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   So my parts finally got here, I ordered 

Kama Bay Mount
swapped in a 
Scythe Slipstream
and clipped on my
Dominator Fans
First I had to blow out some dust... the main disadvantage to the 450i/Raidmax case open air design. Once a month does the trick though, well worth it for the temperatues. First was the Dominator fans, The design of the fan bracket itself is solid

The airflow seems quite good, especially considering the size of the fans (40mm), the only real problem with them is that the brackets are made to fit around the thumbtabs at the base of the ram and the fit is weak at best, they rely soley on the verticle fit, meaning a decent jolt to the case would likely pop them right off. There should definately be some rubber feet or something along the lines to increase the friction... but I guess if you arent moving the computer around much then it wont matter.

Next was the Kama Bay mount. I must say there have been few things (short of plugging in a clock radio) that were easier to install. The directions were all in japanese... which obviously didn't help, so its a good thing i didnt need them!

It is designed to work in tool-less cases, and I've read that some people had problems with the fit. Luckily, my fit like it was made for the case, no finagling at all. I did take out the plastic webbed filter and cut a peice off to place under the fan so the mount wasnt resting directly on the 5.25x5 cage, to reduce noise.

Speaking of noise, both of these products are shockingly quiet. The bay mount isnt more than a foot away from my knee and I can't even hear a difference from the case. It really moves air too, it very easily holds a sheet of paper, I'm sure it would do much more.
Ok, I know, shut up and show the results already!
Idle temps: (the "before" is before i removed the covers for the 5.25 slots)
Hardware     Before      After
Q6600           35-38        28-33
88GTS512     65-68        58-61

Peak load under PCMark before: 69  (66 avg)
Peak load under PCMark after:   60!!!!!  (57 avg)

Peak load under Everest before: 71
Peak load under Everest after:  66 

You can see in the 3rd pic the logic behind the dramatic drop, there is a straight shot from front to back with one 120mm pointing into the next forcing a large air capacity through the CPU heatsink. 

Side note, I would highly reccomend the kama mount, especially to anyone using a 450/raidmax case like this one, very much worth the cost!

Now the pictures!

Edited by !ender_ - 19 Jun 2008 at 12:29pm

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!ender_ Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List DS Veteran Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 4219	Quote Reply Topic: Case Mod w/ Pics! Posted: 19 Jun 2008 at 12:01pm
	So my parts finally got here, I ordered Kama Bay Mount swapped in a Scythe Slipstream and clipped on my Dominator Fans First I had to blow out some dust... the main disadvantage to the 450i/Raidmax case open air design. Once a month does the trick though, well worth it for the temperatues. First was the Dominator fans, The design of the fan bracket itself is solid The airflow seems quite good, especially considering the size of the fans (40mm), the only real problem with them is that the brackets are made to fit around the thumbtabs at the base of the ram and the fit is weak at best, they rely soley on the verticle fit, meaning a decent jolt to the case would likely pop them right off. There should definately be some rubber feet or something along the lines to increase the friction... but I guess if you arent moving the computer around much then it wont matter. Next was the Kama Bay mount. I must say there have been few things (short of plugging in a clock radio) that were easier to install. The directions were all in japanese... which obviously didn't help, so its a good thing i didnt need them! It is designed to work in tool-less cases, and I've read that some people had problems with the fit. Luckily, my fit like it was made for the case, no finagling at all. I did take out the plastic webbed filter and cut a peice off to place under the fan so the mount wasnt resting directly on the 5.25x5 cage, to reduce noise. Speaking of noise, both of these products are shockingly quiet. The bay mount isnt more than a foot away from my knee and I can't even hear a difference from the case. It really moves air too, it very easily holds a sheet of paper, I'm sure it would do much more. Ok, I know, shut up and show the results already! Idle temps: (the "before" is before i removed the covers for the 5.25 slots) Hardware Before After Q6600 35-38 28-33 88GTS512 65-68 58-61 Peak load under PCMark before: 69 (66 avg) Peak load under PCMark after: 60!!!!! (57 avg) Peak load under Everest before: 71 Peak load under Everest after: 66 You can see in the 3rd pic the logic behind the dramatic drop, there is a straight shot from front to back with one 120mm pointing into the next forcing a large air capacity through the CPU heatsink. Side note, I would highly reccomend the kama mount, especially to anyone using a 450/raidmax case like this one, very much worth the cost! Now the pictures! Edited by !ender_ - 19 Jun 2008 at 12:29pm

Tyler Lowe Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 14 May 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 0	Quote Reply Posted: 19 Jun 2008 at 12:14pm
	Very nice !ender. Your results closer match my own with this type of front modification. It might be wothwhile to post the temps of your hottest core in addition to your CPU reading so people have something more to directly compare. I am also interested in load temps, as this is what really counts. Keep us posted on your results. I would recommend a similar mod to anyone with a 750 case. The increase in intake is a welcome shift in any case where you suspect the components are airflow starved.

!ender_ Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List DS Veteran Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 4219	Quote Reply Posted: 19 Jun 2008 at 12:21pm
	haha you must have caught me inbetween edits. i wasnt done! ..... now i have to decide if i want to take full advantage of this and OC more that whole smart saying about leaving well enough alone... never really got through to me Edited by !ender_ - 19 Jun 2008 at 12:31pm

!ender_ Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List DS Veteran Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 4219	Quote Reply Posted: 19 Jun 2008 at 2:07pm
	mem cooling its more preventative than tangible, its safer to push ram harder with more direct cooling

SunfighterLC Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List DS Veteran Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1527	Quote Reply Posted: 19 Jun 2008 at 2:38pm
	What do you use to blow out the dust? my Cosmos S is really open air too..
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!ender_ Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List DS Veteran Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 4219	Quote Reply Posted: 19 Jun 2008 at 3:34pm
	yea the safest way is to use a vaccum, one made for computers or an attachment to your normal one, i just take my case outside, remove both side panels, and blow every bit of it out, best to do when theres something of a breeze to catch all your fuzzies

Tyler Lowe Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 14 May 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 0	Quote Reply Posted: 21 Jun 2008 at 12:14am
	So what's next !ender? Are you going to stick with that AC7 or move up to something more serious?

!ender_ Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List DS Veteran Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 4219	Quote Reply Posted: 21 Jun 2008 at 5:32am
	ive acually been debating that tonight, im currently hitting fsb 395 ram 1054 5-5-5-15 1.5 2.2 1.3 and getting these results im so close to getting by at 400 fsb but i crash on any of the last 3 pcmark tests.. so ive been debating going higher on voltage or what... id only consider a stronger cpu heatsink if i can get stable at 400 or over it, since the temps arent even in a risky range while pc mark shows an increase, everest results seem to be more of a sidegrade than an upgrade TEST 4 Core Voltage 1.468 V Ram Voltage 2.160 V CPU Clock 3402.0 MHz (original: 2400 MHz, overclock: 42%) CPU Multiplier 9x CPU FSB 378.0 MHz (original: 266 MHz, overclock: 42%) Memory Bus 562.5 MHz DRAM:FSB Ratio 12:8 Core Temps M/Mx 34 / 67 Memory Read 9131 MB/s Memory Write 6900 MB/s Memory Copy 7445 MB/s Memory Latency 53.3 ns CPU Queen 24489 CPU Photoworks 22524 CPU ZLib 89375 KB/s CPU AES 25414 FPU J 12623 FPU M 6226 FPU SJ 3184 TEST 5 Core Voltage 1.50 V Ram Voltage 2.20 V CPU Clock 3554.9 MHz (original: 2400 MHz, overclock: 48%) CPU Multiplier 9x CPU FSB 395.0 MHz (original: 266 MHz, overclock: 42%) Memory Bus 526.6 MHz DRAM:FSB Ratio 16:12 Memory Read 8757 MB/s Memory Write 7207 MB/s Memory Copy 7442 MB/s Memory Latency 58.5 ns CPU Queen 25582 CPU Photoworks 20771 CPU ZLib 93353 KB/s CPU AES 26511 FPU J 13173 FPU M 6500 FPU SJ 3325 peak temp with everest was 71 over 3 tests Edited by !ender_ - 21 Jun 2008 at 6:15am

balle Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Digital Storm Apprentice Joined: 08 Oct 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1358	Quote Reply Posted: 23 Jun 2008 at 6:38pm
	Wow! Not bad, 7 degrees cooler. Love the cleansiness

Nickdapimp Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 324	Quote Reply Posted: 29 Jun 2008 at 5:07am
	Watercooling and your problems are over >_<


Nickdapimp Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 324	Quote Reply Posted: 01 Jul 2008 at 10:12am
	wow thats a big drop in temp for those fans, hows the memory fan? I'm getting one and need all the feedback I can get for it lol


!ender_ Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List DS Veteran Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 4219	Quote Reply Posted: 02 Jul 2008 at 1:08am
	little more to say than whats posted, i mean its passive so theres not much to measure, but the installation is a breeze

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