Buying a new PC - Need advice opinionsPost Date: 2021-05-02 |
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Vitopanchnew
Newbie Joined: 02 May 2021 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
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Topic: Buying a new PC - Need advice opinions Posted: 02 May 2021 at 3:40pm |
Folks, I have purchased four DS PC's in the past and have been very pleased. The one that I am replacing is a 2009 I7.I wish to spend $2500.00. I will use it primarily for Everquest,an RPG. I will be driving three logons and managing three avatars that way. For that are not familiar with it it is a 22 year old RPG and is very, very heavy on graphics especially with a hundred or so avatars in the same area.casting spells, etc..and heavy server loads. I was looking at config 3568015, which Cretae suggested to someone. I would like to know if this config is still the recommendation and I also have specific questions/concerns, perhaps unfounded. I have always used Intel but see that AMD I now recommended. Is that still the case? I have never had liquid cooled and see that it can be problematic according to forum posts. Is that rare because I can not have down time dealing with it and is it a viable option to just have fan cooled? I have always used a sound card but see that this config is using integrated motherboard audio. Is that the trend now and is that recommended? The config offers three monitors. I am considering MSI 24 inch MAG24C. Are there any thoughts about this monitor. I will appreciate any comments, thoughts and/or guidance. Michael |
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MrButters
Groupie Joined: 25 Jun 2016 Online Status: Offline Posts: 124 |
Quote Reply Posted: 03 May 2021 at 1:08am |
I would downgrade the processor to the lowest option available, the Ryzen 5 5600X. You save $20, and it's a newer generation processor. Everything else seems fine.... the liquid cooling option that you chose works well, as there's zero maintenance. And no, you don't need a sound card. Sounds cards haven't really been necessary since probably the 90s. Any hit on processor performance today is negligible and not worth the extra cost, and onboard audio is actually quite good now where it would take an audio professional or someone in music to notice any slight difference there might be.
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Cretae
DS Veteran Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 7328 |
Quote Reply Posted: 03 May 2021 at 4:35am |
I agree with MrButters that the newer proc is a better choice for you. It will not hold you back in any way for years to come. In addition, it enables the stock AMD Wraith fan cooling as a safe option because it draws less power and runs cooler. The problem with liquid cooling here is all in the custom loops. The all-in-ones are very stable, efficient, and trouble free. Mine is 3.4 years old with no issues, and I run it 24/7. The only problem is they will likely falter at some time before your rig is done, and have to be replaced. The fan may go a good while longer. "May go"....
The issue with AMD vs Intel for the moment is that Intel Gen 10 CPUs are locked into the now obsolete PCIe Generation 3. PCIe 4 is double the bandwidth and enables better performance with PCIe 4 storage like the Firecuda. It will enable correct performance on all parts you might upgrade in the future. Intel Gen 11 (Rocketlake) procs are PCIe 4, but remain unavailable here because of supply issues. AMD's Zen 3 (5000 series) CPUs are not just as good as 10th gen Intel, they are actually better in some respects. The convenience of ordering a monitor here is a thing, but you may pay too much. There are many high refresh rate 24" 1080p monitors available lower than that price. Just Google "1080p 144Hz 24 inch ips" to see a bunch including Acer, Asus, and even a better curved MCI for less. If you are using 1080p monitors, the RTX 3070 is way more than you'll ever need. The high-end killer card at that res is the 3060 Ti. It will even give you up to 100 fps in many games at 1440p. Motherboard audio has vastly improved over the years, and is all you need for excellent sound. Here is a sample build to look at: 3891074 $2232 It includes the changes you might consider. Assuming you have a hard drive or two you will migrate over, I replaced the HDD with an SSD. For $55 it's a worthy upgrade. be cautious of ordering more storage here, however, the larger drives are very pricy. Questions? |
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Vitopanchnew
Newbie Joined: 02 May 2021 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
Quote Reply Posted: 04 May 2021 at 2:59pm |
First and foremost, thank you. You folks provide a wonderful service. I am going with the recommended build as soon as my government check arrives. Michael
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Cretae
DS Veteran Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 7328 |
Quote Reply Posted: 05 May 2021 at 3:20am |
We are pleased to have helped.
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