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    Posted: 01 Feb 2013 at 3:05pm
So, I am considering this build. It will be a dual purpose system. Work (I am a developer, and will have from 3-6 VM's open at any one time, hence 32GB Mem) and play, Crysis, Skyrim and the like, plus a few MMO's, EQ2, SWTOR and hopefulle TSO Online when it hits.
 
Looking for something to last me a few years, 3 or so, without being totally outdated by then.
 
So....what ya all think, what would you change.
 
Total cost of system: 3,554.00 + Shipping
 
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Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Corsair Carbide 300R (With Window)
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 3930K 3.2GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Six-Core)
Motherboard: ASUS Sabertooth X79 (Intel X79 Chipset) (Features USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s)
System Memory: 32GB DDR3 1600Mhz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 800W Corsair GS (Dual SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (180GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: 520 Series)
Set 1 Raid Options: Configure HDD Set 1 to a Raid 1 Config - Mirror (Requires Two HDDs)
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (Model: Black Edition)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (Model: Black Edition)
Optical Drive 1: ASUS Blu-Ray Player/DVD Writer (Play Blu-Ray and Burn DVDs) (Model: BC-12B1ST)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card(s): 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 2GB (Includes PhysX) (Overclocked EVGA)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex 240mm Radiator Liquid CPU Cooler (Extreme-Performance Edition)
H20 Tube Color: - Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Upgrade Chassis With Zalman Performance Fans (Up to 6 Fans)
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: Noise Suppression Package Stage 1 (Optimized Airflow & Fan Speeds Only)
LaserMark: - No Thanks
CPU Boost: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires Pro/Deluxe/Sabertooth Motherboard)
Graphics Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Memory Boost: Memory Fan Kit Only (Does not include memory overclocking service)
OS Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: Acer 23 inch (Widescreen) (Black) (High-Performance Gaming Display)
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K90 (MMO Mechanical Gaming Keyboard) (Black/Metal Finish)
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty
 
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I would suggest buying the monitor and keyboard elsewhere. Amazon and Walmart i know have the keyboard for 113 dollars.
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Originally posted by ArkansasWoman777

I would suggest buying the monitor and keyboard elsewhere. Amazon and Walmart i know have the keyboard for 113 dollars.
 
OK, other than that, opinions ?
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If you are interested in a quite pc i would recommend the slade. 782572. I tried to match what you had configured but with a different case. Cost: 3,193. I know i'm not to much help on advice but others on here i know can give more helpful advice/opinions.
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Originally posted by ArkansasWoman777

If you are interested in a quite pc i would recommend the slade. 782572. I tried to match what you had configured but with a different case. Cost: 3,193. I know i'm not to much help on advice but others on here i know can give more helpful advice/opinions.
 
Hmm took a look at that and I like, decided to modify it a bit and have this: 782582
 
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Corsair Obsidian 550D
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 3930K 3.2GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Six-Core)
Motherboard: ASUS Sabertooth X79 (Intel X79 Chipset) (Features USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s)
System Memory: 32GB DDR3 1600Mhz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 800W Corsair GS (Dual SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (180GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: 520 Series)
Set 1 Raid Options: Configure HDD Set 1 to a Raid 1 Config - Mirror (Requires Two HDDs)
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (Model: Black Edition)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (Model: Black Edition)
Optical Drive 1: ASUS Blu-Ray Player/DVD Writer (Play Blu-Ray and Burn DVDs) (Model: BC-12B1ST)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card(s): 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 2GB (Includes PhysX) (Overclocked EVGA)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex 240mm Radiator Liquid CPU Cooler (Extreme-Performance Edition)
H20 Tube Color: - Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: Noise Suppression Package Stage 1 (Optimized Airflow & Fan Speeds Only)
LaserMark: - No Thanks
CPU Boost: Stage 1: Overclock CPU 4.0GHz to 4.4GHz
Graphics Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Memory Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
OS Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: Acer 23 inch (Widescreen) (Black) (High-Performance Gaming Display)
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K90 (MMO Mechanical Gaming Keyboard) (Black/Metal Finish)
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Extra Large)
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty
 
A tad less OC on the proc, but a quieter system.....
 
Comes to 3552 + shipping


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That does look good. Although if you stick with stage 2 h2O i heard that it will be louder than stage 1 h2O since the Slade is suppose to be a noise reduction tower and the guidelines recommend that you use the Stage 1 Vortex 120mm

Edited by ArkansasWoman777 - 01 Feb 2013 at 3:57pm
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Originally posted by ArkansasWoman777

That does look good. Although if you stick with stage 2 h2O i heard that it will be louder than stage 1 h2O since the Slade is suppose to be a noise reduction tower.
 
Ya dont think that would make a big difference in how cool it stays ?
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I honestly couldn't tell you. I think the people who are most familiar with the vortex cooling would have to tell you that.
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Hi wwoods.... ArkansasWoman777 steered you to a better case over the 300r.   Your build looks great, and alot quieter than your original with those noisy Zalman fans.

One thing to consider.... The 550D is quiet because of the top and side acoustic, sound deadening, panels being on.    With the Vortex 240 the top panel stays off because the rad mounts up top.   The quiet goes away.   The option is either go with Vortex 120 that mounts against the inside back wall allowing top panel to stay on or go with the newer Corsair H100i with its better fans and Corsair Link software that allows the fans to be adjusted for speed and noise.

Or, go with the the 500r or HafX case under Special Ops. The 500r has a side panel 200mm fan to feed fresh air to the video card and mobo.   The HafX is the best air cooled case and quiet with large slow moving fans that push lots of air.

The gtx 670 is within 5-10% of the performance of the 680 for alot less money. Just another way to get the most for your money.

Change to Window 7 Pro to use over 16gb ram.

Hope this helps and good luck.


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For cooling, in general, the Vortex 120 is for stage 1 oc and the Vortex 240 or Corsair H100i for stage 2 oc.

If you go with the 500r or even better the Dreadnought HafX case, you can use the Noctua D14 air cooler. Its very reliable and quiet.

Lots of ways to go.

You could go to Dreadnought level 3 and make your drive selections. Add the Noctua D14 cooler and gtx 670 and that would be my pick.   I can't do alot right now with configs and cut/paste.   

See what you think. I have to take off for now.    See ya tomorrow.

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Thanks for all the tips folks, seteled on this: 782602
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Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Corsair Obsidian 550D
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 3930K 3.2GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Six-Core)
Motherboard: ASUS Sabertooth X79 (Intel X79 Chipset) (Features USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s)
System Memory: 32GB DDR3 1600Mhz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 800W Corsair GS (Dual SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (180GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: 520 Series)
Set 1 Raid Options: Configure HDD Set 1 to a Raid 1 Config - Mirror (Requires Two HDDs)
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (Model: Black Edition)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (Model: Black Edition)
Optical Drive 1: ASUS Blu-Ray Player/DVD Writer (Play Blu-Ray and Burn DVDs) (Model: BC-12B1ST)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card(s): 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 2GB (Includes PhysX) (Overclocked EVGA)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex 120mm Radiator Liquid CPU Cooler (High-Performance Edition)
H20 Tube Color: - Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: Noise Suppression Package Stage 1 (Optimized Airflow & Fan Speeds Only)
LaserMark: - No Thanks
CPU Boost: Standard Intel Turbo Boost 2.0 Automatic Overclocking
Graphics Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Memory Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
OS Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: Acer 23 inch (Widescreen) (Black) (High-Performance Gaming Display)
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K90 (MMO Mechanical Gaming Keyboard) (Black/Metal Finish)
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Extra Large)
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty
 
I am sticking with that case because it will sit on my home office, and clients are in there at times so......its a very professional looking case.
 
Also I assume that vid card will push 2 monitors easy enough
 
Awesome


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Hello wwoods. Like your build...

ArkansasWoman and bprat steered ya in the right direction, and DS will build you a rock solid rig.     X79 and the 3930K are a great combination...I'm using them now.   

I do have one caution for you regarding your RAID SSD selection.

As I have posted several times now, Intel has not yet seen fit to update the X79 chipset motherboard family to allow the TRIM software function to work with RAID.   Despite promises, Intel may never do so this late in the game, and if DS didn't already warn you about this, DS sales reps should probably be speaking up about the TRIM issue when customers order RAID on the X79 boards to make sure they are aware.     Without TRIM
taking out the trash, once you have written to all the memory blocks once, your fast SSD RAID array would slow down.

I discovered this fact about no Intel TRIM in RAID on X79 while my build was being assembled, confirmed it as accurate with DS, and dropped SSD RAID on my X79 /3930K Hailstorm build in Oct '12 as a result.    Still plenty fast on a single SSD Drive 1.

Alex....? Perhaps it's time to put a caution for DS customers on the RAID selection choices about that Intel TRIM issue with X79 chipset...      
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[QUOTE=HockeyBuck]Hello wwoods. Like your build...

ArkansasWoman and bprat steered ya in the right direction, and DS will build you a rock solid rig.     X79 and the 3930K are a great combination...I'm using them now.   

I do have one caution for you regarding your RAID SSD selection.

As I have posted several times now, Intel has not yet seen fit to update the X79 chipset motherboard family to allow the TRIM software function to work with RAID.   Despite promises, Intel may never do so this late in the game, and if DS didn't already warn you about this, DS sales reps should probably be speaking up about the TRIM issue when customers order RAID on the X79 boards to make sure they are aware.     Without TRIM
taking out the trash, once you have written to all the memory blocks once, your fast SSD RAID array would slow down.

I discovered this fact about no Intel TRIM in RAID on X79 while my build was being assembled, confirmed it as accurate with DS, and dropped SSD RAID on my X79 /3930K Hailstorm build in Oct '12 as a result.    Still plenty fast on a single SSD Drive 1.

Alex....? Perhaps it's time to put a caution for DS customers on the RAID selection choices about that Intel TRIM issue with X79 chipset...      [/QUOTE
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That build looks great. It'll be quiet but powerful.   

You could go with stage 1 overclocking.   It is an inexpensive boost in performance.   

Good luck.
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Originally posted by bprat22

That build looks great. It'll be quiet but powerful.   

You could go with stage 1 overclocking.   It is an inexpensive boost in performance.   

Good luck.
 
I thought about that, but this will also be a work system, running multiple VM's at once (anywhere from 3-6) and stability is a big deal. Would that be stable ?
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Originally posted by HockeyBuck

Hello wwoods. Like your build...

ArkansasWoman and bprat steered ya in the right direction, and DS will build you a rock solid rig.     X79 and the 3930K are a great combination...I'm using them now.   

I do have one caution for you regarding your RAID SSD selection.

As I have posted several times now, Intel has not yet seen fit to update the X79 chipset motherboard family to allow the TRIM software function to work with RAID.   Despite promises, Intel may never do so this late in the game, and if DS didn't already warn you about this, DS sales reps should probably be speaking up about the TRIM issue when customers order RAID on the X79 boards to make sure they are aware.     Without TRIM
taking out the trash, once you have written to all the memory blocks once, your fast SSD RAID array would slow down.

I discovered this fact about no Intel TRIM in RAID on X79 while my build was being assembled, confirmed it as accurate with DS, and dropped SSD RAID on my X79 /3930K Hailstorm build in Oct '12 as a result.    Still plenty fast on a single SSD Drive 1.

Alex....? Perhaps it's time to put a caution for DS customers on the RAID selection choices about that Intel TRIM issue with X79 chipset...      
 
I am planning on raiding the two Westerd Digitals and booting off the SSD. I would have assumed that my raid selection would have applied to the WD's ?
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Overclocking is usually very stable.  On occasion and not common, after one takes delivery, they might have boot problems, but a quick call to DS to tweek the voltage is all it needs. DS does test for stability but every location is different.   After that, all is good. 
 
I've had mine oc'd to stage 1 for 18 months at 4.4 Ghz and vcore at 1.4 , using it many hours every day with zero problems. 
 
 
 
 
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Originally posted by bprat22

Overclocking is usually very stable.  On occasion and not common, after one takes delivery, they might have boot problems, but a quick call to DS to tweek the voltage is all it needs. DS does test for stability but every location is different.   After that, all is good. 
 
I've had mine oc'd to stage 1 for 18 months at 4.4 Ghz and vcore at 1.4 , using it many hours every day with zero problems. 
 
 
Yea, I did not mean to imply they dont test, I am sure they do a great job, call it paranoia....work system and all. I donno, I may, will think on it.
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No problems.  Big%20Smile   All legitimate concerns that most of us had at one point.   Paranoia can be a good thing. Hahaha 
 
The oc profile is saved in Bios as a seperate profile, so one can always load default profile and get rid of oc. 
 
Ya gotta do whatever makes you comfortable. 
 
 
 
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No problems.  Big%20Smile   All legitimate concerns that most of us had at one point.   Paranoia can be a good thing. Hahaha 
 
The oc profile is saved in Bios as a seperate profile, so one can always load default profile and get rid of oc. 
 
Ya gotta do whatever makes you comfortable. 
 
 
 
 
Yea..I am still debating it. But, I am a little more comfortable knowing the OC profile is seperate and I can load the default whenever.
 
One more thing, the vid card I chose, should be able to push dual monitors quite easilly ?
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The gtx 680 can drive two monitors with no problem.  If you game across two monitors, which I don't believe you do, then with some demanding games the settings would have to be dropped a bit because of the added rendering needed. 
 
Here's a link to see what it can do.
 
 
Not sure what you need for the VMs, but should be very good. 
 
 
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The gtx 680 can drive two monitors with no problem.  If you game across two monitors, which I don't believe you do, then with some demanding games the settings would have to be dropped a bit because of the added rendering needed. 
 
Here's a link to see what it can do.
 
 
Not sure what you need for the VMs, but should be very good. 
 
 


Yea, I dont game across 2 monitors.. The dual monitors are used when I work, vm's on one monitor and editing on other....

Thanks again for all the tips
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Not sure how demanding your virtualizations are, 3D or not, but with the Sabertooth mobo you do have the ability to add another video card for sli if needed.  I would want a little bigger psu for sli, but that's just an option you might or might not care about.
 
 
 
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Not sure how demanding your virtualizations are, 3D or not, but with the Sabertooth mobo you do have the ability to add another video card for sli if needed.  I would want a little bigger psu for sli, but that's just an option you might or might not care about.
 
 
 


not 3d, mostly CLI on linux systems in VM's (vmware) running on win7, maby one or two with a real simple GUI, but nothing 3d.

I may opt for the bigger power supply, maby 1k, that way if I ever do go SLI I am set in that respect.
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Your build shows your 180 GB Intel 520 SSD as boot drive 1, and you selected RAID 1 for drive set 1, so you will want to change that to no raid for set 1.    TRIM is needed for RAID with SSD's...and it's not there for the X79 chipset to use.    

You will be fine using RAID with normal HD's on the X79 mobo.       
You will have to ask DS Sales if they will RAID 1 the matching WD's you selected for your drive 2 and drive 3.    Don't see why they wouldn't.

I would agree about going with the 1050w PSU as you were considering, to better guard your easy upgrade path to 2 x SLI 680's.    Never hurts to exceed your max power requirements, as all PSU power levels will degrade over time.

I would definitely suggest you go LEVEL 1 overclock on the 3930K CPU ...A very inexpensive CPU boost that your cooler, K class processor and board are all designed for, adding to overall performance for very little cash.     
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Posts: 28 		  Quote wwoods Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 02 Feb 2013 at 1:24pm
Originally posted by HockeyBuck

Your build shows your 180 GB Intel 520 SSD as boot drive 1, and you selected RAID 1 for drive set 1, so you will want to change that to no raid for set 1.    TRIM is needed for RAID with SSD's...and it's not there for the X79 chipset to use.    

You will be fine using RAID with normal HD's on the X79 mobo.       
You will have to ask DS Sales if they will RAID 1 the matching WD's you selected for your drive 2 and drive 3.    Don't see why they wouldn't.

I would agree about going with the 1050w PSU as you were considering, to better guard your easy upgrade path to 2 x SLI 680's.    Never hurts to exceed your max power requirements, as all PSU power levels will degrade over time.

I would definitely suggest you go LEVEL 1 overclock on the 3930K CPU ...A very inexpensive CPU boost that your cooler, K class processor and board are all designed for, adding to overall performance for very little cash.     
 
OK....782937 is the build :
 
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Corsair Obsidian 550D
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 3930K 3.2GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Six-Core)
Motherboard: ASUS Sabertooth X79 (Intel X79 Chipset) (Features USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s)
System Memory: 32GB DDR3 1600Mhz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1050W Corsair Pro Silver 1050HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: Internal Digital Media Card Reader (Black)
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (180GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: 520 Series)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (Model: Black Edition)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (Model: Black Edition)
Optical Drive 1: ASUS Blu-Ray Player/DVD Writer (Play Blu-Ray and Burn DVDs) (Model: BC-12B1ST)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 2GB (Includes PhysX) (Overclocked EVGA)
Add-on Card: USB 3.0 4-Port PCI Express Card
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex 120mm Radiator Liquid CPU Cooler (High-Performance Edition)
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: Noise Suppression Package Stage 1 (Optimized Airflow & Fan Speeds Only)
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock CPU 4.0GHz to 4.4GHz
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: Acer 23 inch (Widescreen) (Black) (High-Performance Gaming Display)
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K90 (MMO Mechanical Gaming Keyboard) (Black/Metal Finish)
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Extra Large)
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty
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Am I missing anything,  takeing all the advice , this is what I have come up with.  Almost at top end of my budget here...
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I doesn't save much but, not sure you need the USB card.   The case has 2 front usb 3 and the mobo on the rear i/o panel has another 4 usb 3 and 6 usb 2.0. Depends what you need, though.

The rest looks great.
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Posts: 28 		  Quote wwoods Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 02 Feb 2013 at 2:16pm
Originally posted by bprat22

I doesn't save much but, not sure you need the USB card.   The case has 2 front usb 3 and the mobo on the rear i/o panel has another 4 usb 3 and 6 usb 2.0. Depends what you need, though.

The rest looks great.


Ahh, excellent, dident know had that many onboard, I will drop the extra USB card, plus that will drop the power consumption, even by a little bit.

Thanks again everyone for the advice, this is gonna replace my 4 year old system been struggling with.

Will be sure to post a review/pics when comes in, I will probably be ordering early next week. Gonna be a long 2 week wait for delivery....
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Have you looked at the Dell Ultra series for monitor? I'd recommend U2412M instead of the Acer. Or you can always go to the 27'' version if needed be.
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Don't forget the free game download!   

Just a thought to consider here before you decide this nice build.      

For only $300 difference you could be going with a 2 X SLI 670 2 GB setup now...? or $375 more for 2 x SLI 670 4 Gb now....?       

Either SLI 670 setup would absolutely smoke the single 680 and would be very very close in performance to 2 x SLI 680's.     Perhaps you could delay the monitor & keyboard in order to pay for the higher SLI performance now...?     

Look at # 783190 using 2 x SLI GTX 670 4 GB cards...
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Yea like i mentioned earlier you can get the keyboard for cheaper at Amazon or Walmart. Maybe even the Monitor to.

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Posts: 28 		  Quote wwoods Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 03 Feb 2013 at 9:17am
Originally posted by HockeyBuck

Don't forget the free game download!   

Just a thought to consider here before you decide this nice build.      

For only $300 difference you could be going with a 2 X SLI 670 2 GB setup now...? or $375 more for 2 x SLI 670 4 Gb now....?       

Either SLI 670 setup would absolutely smoke the single 680 and would be very very close in performance to 2 x SLI 680's.     Perhaps you could delay the monitor & keyboard in order to pay for the higher SLI performance now...?     

Look at # 783190 using 2 x SLI GTX 670 4 GB cards...
 
Really, would a SLI 670 be that much better than a single 680 ? ...Drooling .. might have to look into that. And yea...must get the game also.
 
How would SLI effect my heat in that rig ya think ? Other thing I was thinking, a 680 would be more "future proof"...ya think a SLI 670 would be more future prrof ?
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Really, would a SLI 670 be that much better than a single 680 ? ...Drooling .. might have to look into that. And yea...must get the game also.
 
How would SLI effect my heat in that rig ya think ? Other thing I was thinking, a 680 would be more "future proof"...ya think a SLI 670 would be more future prrof ?
I'm curious about that too wwoodsBig%20Smile... future proof is what I want also.
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Originally posted by HockeyBuck

Don't forget the free game download!   

Just a thought to consider here before you decide this nice build.      

For only $300 difference you could be going with a 2 X SLI 670 2 GB setup now...? or $375 more for 2 x SLI 670 4 Gb now....?       

Either SLI 670 setup would absolutely smoke the single 680 and would be very very close in performance to 2 x SLI 680's.     Perhaps you could delay the monitor & keyboard in order to pay for the higher SLI performance now...?     

Look at # 783190 using 2 x SLI GTX 670 4 GB cards...
 
Really, would a SLI 670 be that much better than a single 680 ? ...Drooling .. might have to look into that. And yea...must get the game also.
 
How would SLI effect my heat in that rig ya think ? Other thing I was thinking, a 680 would be more "future proof"...ya think a SLI 670 would be more future prrof ? I guess what I am asking, would a single 680 or a SLI 670 4GB be more future proof ? I dont mind spending the $$ up front if it will last longer.
 
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A sli, gtx 670 is almost double the performance of a single 680.  No contest.
 
Here's a link to compare the two cards in single setup.
 
 
As far as heat, most not all of the heat is exhausted out the back ports of the card and out of the case.  You still want decent airflow to the cards fans though. 
 
The 550D case will probably work if you game in air conditioning where the air pulled into the case is cool.  The 550D is a great case but does trade cooling for quiet.    For sli, I'd go to one of the cases i mentioned before but that's me.  Big%20Smile


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