vent or breathe anywhere except within the heat of the case. and those copper fittings? they're VERY hot. so they add heat the internals of the case. the only solution we have come up with is to keep the glass off the side or maybe remove the back side panel of the case. all would be logical reasons to fix the problem. but not when I did nothing wrong. there are no 3.5" drives. just an SSD and a NVME installed. This is an engineering problem. How doesnt everyone have this problem? do I have a faulty PSU? I dont know. but for $4000 im not going to leave PANELS off my PC. what I have done to see if I can mitigate the probem is buy 2 slim 120mm fans and im going to slip them under the base. (there is room) and I'll tie them into the corair commander and see if sucking hot air out or blowing air in will help. its hard to say. im at a crossroads right now.....
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Warmocker
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Posted: 20 Aug 2020 at 7:40am |
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Tidgxor
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Posted: 20 Aug 2020 at 12:33pm |
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I have a Generation 1 Bolt, Revision 2. I can't speak much to the Bolt X but with my own experience and those I've read over the years Bolts are just hot beasts. However, as you say, DS wouldn't sell the Bolt X en masse if you had to remove panels to use it without overheating. You are absolutely correct, for that price (or really any price) you shouldn't need to modify the OEM case to prevent issues. I have a few guesses about what this could be, but the best piece of advice I can give you is unfortunately the most mundane - just keep working with DS on this. If Bon was thinking it might be the PSU, I'd try contacting DS again and referencing your ticket number to make sure they know the issue isn't resolved to your satisfaction as you purchased the Bolt X as a complete machine, not something you should have to remove parts from for it to function. Here on the forum we're just customers (with the exceptions of Alex, Stellar, and Nav) and while we can try to provide a few steps to help figure out exactly what the issue is, if this is some core hardware issue then working directly with DS is your best option.
Edited by Tidgxor - 20 Aug 2020 at 12:35pm |
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Alex
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Posted: 21 Aug 2020 at 1:21pm |
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Please stay in touch with our team, we will help take care of you and address any concerns or issues you have.
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harrisonsl
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Posted: 22 Aug 2020 at 10:10pm |
I'm having the same problem, same build. I've tried tweaking MSI Afterburner and the iCUE app. I can't get the 2 fans over 1479 RPM each (less than 3000 combined). |
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brand0dotcom
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Posted: 23 Aug 2020 at 12:45pm |
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I am also a recent bolt x owner with a 10900k, 2080 Ti. it's a custom loop. The 2080 Ti stays at around 65 degrees C, which is totally within tolerances. The 10900k with an all core overclock of 4.7 Ghz hovers around 75-83 degrees C. i've seen it peak at 90 but it averages around 80 most of the time under full load. This is being pushed to the limit also as I'm running MS Flight Simulator 2020 at ultra settings. The 10900K runs totally within intel specs with most other games I play on the system though with average temps around 75 degrees C. I wonder if it's a thermal paste issue?
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scooby092477
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Posted: 23 Aug 2020 at 10:51pm |
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im thinking its a venting issue. This system has the highest specs and even with water cooling, do you know where all the heat goes? NOWHERE! there isnt a single exhaust fan on this system!! ive stuck a fan on the inside under the PSU to blow air OUTSIDE the case towards the bottom but it still shuts down after 30 minutes of Flight Sim 2020.. im pissed. they're like "maybe you shouldnt have your setting so high" like wtf ..are you kidding? i just bought a $4,000 PC and they want me to turn my settings down????? this is bullsh*t.
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scooby092477
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Posted: 23 Aug 2020 at 10:52pm |
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yours doesnt shut down? Im tempted to get a corsair PSU....
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harrisonsl
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Posted: 24 Aug 2020 at 8:04am |
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Mine shuts down while playing MS Flight Simulator 2020 at ultra settings. This also occurred while playing Grounded and Hell Let Loose at the highest settings. I went into BIOS to check the fan speeds...Chassis fans was set to Normal and the CPU fan was set to High. At idle CPU is 40c, GPU is 37c, Mainboard is 40c, Fan Speed is 2700-3000 (according to IOBit Performance Monitor).
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scooby092477
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Posted: 24 Aug 2020 at 10:51am |
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yeah, at idle my temps are fairly normal, but the minute you start taxing the system by playing literally ANY game, the temps rise to 60-70C which is still operating temps for the CPU and GPU, but the PSU is putting out so much voltage and the exhaust from the PSU just sits inside the case and does not vent anywhere. I can't believe they actually "stress" test these because I can't even play a game for 30-60 minutes without it shutting down. This is a sh*t box for $4000. They are trying to help me "solve" the issue, but the issue is that it's a bad design that I didn't know about. I didn't know there weren't any exhaust or intake fans, let alone the PSU just sits inside all the heat that generated. and I EVEN HAVE ALL WATERCOOLED components. I couldn't imagine if there were more fans and more hot air in this thing. My room is at 75 degrees, so it's not abnormal ambient room temperature. The tech support guy was like yeah our build rooms are super cold. Well, buddy, I'm not going to play with my PC in a meat locker. They are helping me yes, but at the same time, trying to pass the BLAME onto me. like I should turn settings down, etc? EXCUSE ME? I have a RTX 2080 and I'm supposed to not play at decent frames or resolution? I don't know what the F he was trying to get around but I'm not happy and I'm seriously looking at sending it back and I'm not interested in getting this PC in another case. to me all other digital storm cases are UGLY AF. These are NOT accepotable results. This case might have worked with 9th gen i7's and 1080 GPU's, but they certainly don't work with 2080's and a 10700k. They clearly didnt test one and play with it or they would have known.
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Posted: 24 Aug 2020 at 10:53am |
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I'm sorry to hear about your issues, please contact our team, we will help make this right. You should be able to enjoy this PC with max settings without worrying.
Feel free to reach out to me as well via email "[email protected]". |
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brand0dotcom
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Posted: 24 Aug 2020 at 10:54am |
No mine is running perfectly fine. I should have specified in my first reply that those temps I'm getting are at full load. Idle the GPU runs at 35C and the CPU runs at 40C. I've never had it shut down or anything. It does hit 90C under load but it's just a spike in temp, it quickly gets back to tolerable levels around 78-82C I would definitely reach back out to speak with a tech. Any concerns or issues I've had they have taken care of really quickly.
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Tomsal74
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Posted: 29 Aug 2020 at 3:52pm |
Sorry to hear of your issues that sucks. I own a Bolt that I ordered in early 2018 so I don't know what gen that is, but I've never had the issues you explain. Of course we don't have the same hardware in it either I have a GTX 1080 and an i7-8700 cpu in mine. There's only one issue I have with mine and it only started in the last 6 months. If I plug my headset mic in I often have to play around with sound settings to get the mic and headset to work (its not the headset. I plug it into my laptop -- it works first time every time). So that's annoying but I never over heat. (knock on wood) |
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scooby092477
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Posted: 29 Aug 2020 at 5:46pm |
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yeah, my PSU issues are not related to the heating issues. I've had this PC shut down while both CPU and GPU are at 70C which is normal operating temps. It's like the PC can't handle the wattage load. The overheating, is annoying because it can't handle 100% load on a 3dMark benchmark test without getting 85C and eventually shutting down. Nothing seems out of the orfinary while just using this as a dekstop machine. holds temps down in the low to mid 30's.
DS contacted me and in order to send me a new PSU, they want me to send my back FIRST, and probably be without a PSU for 2 weeks, OR... they want to put a hold on my card while they wait for me to send the "suspected" faulty PSU. DO they think it's not bad hardware? There isn't a software setting that makes your PC flake and overheat. I dont have anything overclocked. *eyeroll* THis is getting old. 2 weeks into my new machinbe and the only thing its got going for it is looks. They literally told me to turn my settings down. lol. |
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