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Post Date: 2019-12-18

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    Posted: 18 Dec 2019 at 10:22pm
Budget:
Flexible

Expectations:
Reliable Computer, (Both for Work/Gaming Needs)

Usage:
Gaming/VR (Possibly), Home PC

Special Needs:
The Computer needs to be able to act as a home computer, as well as a gaming computer. The location where the Computer will be located will also be quite dusty, so any modifications will help there as well. I am that new to the Digital Storm building thing, so any help would be appreciated as I have a sneaking suspicion that this build is overkill in the graphics card.

Saved Ticket #: 2779173


Specifications:
Chassis Model: Digital Storm Lumos
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X (16-Core) 4.7 GHz Turbo (ETA END OF DECEMBER)
Motherboard: ASUS PRIME X570-P (AMD X570 Chipset) (Up to 2x PCI-E Devices) (No SLI Support)
System Memory: 32GB DDR4 3000MHz Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro (RGB Light Bar) <br><strong></strong>
Power Supply: 850W Corsair RM850x (Fully Modular) <br><strong></strong>
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Optical Drive: - No Thanks
Storage Set 1: 1x SSD M.2 (512GB Samsung 970 PRO) (NVM Express) (Extreme Performance) <br><strong></strong>
Storage Set 2: 1x Storage (2TB Seagate / Toshiba / Hitachi)
Storage Set 3: - No Thanks
RAID Config: - No Thanks
RAID Card: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8GB (VR Ready) <br><strong></strong>
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
HPC Processor: - No Thanks
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Corsair H100i PRO - 240mm Liquid CPU Cooler (Fully Sealed + No Maintenance) <br><strong></strong>
HydroLux Tubing Style: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected
HydroLux Fluid Color: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected
Cable Management: Exotic Cable Management - White - (Cable Combs with Custom Color Sleeved Extension Cables) <br><strong></strong>
Chassis Fans: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Remote Controlled Advanced LED Lighting System (Multiple RGB Color Modes) <br><strong></strong>
Airflow Control: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: Option Not Available
Boost Processor: Stock Factory Turbo Boost Advanced Automatic Overclocking
Boost Graphics Card(s): Yes, Overclock the video card(s) as much as possible with complete stability <br><strong></strong>
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: USB Drive - Windows 10 Installation (Format and Clean Install)
Virus Protection: Windows Defender Antivirus (Built-in to Windows 10)
Office: - No Thanks
Mouse Pad: - No Thanks
Display: ASUS 24 inch VP248QG (75Hz Refresh) (1ms Response) (1920x1080) <br><strong></strong>
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
Branded Gear: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Part Replacement)
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  Quote Cretae Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Dec 2019 at 4:55am
You've given no indication that you would benefit from all that CPU power. You have hundreds of dollars there that will all be wasted in gaming, and will only be used for highly specialized heavy number crunching tasks. For instance, video encoding, or highly intense and frequent photo editing. What happens is that processes you have asked the software to execute simply happen faster. Unless those processes are highly detailed and frequent, the speedier processing won't be very noticeable.

Games are basically "dumbed down". Game designers and publishers are most interested in selling as many games as they possibly can. They make sure their game can run on pretty basic equipment so folks who've not upgraded in awhile will be able to run it. The vast majority of all games in existance will run on one core. Many will benefit from more cores. Pretty sure most games released in the last 5-6 years recommend dual core minimum. There are more recent and more complex games out that will run mostly of the time on one core, but will also benefit from more than two cores and threads if they are present. These games would be hindered by a 2-core CPU, perform well on a 4-core, and perhaps benefit a bit from six cores. Beyond that, you're getting into "future proofing". The best bet is eight cores/threads will serve you in gaming until your rig is obsolete. The change is slow to bring along the largest market.

More important for gaming is speed. For whatever reason, DS does not overclock AMD processors. They are very experienced at overclocking Intel procs. Simply put, since the majority of those 16 cores and 32 threads you selected would go to waste, the Intel 9700K would actually out perform it. Overclock it, and it would perform extremely well in a variety of tasks, but especially in gaming. It's a gamer's chip as is the 9900K and 9900KS.

The monitor you have selected will not benefit much from the 2070 SUPER. The best fit (and excellent performance in all games) is the 2060 SUPER. It will deliver at 75 Hz at very high settings.

We don't recommend overclocking video cards without separate liquid cooling. They tend to run pretyy hot at stock speed. The overclock is mild, not dangerous, but it will make the GPU fans run longer and more often, and they tend to be loud.

You might take a look at this config for AMD, more cores, and the RAM you want. It gets to $3000 + for the $300 off.

Config ID 2786127 (Left out the free Internal lighting; add that
                   if you want it)

On the Intel side, try:

Config ID 2786132

Same deal, gets to the $300 discount.

Either build will be great for gaming, and highly capable for everything else you do, even photo and video editing. The 32 GB of RAM will be a great help if you do any of that.

To view the configs, go to the top right of the forum page, and copy and paste the config # into the window that opens when you click "view config".



Hope it helps.

Edited by Cretae - 19 Dec 2019 at 5:14am
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  Quote ninjasteve Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Dec 2019 at 6:58pm
Thank You! I'm not that good at selecting what to build so I usually went with the 'bigger is better' belief, so this is really insightful.
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  Quote ninjasteve Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Dec 2019 at 7:06pm
Um also, if I was to pull the trigger on the AMD build, (2786127), do I need any special insructions for DS? And Also, if the area where I'm placing the PC will be dusty, are there any modifications I can make to the machine to slow any dust buildup besides cleaning it?
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  Quote Cretae Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Dec 2019 at 3:39am
The Lumos is the case I prefer of the selections they have now. It may not be the very best for keeping out dust, I'm not entirely sure; I don't have one. Fact is, dust will plague you no matter what case you get, but it's not too tough to handle if you don't let it build up too much and the Lumos is pretty easy to get into and is roomy to work in. Compressed air can be a big help.

The Lumos has mesh screens/filters all around to catch as much dust as possible and keep it off your components. Those lines and hexagons you can see in the pics are durable mesh filters.

As far as special instructions, I can't think of any. Just remember to select the internal lighting in that build if you want it, because I forgot that bit. It's an LED strip they place around the inside edge of the case that can display a vast variety of color combos via a remote control. It can flash, chase, glow, display one color only, or be turned off entirely. It's free, so most everyone gets it.

I included the Corsair LL Series RGB case fans in the builds mostly to hit the $3000 threshold for the extra $100 discount. That makes the fan upgrade essentially half price and they show off really well in the Lumos case with all that tempered glass. You download free software from Corsair called iCue to control the colors on those any way you wish.
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