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    Posted: 19 Sep 2010 at 11:50pm
the stuff im gonna list DS doesnt have some of it but if i should get it ill send it to them and have them add it and if there is something better let me know... i dont want the TOP of the line stuff like ik i could get a different mobo bigger case and all that but i want bang for your buck like if there is something thats better that i should get let me know but if its just to max out then i probably dont need it but all input is welcome

this is a strictly gaming PC at 1920 x 1080 no budget really i mean i dont want to pay like near $8000 the builds i was configuring on here were around like 3500 and i have a lot of room after that and 1920 x 1080 isnt for sure ill go as high as the build will let me but build it as if i was going for that im getting the monitor after... also monitor suggestions are needed after the build is figured out
all of these questions are with as much overclocking as i can without blowing stuff lol(and i dont know about it but once i build it ill has for help for that)
Cooler Master 922 should i get the 932 is it better cooling? or a diff case all together... also i wouldnt mind getting replacement fans for any case to make it cooler and i really dont think i need liquid cooling
PSU not sure what one i should get but i only want it to run 2 video cards should i just get the 1200w one from digital storm or is there a better one the corsair 1 is so much more i can probably just get a better one and send it to them
eVGA x58 SLI 3
i7 920
Noctua NH-D14
Memory im not sure about this one either was looking at the corsair dominator-GT but idk is there other memory with better timings? ik i want 6GB 1600Mhz
Corsair Airflow Pro(do i need this?)
Intel 160GB Solid State Drive
2TB Hard Drive
Blu-Ray Burner
Blu-Ray Player
Video card should i get 2 GTX 480s or i was looking at the Asus Ares are they worth the extra money? ik its expensive but will there be a huge difference? and what how much of a difference would it be like could i max out any game with them?
Auzentech X-Fi Home Theater HD(is there better ones? the thing i like about this one i was looking on the website and i can buy i think they are new amps im not even sure and switch it out and make it sound even better so ill probably get this one unless there is a better one)
Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit

again a lot of this DS already has so i shouldnt have to order but anything extra that will make it better i have no problem ordering


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  Quote al3xLJ Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 3:07am
1. All the HAF cases have good airflow, but i would go for the 932 or X
2. That PSU will be more than enough, but I don't recommend going lower
3. Dunno much about mobos, I think that one is fine tho :P
4. 920 is fine as it has a lot of OCing potential
5. The Noctua fans are really good and cheap, good choice
6. Again, dunno much about memory, but I'm guessing these are good, you could also go with the DS branded ones :P
7. I don't think so with the HAF cases the airflow is enough
8. Drives are good, but do u need so much space?
9. I'd say stick with the GTX 480s, 1.2k seems ridiculous for a graphics card, but if you are willing to make the investment for the xtra power, feel free :P
10. This is quite a good sound card, but you could maybe find better around Newegg or elsewhere

EDIT: 2 480s perform better than the Ares at 2560x1600 with AA, and are cheaper, here's a full review of the Ares:                   http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/asus-ares-radeon-hd-5870-crossfire-4gb,2685.html

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  Quote !ender_ Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 9:37am
this should be plenty
 
what makes you want 2 TB? thats a ton of space
 
there are better timings to be had than DSO certified, but it will make such little difference. unless you benchmark as a hobby, not much point in going higher there
 
the corsair 1200 is expensive to be sure, but i doubt youll find a better one for less, the 1200 certified one should really be fine, im pretty sure its 80+ anyway
 
that auzen card is super expensive, what makes you want something so expensive? even for editing and creating audio thats pretty pricey
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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 9:46am
For gaming sound cards, the creative is pretty much they way to go. For building a HTPC, that Auzentech is a great choice.  And for the record I have had more driver issues with my auzentech cards than the Creative ones.
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  Quote CStormO Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 11:33am
ok so u have a auzentech is it the one i listed? also have u looked at the upgrade kits thats why i was thinking it because im a sound whore especially on games like cod which id play on PC but i love it have great sound as for the 2TB ik its a huge space thats what i want im making a gaming computer but i will also use it to record gameplay on it from my PS3 and Xbox

o yea and the PSU yea idk its good but like on newegg for 299 i think they have a better PSU(i think i might be wrong though)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139014

like i said ik it will cost more i dont mind pay a little more to have better stuff but so memory basically whatever works newegg has some mushkin 6GB 1600Mhz for 109 after rebate i might just get that? but sounds like everything else is good? any suggestions though maybe something better then something i listed? nothing like the i7 980x tho i mean ik its better but right now its just not worth the money im kind of making a budget pc without a budget if that makes sense lol


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  Quote !ender_ Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 12:17pm
just as long as you know exactly how much 2 tb is becuase its a LOT of space
 
that link is the same PSU ds is offering.. im pretty sure
 
if you wanted to get your own mushkin i guess you could but i dont really know why.. its one of the brands DS uses anyway and you might save $20 if you dont have to pay shipping?
 
as far as suggestions, i suggest what i linked you
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  Quote CStormO Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 1:50pm
ok well then if the memory PSU then i guess and everything else is good i guess i dont really need to send anything in that build is good but i upgraded the sound card and a couple other things thx tho guys any other advice would be appreciated im gonna wait a day or 2 to order
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  Quote AmbientChong11 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 2:19pm
The dimensions of the HAF 922 and 932 are not that much different. Almost very similar in that aspect, but the 922 is a mid-tower opposed to the full-tower 932. In regards to design, I prefer the 922 over the 932 (I have a keen eye to details Architecture major). Has the aesthetics plus expandability (So to the 932 minus the aesthetics ... looks a bit too "meh" to me). Whichever you get, note both cases have extremely great air-flow.
 
 
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  Quote !ender_ Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 2:51pm
i tend to disagree in every way on the haf 922 vs 932
 
the 922 is oversized for a mid case, in my opinion. while lighter, its almost the same size in each dimension as the 932, without the extra space inside
 
then on a worse note,the cooling is definitely worse, i mean
932 = 1 140mm and 3x 230mm  vs
922 = 1 120mm and 2x 200mm 
 
the 922 doesnt even come with the optional 200mm side intake fan the 932 has, making it not only worse in most every way, but not that much cheaper if you add the fan(s) to the side panel


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  Quote AmbientChong11 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 3:13pm
Originally posted by !ender_

i tend to disagree in every way on the haf 922 vs 932
 
the 922 is oversized for a mid case, in my opinion. while lighter, its almost the same size in each dimension as the 932, without the extra space inside
 
the 922 doesnt even come with the optional 200mm side intake fan the 932 has, making it not only worse in most every way, but not that much cheaper if you add the fan(s) to the side panel
 
Well, at least we agree that the dimensions are almost identical. Yes, no side fan was included with the 922, having to buy extra. But in retrospect, I made a mistake with the fan upgrades when I ordered from DS. They are loud and the efficient cooling is well, efficient, without them. I'll probably not get replacements.
 
And yes, the 922's shouldn't be classified as a mid-tower. If anything, it should have a different name and a place in the full-tower section.


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  Quote MagiK Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 5:38pm
Since I keep seeing the issue brought up

2TB of disk space is 229GB too little to hold all the episodes of the following Television shows at DVD resolution:
Andromeda
Angel
Babylon5
Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Farscape
Hercules The Legendary Journeys
StarGate SG1
StarGate Atlantis


and about 1/8th of my current media library  ;)  so that is how much 2TB of disk space is.  LOL
(ugh BluRay is gonna kill me  :P )


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  Quote !ender_ Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 6:06pm
there are different forms of every disease
 
you could just buy a few towers of dvds from newegg and have all that on hard copies, watchable on any dvd player, and not waiting for a single power surge or hardware failure to crush the collection
 
plus if you... buy them... they already come already on dvds! zomg!~
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  Quote MagiK Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 6:12pm
LOL  Im not in danger from a single point of failure wiping me out,  (I do systems Analysis for a living I know about disaster prevention and mitigation) and I am able to have people in all the different rooms and guest rooms watching what they want when they want.  Though as the kids get older and move out it will be less of an issue.

Though I do hoard media and data  but its not as bad as hoarding say cats or junk that fills up the house.... At least this just draws down on my energy savings from the Solar Panels  Hahaha

(edit for clarity, I legally own all the media that I stream, I don't support piracy)


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  Quote !ender_ Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 6:34pm
im glad to hear that, me either.
 
its quite funny to me really becuase im the polar opposite...very spartan. if its not being used it gets thrown away/deleted, true on my computer and in real life
 
when my gf met me i had a futon/desk/computer/tv, and one knife/fork/spoon/bown/plate/cup, and some clothes lol
....funny that since she showed up there seems to be stuff everywhereCrazy
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MagiK, I'm the same way.  I've got 4TB on my NAS for my movies, then I've got a 1TB external for TV shows, and a 1TB external for music.  All are just about full except for the music drive.  I use the NAS in raid 1 though for back-up.  I need to get a bigger NAS soon, so I can back-up the rest of my DVD's to disc.  I collect DVD's too as I like to have the discs sometimes.  They just take up so much space.
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  Quote MagiK Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2010 at 7:12pm
hogz, The DVD's are packed up in sealed plastic bins in the unfinished portion of our basement, along with all our other junk (spare ammo, christmas decorations, halowwen stuff, antiquated electronics etc)  in one respect I am like Ender..if it isn't data on a disk then It gets tossed out if it isnt used....except that my wife never throws anything away and Im not allowed to toss her "junk" that is gathering dust  :P

Oh hey don't count on RAID as being a backup, RAID isnt a backup solution.
It helps alleviate single points of failure but you really need backups....if you dont have the DVD's on hand that is.  In my case I have a 12TB NAS device and a 8TB NAS as my front line storage with the DVD's sealed in bins with Humisorb as my backups)


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yea, i don't completely count on it as a back-up.  A lot of the movies I have on disk.  I just like having the raid in case of a single drive failure.  I don't have it all setup the way i want to yet.  I need some more space to properly do what I want.
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  Quote CStormO Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 23 Sep 2010 at 8:59pm
ok so im gonna go with the 932 now should i upgrade the fans? if so what ones are quiet but better and how many do i need
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  Quote !ender_ Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 23 Sep 2010 at 9:09pm
932 fans dont need any help, leave them stock
 
they are quiet too
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