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    Posted: 31 May 2011 at 9:05pm
I have had a good experience searching and customizing a custom computer through Digital Storm. They were very helpful in balancing performance vs cost. They were able to quote me Ticket #544977 within my price range.

I do
think, however, that I have the skills to build a computer myself. I have previously cobbled together a system with extra parts laying around my uncles house (a computer geek) with his help. Between that and the power of the internet, I think I can achieve my ambition.

*edit*@
maxyme
Building my own PC from scratch is something I would love to do. This build would be a possible one I would try on my own.

As such, I was hoping to reach out to the Digital Storm community to help me dissect my current build, and frankly let me know if I my ambitions are too high.


Your budget
Approximately $2,000
I am trying to switch over from two old laptops to one desktop unit.

 
Use for your computer
I am a moderate/hardcore gamer and my fiance is a art major.
75% Gaming, 25% Photo/Video Editing

 
Special needs:
Lots of CPU and video power to support gaming (Bad Company 2, Fable III, next generation games,etc.) and photoshop/premier
Lots of Hard Drive Space for lots of photos, videos, games
Hard Drives fail :( so protection from failing drives
Tight(ish) budget so making it myself and playing with RAID and Overclocking


*edit* THIS IS AN OLD BUILD, I am leaving it up to see improvements.
See post below for current build
Current Build:
Component Brand Model Details Price URL
Computer Case Cooler Master  HAF 932
$154.48 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160&cm_re=coolmaster_haf_932-_-11-119-160-_-Product
Power Supply Corsair  TX750W 750-Watt 750 Watt $109.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006&cm_re=corsair_tx750w-_-17-139-006-_-Product
CPU Intel  Core i7 2600k Unlocked $314.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070&cm_re=intel_core_i7_2600k-_-19-115-070-_-Product
CPU Cooling Corsair  CWCH70 Liquid $104.81 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181013&Tpk=corsair%20CWCH70
Motherboard ASUS Rampage III
$284.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131666&cm_re=asus_rampage_iii-_-13-131-666-_-Product
Memory Corsair  CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B 8 GB DDR3 $89.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145345&Tpk=corsair%20CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B
Hard Drive 1 Corsair  CSSD-F40GB2 F40 40 GB OS $109.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233130&Tpk=corsair%20CSSD-F40GB2%20F40
Hard Drive 2 Western Digital WD20EARS 4 TB* DATA $79.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136514&cm_re=western_digital_WD20EARS-_-22-136-514-_-Product
Hard Drive 3 Western Digital WD20EARS 4 TB* DATA $79.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136514&cm_re=western_digital_WD20EARS-_-22-136-514-_-Product
Hard Drive 4 Western Digital WD20EARS 4 TB* DATA $79.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136514&cm_re=western_digital_WD20EARS-_-22-136-514-_-Product
Hard Drive 5 Western Digital WD20EARS 4 TB* DATA $79.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136514&cm_re=western_digital_WD20EARS-_-22-136-514-_-Product
Video Card Gigabyte GV-N550OC-1GI GeForce GTX 550 Ti GTX 550Ti $147.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125367&Tpk=gigabyte%20GV-N550OC-1GI%20GeForce%20GTX%20550%20Ti
Sound Card Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme
$48.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102007&cm_re=Sound_Blaster_X-Fi_Xtreme-_-29-102-007-_-Product
Wireless Card ASUS PCE-N13
$27.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320048&Tpk=asus%20PCE-N13
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7
$99.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986
Keyboard Logitech G110
$64.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823126087&Tpk=logitech%20g110
Monitor Samsung 2333T
$169.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001463&Tpk=samsung%202333T
Bluetooth IOGear GBU421
$15.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833139019&Tpk=IOGEAR%20GBU421
DVD Burner LiteOn iHAS424-98 Lightscribe $24.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106335&cm_re=lightscribe-_-27-106-335-_-Product






Total


$2,090.12
*edit* Shipping: $50 (ish)

So, not written in this is as follows:
-I plan to install the Operating System to the SSD and leave it otherwise alone
-RAID 1+0 for performance and data security. The RAID doesn't seem "too" difficult but requires reading of motherboard booklet
-Overclock the CPU. The overclocking can be set by this motherboard. My only concern is the Liquid cooling may not be up to par, but many of the higher systems are very expensive and seem very difficult
-Comparability issues are a concern, although I tried my best not to match up the square peg with the round hole
-Buying all the components separately I fear I might cry when I find i am missing a crucial wire or two

I would appreciate any input on this build, and thoughts to improve it. Trust me, you really won't hurt my feelings if you think that this is too challenging or that I should really leave it up to the professionals. I relish a challenge, but, not the extent that I fry $2,000 worth of equipment.

tl,dr: Look at above build, laugh, proceed to be constructive/troll

Respectfully,
ImperiumLaw


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  Quote maxyme Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 May 2011 at 9:28pm
so you are building it yourself? i'm confused.

i'd switch the h70 to the noctua d14 or up12 (or something round there always forget the exact name)

that many hdds? ok... lol go with intel ssds. they last longer and have better performance.

go with the new corsair tx 750 it has longer cables and is the same price. also slightly better efficianncy. also i've heard the original might make a high pitched noise... i wouldn't know i got v2.

with the hdds i'd upgrade when you need it and save some money there. raid 0 is just dumb. just saying it. putting 2 ssds in raid 0 ok i can see it but a hdd is just dumb. if you want a faster hdd get a ssd don't waste money on getting 2x hdd to use the space of one and performance gains (that aren't exactly great compared to ssds).
sound card depends on what speakers/headset you have. many headsets are usb and won't use sound cards. others will...
this build is ok but heres what i'd change. ditch a few hdds change to a cheaper air cooler that does just as well as the lclc by corsair its just bigger and slightly more of a pain to put stuff in and move stuff around (i've cut myself over 10 times on my hyper212+ which is a great cooler and if you put 2 fans on it will get you around 4.5ghz and its only $25!

your rig is a little exessive and where it matters your skimping. the most important part of any gaming rig is the gpu and cpu. the cpu you have is great but the gpu so so... the 550 is a good card for below 1080p gaming in 1080p you need at least the 560 ti (note at the very least) it will get you a lot of power but not enough to run max settings on even games nowdays... With your budget i would reccomend amd graphics. from my experiance they are more of a pita with drivers but are much cheaper than nvidia. but they also don't have cuda encoding (using the gpu in premire to speed up encoding)
the radeon 6950 2gb is a very good card (its what i got) and very overclockable (but if your overclocking you might want to look into getting the twin frozr 3 by msi) . I like that you are going the route of building your own. i did too a few months ago. its very fun. i was up till 1am making mine but it was fun lol and interesting.
if i were you i'd ditch about half of the hdds you had and get a better gpu. because for 75% gaming the gpu is the most important component, and in your rig its the weakest. the goal in building a computer isn't to make the best of one thing and ok with something else, its to make the most well ballanced rig you can, and right now yours is a bit offballence. btw sorry for misspellings i blame chrome's spell check and can't use firefox since it has a memory leak that uses 6 of my 8gb of ram...
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  Quote ImperiumLaw Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 May 2011 at 9:53pm
@maxyme

-For switching the H70 Corsair Liquid cooling to the Noctuna, what would be the advantage of doing so?

-When you say original whistled your meant the TX750 or HAF 932?

-The multiple HDD's argument is as follows:
The SSD would run the OS solely to boost the speed at which it reads/writes, SSD are expensive so I figured I could incorporate it in the the core PC background.
I have had HDD's fail and its very expensive to recover off of. I figured the 4TB of space RAID 1+0 would both be redundant for data protection but also boost performance some. Doing some internet research indicated that might be a decent option. Agreed 4 HDD's seems like a lot but I am not sure of the better option, losing data = really bad day :(

-Sound Card was cheap and allowed for future sound invested, but could go

-Thanks for the video card idea, should I go any higher on the video card above the GeForce 560ti? I really get confused on the Video Card front. To be honest my brain (and budget) says go AMD but everyone edges Intel and nVidia for everything.

-Off topic, Firefox Memory Leak ??? (more info?)


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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 May 2011 at 9:55pm
I got to be honest, I would never recommend that ticket number, its not optimized at all.

what res you gaming at?

those so called lc systems like the H70 and aseteck and etc are not real lc systems, as in you can't get real lc performance out of them, a noctua nh u12 or D14 or the A70 can give you better performance.

I get hdd2 in raid 1+0, keep in mind its still not a 100% full proof, I see you know you need 4 hdds to do that. Personally I just clone twice a week, it takes 2 drives (one is the source drive the other is the destination), its not instant upto date but at worst I'm 2 or 3 days behind.

all ssds are not the same, the one you want is intel 320, normally you put the os/app/games on the ssd cause they benefit from it, a 120GB should be enough for all that, the rest gets saved on a larger slower drive as hdd2.

lol I'm dying to see you put the 2600K on that mobo, it would be magic.

I see your res now, 1900 x 1050, for that res go single 570, and chose the 850w corsair hx so you can go sli 570 down the road, that psu is like a 1000w, you can do sli 580 if you wanted to with it.
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  Quote maxyme Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 May 2011 at 10:08pm
Originally posted by ImperiumLaw


@maxyme-For switching the H70 Corsair Liquid cooling to the Noctuna, what would be the advantage of doing so?-When you say original whistled your meant the TX750 or HAF 932?-The multiple HDD's argument is as follows:The SSD would run the OS solely to boost the speed at which it reads/writes, SSD are expensive so I figured I could incorporate it in the the core PC background.I have had HDD's fail and its very expensive to recover off of. I figured the 4TB of space RAID 1+0 would both be redundant for data protection but also boost performance some. Doing some internet research indicated that might be a decent option. Agreed 4 HDD's seems like a lot but I am not sure of the better option, losing data = really bad day :(-Sound Card was cheap and allowed for future sound invested, but could go-Thanks for the video card idea, should I go any higher on the video card above the GeForce 560ti? I really get confused on the Video Card front. To be honest my brain (and budget) says go AMD but everyone edges Intel and nVidia for everything. -Off topic, Firefox Memory Leak ??? (more info?)

the h70 is more expensive and has worse performance than air cooling. very simple.
yea the tx i read some reviews it might and the newer version has longer cables and is more effecient and at the same price theres no downside.

listen to dst for the raid argument i don't know too much about raid.

with the sound card don't try and future proof your rig. technology will always be better in the future and its better off getting it when you need it.

with video cards it depends at what resolution you will be going at. since the monitor you linked is 1080p i would reccomend the gtx 570 or radeon 6950 for all max settings on current games. my 6950 (not yet overclocked) can run max on bfbc2 and every game i've thrown at it so far.

to go with intel theres a logical reason to go with it. hyperthreading. it lets 4 cores do what say 6 cores can by making 4 more "fake" cores. making the computer think there are 8 so boosting performance. amd doesn't have this.

With video cards its always a hard decision. amd and nvidia have about equal overclockability (maybe amd slightly more). nvidia has cuda as i stated in my first post, nvidia also has better drivers with less issues so with amd on catalist 11.2 i occasionally came home to my graphics driver crashed the screen frozen needing a hard restart. but nvidia charges a premium on their cards.. by a lot. amd changes what their cards are worth and sometimes $100 less for the same performance but with the ok drivers while nvidia has pretty good drivers..


and with firefox i don't know what the bug is but my firefox experiance always sucks. its hogging 4gb ram with like 30 tabs open (which yes is a lot) but firefox is always slow for me and chrome can handle 50 easily using less than a gig of ram...
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@ DST4ME

I got to be honest, I would never recommend that ticket number, its not optimized at all.
- Hard to optimize with a low budget (for custom gaming computers)

what res you gaming at?
-Whatever the monitor/equipment I get new for the computer can support (higher=better i thought...)

those so called lc systems like the H70 and aseteck and etc are not real lc systems, as in you can't get real lc performance out of them, a noctua nh u12 or D14 or the A70 can give you better performance.
-I will check the Noctua, price has been an issue for Liquid cooling, and for some reason air cooling seems uncool (LC = coolness?) :p

-I am not sure what you mean by HDD2, two HDD's or something else?

all ssds are not the same, the one you want is intel 320, normally you put the os/app/games on the ssd cause they benefit from it, a 120GB should be enough for all that, the rest gets saved on a larger slower drive as hdd2.
-Between two laptops we are maxing out our 640GB of space between gaming, music, photos, and video stuff. So 320 GB SSD for some and then maybe a 2TB + cloning for everything else?

lol I'm dying to see you put the 2600K on that mobo, it would be magic
-lulz because they aren't compatible, its a match made in heaven, the universe will implode if they touch?

I see your res now, 1900 x 1050, for that res go single 570, and chose the 850w corsair hx so you can go sli 570 down the road, that psu is like a 1000w, you can do sli 580 if you wanted to with it.
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uh...ok, I really don't understand video cards to save my life. If you could spell that out in stupid (my) speak it would be appreciated :)
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  Quote maxyme Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 May 2011 at 10:25pm
higher=better and you need a more expensive gpu.
thats not liquid cooling its low cost liquid cooling and lc is cool with the pipes everywhere and stuff but thats not real lc.

his res is 1920x1080 dst. and sli means double power (its just 2 graphics cards) but i don't think he will be needing sli
lol never noticed the rampage was the x58 version lol

Heres a list of all the motherboards you can use with the 2600k: Newegg Link

and don't even think of getting a msi mobo. i'm saving you hours even possibly days of trouble.

Edited by maxyme - 31 May 2011 at 10:26pm
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:(  as I think of all the hours that I spent slaving over the internets trying to be informed and not get ripped to threads on the forums.

lol

Anyhow, in terms of the mobo, how should I work to narrow down my choices? With video cards higher number = better, but all the mobo's contain lots of options.
 
What is the MSI mobo?

For the record, I am guessing that I picked a mobo incomparable with the i 2600k?

*groans* (while realizing I am noob in training when it comes to customizing computers)
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as for optimizing with a low budget, I meant I would take the same money from that build and come up with one that has better performance/reliability, I was not talking about spending more money.

as for air cooling goes, I could careless which is uncool, so will the pc, what it and I and you should care about is performance, when I see a noctua u12 or d14 or the a70, and say the h70 or lclc, right away respect goes to the noctua or the a70, in cpu cooling braging starts with temps first, whoever has better performance wins, in between those coolers, the air coolers win, and that is whats cool.

hdd1 or hdd2 are what we call the hdds on a system.

HDD1 refers to your first hdd/ssd that has the os on it.

HDD2 refers to the second drive in the system.

for hdd2 in your system you wnat to raid 4 hdds together, all those hdds will look like one hdd in your os, and it will be the second hdd (hdd2)

for example I have hdd 1 to 10:



ad for ssd, you misunderstood.

Intel is the make, 320 is the model, 120GB is the size.

you guys are running out of room cause you are putting everyting on hdd1 on both laptops.

however if you had a hdd2 for storage (internal/external), and you had set it up like this:

HDD1 = fast small drive: os/apps/games

HDD2 = regular large drive: media/personal/work file storage

then your hdd1 would not be so full.

I recommend:

hdd1 = intel 320 120GB ssd.

hdd2 = 1TB black caviar hdd for storage.

as you see from my pic, you can add as many hdds as you like (internal/external) so you have plenty of room for storage, if that 1TB get close to full, you just add another 1TB. Mean time you get a 1TB external for cloning, follow my guide it talks about cloning and externals:

you can follow my clone guide here

as for mobo, the 2600k is the p67 platform with socket 1155, the mobo you have chosen is a x58 platform with socket 1136, its gonna be interesting to see how 1155 pins go into 1136 socket , in short go with asus P8Z68-V PRO for sli ability.

for your resolution to play 90% of the games out there with max settings and good aa settings you would want sli 570, (2 x 570 gtx).

to run 2 x 570 gtx you need a power supply good enough to handle them, such power supply is the corsair 850w HX series. it can run 570 sli or 580 sli if wanted it too, the higher the gpu the more power it needs, in short if you can run sli 580 then you can run anything.

if you have more questions then ask.
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I by no means want to have other people do the leg work for me, but as you can see I know very little when it comes to building PC's. I am working within a budget (aren't we all) and it seems like building one myself (which given compatible parts Oops) I can do.

Since there is no "build your own custom PC from scratch" customizer, are there any good resources for doing this sort of thing? Most internet searches for this sort of thing turn up guides that are either too specific or not enough.

I am happy to keep bouncing ideas of the community, but I hate to waste other peoples time over questions that I am sure have been answered 1,000's of times before.Confused

Thanks for the help so far.


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  Quote maxyme Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 May 2011 at 10:53pm
newegg.com and us is a good resource lol and about 6 months ago i was a noob like you :P i chose a 5k build i wanted and ended up with a 1.3k build. you learn from the forum eventually. ender (an older member of the forums kinda gone now) wrote a guide thats a generation outdated but still has good ideas just much better parts are out heres a link to it: http://www.digitalstormonline.com/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=11911
keep in mind when it references specific parts ect they are mostly outdated but the basic principles still stand.
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I have not looked for a guide for a long time now to be honest.
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lol i totally forgot about it till now.
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In terms of cooling a (mildly) overclocked i7 2600k (maybe GPU and/or memory) will the Noctura d14 and the Coolmaster HAF932 be able to handle the heat generated?

Question still stands, how can I narrow my mobo choices down? The link provided has quite a few to choose although I was leaning toward ASUS since I have read that they make good mobos and overclockings pretty easy. But how to even further choose between the 20 ASUS that fit the i7?
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the d14 will be able to handle 4.5ghz+ the haf 932 is a very good case for air flow. haf stands for high air flow.

depends on what you want. for one video card you want one 16x pcie lane. for 6 hdd you want 6 sata connections. with a cd drive thats 7 sata connections. also read reviews they are very helpful.
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Just rereading the earlier posts for the video card.

If I understand correctly, I should look to SLI/Crossfire two nVidia 570gtx or two Radeon 6850 cards together? If so that seems a bit pricey, but perhaps I can look to drop some stuff.

Also, do I need to snag a bluetooth usb adapter, or does that come with the mobo?
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Alright. Build 2.0

Component Brand Model Details Price URL
Computer Case Cooler Master  HAF 932
$154.48 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160&cm_re=coolmaster_haf_932-_-11-119-160-_-Product
Power Supply Corsair  TX750 750 Watt $109.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139021
CPU Intel  Core i7 2600k Unlocked $314.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070&cm_re=intel_core_i7_2600k-_-19-115-070-_-Product
CPU Cooling Noctua NH-D14 Air $89.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608018
Motherboard ASUS P8P67
$229.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131701
Memory Corsair  CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B 8 GB DDR3 $89.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145345&Tpk=corsair%20CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B
Hard Drive 1 Intel 320 Series 120GB OS $219.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167050
Hard Drive 2 Western Digital WD1002FAEX 1 TB $89.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533
Hard Drive 3 Western Digital WD1002FAEX 1 TB Clone $89.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533
Video Card  1 ASUS EAH6850
Radeon HD 6850
$174.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121419
Video Card  2 ASUS EAH6850
Radeon HD 6850
$174.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121419
Sound Card Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme
$48.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102007&cm_re=Sound_Blaster_X-Fi_Xtreme-_-29-102-007-_-Product
Wireless Card ASUS PCE-N13
$27.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320048&Tpk=asus%20PCE-N13
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7
$99.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986
Keyboard Logitech G110
$64.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823126087&Tpk=logitech%20g110
Monitor Samsung 2333T
$169.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001463&Tpk=samsung%202333T
Bluetooth IOGear GBU421
$15.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833139019&Tpk=IOGEAR%20GBU421
DVD Burner LiteOn iHAS424-98 Lightscribe $24.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106335&cm_re=lightscribe-_-27-106-335-_-Product
Shipping


$50.00






Total


$2,242.31

Now a bit pricey, but seems to be refining down nicely.
I guess I could remove sound card and second video card and pick them up if performance dictates so, which the RAM was going to do anyway.

Thoughts?


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  Quote maxyme Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Jun 2011 at 12:14am
thats the mobo i should have gotten... mine was only $150 though (i found out why :P)

don't like the gpu choice. the 6850 has been outdone with the 6950. going single 6950 would be fine. but dst's and my standards are differant.
and with the ram 8gb is perfect for after fx and premire. to use multicore ram preview rendering on all cores you need 6gb free so if you have 8 that leaves 2 for the os and other apps.
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The os gives the ram to itself first, then whatever is left is left for apps and games, so in short you got 6GB for fx and other stuff.

I would recommend you forget ender's guides, he has holes in some of his ideas and I would not recommend anybody to his guides, some of the stuff if right but some is not.

If you want to play at highest settings with high aa, for some games you gonna need sli 570 or 6950, I like sli 570 cause it has more power.

for mobo go with ASUS P8Z68-V PRO, but change your psu to 850w corsair hx if you want to be able to do sli, then down the road if you see you want/need the sli for future games, add the second 570, keep in mind in a couple years you probably won't be able to find a second 570 and will have to upgrade gpu if you need more power.

but if you don't want to sli and want the p8p678 mobo here is a ram/mobo combo here (I love and have redline mushkin ram).

if you take your time and look for combos you will save lot of money

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  Quote maxyme Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Jun 2011 at 1:27am
ur prob right about the guide. you have to take it very lightly.
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  Quote RiceEatin2000GT Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Jun 2011 at 2:36am
LOL 10 HD that are super old is asking for a huge failure. Just toss them out and get a few 2-3 tb drives
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Actually 6 of them are new, ssd/ 4 x 500GB and 1 x 1TB BC, the other 4 I have been waiting for them to die but they won't, that 60GB is over 9 years old.
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  Quote ImperiumLaw Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Jun 2011 at 10:32am
Build 3.0

Component Brand Model Details Price URL
Computer Case Cooler Master  HAF 932
$154.48 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160&cm_re=coolmaster_haf_932-_-11-119-160-_-Product
Power Supply Corsair  TX850 850 Watt $134.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139022
CPU Intel  Core i7 2600k Unlocked $314.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070&cm_re=intel_core_i7_2600k-_-19-115-070-_-Product
CPU Cooling Noctua NH-D14 Air $89.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608018
Motherboard ASUS P8P67 Deluxe
$229.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131701
Memory Kingston KHX1600C9D3K4 16GB DDR31600 $174.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104169
Hard Drive 1 Intel 320 Series 120GB OS $239.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167050
Hard Drive 2 Western Digital WD1002FAEX 1TB DATA $89.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533
Hard Drive 3 Western Digital WD1002FAEX 1TB Clone $89.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533
Video Card  1 ASUS EAH6950DCII Radeon HD 6950 $269.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121437
Video Card  2 None



Sound Card None



Wireless Card None



Operating System Microsoft Windows 7
$99.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986
Keyboard Logitech G110
$64.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823126087&Tpk=logitech%20g110
Monitor Samsung 2333T
$169.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001463&Tpk=samsung%202333T
Bluetooth None



DVD Burner LiteOn iHAS424-98 Lightscribe $24.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106335&cm_re=lightscribe-_-27-106-335-_-Product
Shipping


$50.00






Total


$2,199.35


-Switched the power supply and video card to support future SLI support
-Bumped up to 16GB RAM
-Got rid of wireless card and bluetooth since it appears ASUS mobo builds that in

I think this has refined nicely although slightly over-budget. I think however that watching for sales and such will leave on target for my budget.

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Here, thought you might like to partake in this:



EDIT: That ad links to this drive, not sure if it works any other versions.


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  Quote KLPATS Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Jun 2011 at 4:02pm
The Haf 932 advanced is on amazon for the same price at the moment, but it applies for free shipping through them. The Deluxe motherboard and the HX850 can be used as a combo right now and only ends up slightly more expensive than the TX850 because some shipping is added with the HX series. The Corsair A70 is $46.24 with a $15 mail-in rebate and can be combined with the 2600k for $10 more off. With that kind of price difference it may be worth considering the A70 over the Noctua.

Definitely make sure that any equivalent items aren't available with free shipping for anything currently adding to shipping cost.
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  Quote Dragoonseal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Jun 2011 at 4:38pm
Originally posted by KLPATS

The Corsair A70 is $46.24 with a $15 mail-in rebate and can be combined with the 2600k for $10 more off. With that kind of price difference it may be worth considering the A70 over the Noctua.

I agree. I love my Noctua D14, but it is kind of overqualified for a budget 2600K build. A Corsair A70 or the smaller Noctua U12P will perform similarly for much cheaper.
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