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    Posted: 17 Aug 2009 at 2:23pm
If I wanted to buy a desktop from here and install my own operating system, what disadvantages would I face by opting to not have an OS installed from Digital Storm?  The option on the configuration page states:
 
"No thanks.  Please test my memory.  I will be responsible for software-based support - $180".
 
Does this mean my hardware components aren't tested?  I understand no software will be loaded for the hardware, but how can DS confirm the installed hardware works?  Do they have a basic, preconfigured hard drive that they can use to test any system?  And before you ask, I like to install my own Operating System (from custom-made OS creations), which is why I am asking this question.  Thanks for any help and clarification!
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  Quote Dave881 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Aug 2009 at 9:49am
What I'm guessing is that you'll have to install the OS (obviously) and the required drivers for the hardware you've selected with your custom system. Also, I'm not sure if it'll go through their stress testing, and I don't think they'll be able to run benchmark tools.

Though, you shouldn't take my word for it, as I don't know exactly what it is they do, but that's just my guess. Hope this helps. :)

Good luck!
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  Quote Hot120 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Aug 2009 at 10:22am
Thanks for the reply Dave.  You would think someone from DS would have responded to this.  I didn't want to waste a phone call or send an official email when I could just make a post on here.
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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Aug 2009 at 2:06pm

@Hot120,

We do our best to answer/reply to posts in our forums but, they were solely created for users to communicate to each other and to form a community.
 
Any customer/potential customer that wishes for an official answer should contact us directly either via our toll-free number or send us a message using our message system.
 
Reason why is that we are focusing all of our resources to help customers that are calling us or sending us messages, and then, when we have a chance, our staff tries to help on the forums such as myself, Sarah, or Venom.
 
Now, to answer your question, we would simply plug in an OS hard drive, test the hardware, and unplug it.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Aug 2009 at 2:06pm
DS does not provide support officialy on the forum.

if you don't provide the OS, they won't oc your system and such cause they can't test it.

thats from what I understand.
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  Quote easytarget Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Aug 2009 at 2:37pm
Originally posted by Alex

@Hot120,

We do our best to answer/reply to posts in our forums but, they were solely created for users to communicate to each other and to form a community.
 
Any customer/potential customer that wishes for an official answer should contact us directly either via our toll-free number or send us a message using our message system.
 
Reason why is that we are focusing all of our resources to help customers that are calling us or sending us messages, and then, when we have a chance, our staff tries to help on the forums such as myself, Sarah, or Venom.
 
Now, to answer your question, we would simply plug in an OS hard drive, test the hardware, and unplug it.
 
if you can plug a drive w/ an o/s in to test hardware, an o/c could be tested as well could it not?
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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Aug 2009 at 3:11pm
Actually, yes, we can test overclocks, etc since we are plugging in an OS hard drive. But, not video card overclocks since they are done within Windows and not the BIOS like your processor/memory.
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  Quote easytarget Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Aug 2009 at 3:29pm

very cool, thx for the quick reply

sorry for one more follow up question, but just had to ask, i'd assume the driver disks for the various hardware devices would come with the system, right?
 
i.e. the config i've been working on would include the x-fi fatality w/ front panel, so the driver disk that came with that device would be included in the box, correct? 
 
i'm considering purchase w/o o/s simply because despite the hassle, it's hard for me not to weigh the option since i've got a MSDN subscription
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Aug 2009 at 4:56pm
I was told by a rep that they didn't do it without an os.

thanks for clearing that up Alex.
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  Quote Hot120 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Aug 2009 at 3:18am
easytarget, that is what I want to do.  I work for the government and have access to the newest, latest software, so saving almost $200 just for an Operating System makes sense to me.  I figured it was a generic hard drive that they use to test a computer system.  Thanks for all the replies.
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  Quote easytarget Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Aug 2009 at 9:17am
Yep, like I said, it's at least worth considering.
 
But I do need to know they send disks for the hardware installed, since I'll be loading the drivers myself. 
 
While I can track them down on the net, it'd be nice to know all the stuff that comes in the retail boxes for the components from the build arrives with the system.
 
That way at least I know i can get it up and running straight out of the box w/o playing hide and seek on the net.  When you get a new system, even one w/o an o/s, you'd like to think what's showing up will be (should be) sufficient nonetheless to get it up and running.  That's my expectation any way, and what I'm trying to confirm in this thread. Hug


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  Quote Hot120 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Aug 2009 at 10:35am
easytarget, not sure about that one.  I know you normally get the DVD-based installation disk, but with no OS installed, you may only get the install disks for the various hardware components.
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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Aug 2009 at 10:41am
Yes we do.
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  Quote easytarget Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Aug 2009 at 10:54am

Thought that might be the case, excellent to hear.

Thank you Alex.
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  Quote venom Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Aug 2009 at 10:53pm
The government has the latest software? Haha!  That's funny since the last .gov box I saw was running Windows NT...
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  Quote Hot120 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Aug 2009 at 4:00am
@ Venom.  I'm in the military.  I have hook-ups for all the software that is run on government computers.  We get test samples all the time, and making a quick copy of a software disk is the norm.  All government computers are running XP, and if Windows 7 proves to be as stable as it seems, I see the military rolling over to W7 within the next year.
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