Comming New From ATIPost Date: 2009-09-13 |
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<8) slunK parade 
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 Topic: Comming New From ATIPosted: 13 Sep 2009 at 3:19am |
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whos gonna play on6 monitors, would get so annoying with the black rectangles all thru the screen, were the monitors edges are
i want some damn #'s not multidisplay functions |
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inferno23
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Posted: 13 Sep 2009 at 3:15pm |
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yes very gay whatever hes playing the guy in the 4 wheelers cut in half worthless id not pay a peeny for it
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justin.kerr
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Posted: 14 Sep 2009 at 2:19pm |
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This technology is really something, edgeless monitors will make it useable.
As far as #'s go here is some early numbers, i7, 6 Gb ram, the 5870 seems to do well at high res, and high eye candy.
With mature drivers, the new ATI cards should do very well.
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notalent
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Posted: 14 Sep 2009 at 3:16pm |
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Hmmm...are those numbers from AMD? Looks like the color scheme.
Anyway, I game at 1920x1200 and most of those numbers are disappointing considering all the hype I've heard. People saying it is 50% faster than an 4870X2 and faster than GTX295. The only advantage I see getting one of these instead of the 295 is much better power management. |
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justin.kerr
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Posted: 14 Sep 2009 at 3:28pm |
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and much cheaper... Directx 11. Most performance #'s I have seen put the 5870 close to the performance of (2) 4890's. That is a huge gain in performance for one generation.
With mature drivers the 5870 at high res should match or beat the GTX 295 in most games. If you need more performance then go for the 5870x2 or wait for Nvidia
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DST4ME
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Posted: 14 Sep 2009 at 6:40pm |
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but instead of 295 you spend less and get 2 x 275 and that will beat both of them.
also what is the source of those benchmarks? it does look like its from amd/ati. |
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Landaulet
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Posted: 14 Sep 2009 at 7:37pm |
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it "looks" neat, but i'll believe it when i see it.
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Landaulet
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Posted: 14 Sep 2009 at 7:38pm |
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I also agree with DST, I'd like to know the source of the benchmarks.
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notalent
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Posted: 15 Sep 2009 at 5:23am |
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Very interesting numbers. I would actually believe these numbers. The only thing is what settings were they using on Crysis. If they were Gamer settings then it's only marginally impressive. If they were at Enthusiast settings then count me in for 2. Not to mention the rumored power consumption is significantly lower than 295s.  |
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DST4ME
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Posted: 15 Sep 2009 at 11:38am |
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who cares about 295 anymore, now that we have 275 and at sli it beats 295 in both performance and cost.
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justin.kerr
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Posted: 15 Sep 2009 at 4:14pm |
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the 295 is 275's in SLI.
ATI would prove the 5870 to be a huge fail if it won't match or beat 275's in sli, and cost less. Bigger fails have happened, but not likely.
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DST4ME
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Posted: 15 Sep 2009 at 5:29pm |
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How manytimes are we gonna do this justin? a 295 has a performance of 2 x 260, at stock speed 275 sli will beat a 295.
even if it does beat the 275/285, who cares, you know nvidia will have the best card at the end, nvidia will always have the card that is the best, till ati puts something forth that nvidia can't beat. I am interested to see what the 5870 can do and how much it will cost tho, if it wasn't for ati, nvidia would not have the cards out that it has out now. |
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justin.kerr
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Posted: 15 Sep 2009 at 6:02pm |
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You know, it has been proven a million times to you that the GTX 295 is two GTX 275's. Same hardware. Performance exactly the same with the same clock speeds. The GTX 260 in sli will not match the 295 with the same clock speeds.The 260 has less Stream Processing Cores, less Texture Units, ect. Nvidia does not always have the better card, plus what is the better card? what does that mean? better warranty? better performance? better image quality? better HTPC capabilities? price? looks? what?
Lately Ati has not had the top performing card, but in the past, it has.
Price for the 5870 1Gb will be around $349, $399.00 for the 2Gb. Of course there will be some price gouging at first, always is. prices will likely remain fairly high until Nvidia comes out with their next generation.
I agree that Ati and Nvidia wars price/or performance is great for the consumer. I cant hardly stand waiting for the new GTX 300 series, I might pull the trigger on a pair of 5870x2's if Nvidia keeps pushing the release date back..
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DST4ME
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Posted: 15 Sep 2009 at 6:29pm |
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what are you talking about? sli 275 beats 295 at 1600 x 1200, 1900 x 1200 and 2560 x 1600:
I'll look for a better site with benchmarks. |
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justin.kerr
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Posted: 15 Sep 2009 at 7:16pm |
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The GTX 295 is 2 gtx 275's, don't care how you slice it, they are the same hardware. The dual PCB 295 had better Voltage regs, but the single PCB has the crap ones just as the 275. I can run benches all day, and each time there will be a variance from run to run, look at the ones you posted, even the down clocked version beats the stock on a run, because of variances. I have had 3 260's 3 275's and 2 295's, I have benched them all, thoroughly as well as thousands of others. This is old news... |
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DST4ME
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Posted: 15 Sep 2009 at 8:52pm |
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they can have the same hardware but the perfornace is not the same, there is not one site that shows a stock 295 beating a stock 275 in dual sli, also in games that don't support sli, the 275 does better then the 295.
each game is different but they have to down clock the 275 to match the 295's performance and even then it beats the 295. even you yourself had admited that the 275 beats the 295 stock:
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justin.kerr
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Posted: 15 Sep 2009 at 11:31pm |
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exactly, because the 295 is down clocked for heat reasons. same hardware.
anyone can OC a 295 to stock 275 levels.
Either way, it is the 295 that ATI has their sights on beating for performance at a lower cost. Single card VS single card . Your point of beating 275's in SLI though is a very valid question for a performance/cost point, but the 5870 should cost less and be similar in performance. But until the 9.10 cats come out, lol its all just hypothetical BS.
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venom
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Posted: 16 Sep 2009 at 12:09am |
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Damn if the 5870 meets/beats a 295 I will have to get one. Are you referring to the 5870 or 5870x2 though?
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Zurginator
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Posted: 16 Sep 2009 at 7:55am |
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I'm going to wait for all of you guys to buy these, and then be crying when the new GT300 core is better than 2 of these in CrossfireX. :P
I mean, from everything I've been watching, Nvidia is about to pull of another 8800. Think about it: The last time Nvidia used a 9 in the product number was the 7950.... which was a dual-gpu card. This card was used to buy time for them to finish up a beast, the 8800. Now we have the 295, another dual-gpu card, probably being used to buy time (as they also did a revamp). Then the laptop cards are being launched first, to buy even more time. I'm telling you, Nvidia is working on a beast.... and I want 3. Edited by Zurginator - 16 Sep 2009 at 7:55am |
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justin.kerr
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Posted: 16 Sep 2009 at 9:10am |
The 5870 will match up to the GTX 295, but same as always, some engines prefer ATI, some Nvidia, but overall it is looking to match/beat the GTX 295 on average, with TDP of around 180-190 watts. It might not beat the GTX 295 in a few games out of the gate, until drivers mature though. Also note, that this is only with very high res, and 8xMSAA, with no AA and low res the 295 will still be ahead of the 5870.
In my opinion ATI has set the bar very high for Nvidia, so hopefully the 300 series will be just outrageous, but I have heard that Nvidia is having trouble their yields on the 300 so... hate all this speculation. lol Edited by justin.kerr - 16 Sep 2009 at 9:13am |
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DST4ME
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Posted: 17 Sep 2009 at 3:18am |
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Nvidia confident that GT300 wins over HD 5870
Several people confirm Nvidia is still not revealing any details about its chip that we still call GT300 but one thing is getting quite certain. A few people who saw just leaked performance data on ATI's soon to launch Radeon HD 5870 have told Fudzilla that they are absolutely confident that GT300 will win over Radeon HD 5870. Since GT300 has its GX2 brother they should not fear much against Radeon 5870 X2 whenever that comes out, as if Nvidia wins a single chip battle, they can win the dual one as well. We can only confirm that GT300 is not a GT200 in 40nm with DirectX 11 support. It’s a brand new chip that was designed almost entirely from the ground up. Industry sources believe that this is the biggest change since G80 was launched and that you can expect such level of innovation and change. The launch as far as we know is still slated for late November and hasn’t been confirmed. |
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jean luc picard
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Posted: 17 Sep 2009 at 3:41am |
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I cant wait for nvidia to announce the news of the 300 series in november.Im so crazy that even though come this december my video cards will only be 5 months old,that i will still buy two new cards of the 300 series next year to run in sli.
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Zurginator
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Posted: 18 Sep 2009 at 6:06pm |
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The GT300 core is a cGPU.
If I remember the G80 changed to SIMD (single instruction multiple data), and the GT300 I know changes to MIMD (multiple instruction multiple data). That alone would more than double the power if it was a carbon copy of the GT200 core in every other aspect, but then they are DOUBLING that core up..... Aka this is gonna be insane. |
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