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  Quote Bigan Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Topic: Comparison!!
    Posted: 09 May 2009 at 1:56pm

Ok so Im starting to think that when I made my first order, I made it too fast and didn't really look into what I was buying. I chose the higher end options bcz I was (and still am) a newb at putting together a computer.

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Here is my question. would my first order be a better computer for me then my second order. Should I change stuff around or wait for the computer I have coming?
 
Notes: My resolution is 1900 x 1080. I play mainly World of Warcraft and iRacing but will play more GPU intense games.
 
these are my thoughts. First Order: Awesome components while the looks are not so flashy and much slower HDD. This order is also on standby awaiting the shipment of 295's coming in like late may early June Big%20smile.
Chassis Model: Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: Paint Screws and Hose Clamps (Black)
Processor: Intel Core i7 Extreme Edition 965 3.2GHz (Quad Core) (Extreme Performance)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 Classified 3X SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports Triple SLI or CrossFire)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 2000MHz Corsair Dominator GT (Extreme-Performance)
Power Supply: 1200W PC Power & Cooling (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) (Recommended)
Card Reader: Internal Digital Media Card Reader (Black)
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (150GB Western Digital VelociRaptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) (LightScribe Edition)
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card(s): 2x SLI Quad (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 1.792GB) (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Creative Labs X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Champion (Includes Front I/O) (PCI-Express Slot Based)
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 3: High-Performance Liquid Chilled FrostBite System For CPU
Liquid Color: UV Green: High Glowing Non-conductive Fluid (Requires H20: Stage 3 & UV Lighting)
Chassis Airflow: Upgrade Chassis With Zalman Performance Fans (Up to 6 Fans)
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (UV) (Creates Glowing Effect For H20: Stage 3 UV Fluid)
Enhancements: LCD Temperature Display & Fan Controller (Requires Chassis Airflow Upgrade)
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
CPU Boost: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability
Graphics Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Memory Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Windows Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Pre-Install Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-10 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty
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Sub-Total: $5,530.00
 
Second order: (Just thinking about the parts, this has not been ordered but could change current order around if decided). Order Number: 279942
 
Notes: the two ssd's raided together wootage (Dunno how to raid myself so thought I would have them do it) making up for the HDD Speeds.I thought this computer would Look sweet with the paint job and the blue lighting with the green led fans. I was also wondering if the performance jump would be a huge jump down from my first order. I was also thinking of having DS special order the 1792 MHz 275's instead of the normal ones. A few options are open as well such as three 275's but ill just take whatever advise I can bcz I just thought my second order would be really awesome and wanted to know the performance jump I would Suffer.Censored
 
I could change my current order around to somthing like this if needed, but my budget is anywhere at or below the total of my first order. Should I change stuff around or wait on the order I have coming?
 
 P.S. I needed a nice surge protector and the extra money would allow me one lol. (1500 va is enough to run this computer and a 23" monitor with 300 watt speakers isnt it?)


Edited by Bigan - 09 May 2009 at 2:02pm
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  Quote tman5890 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 May 2009 at 2:22pm
If I were you I would drop the 2000mhz ram and get like 1600mhz instead. Then with the extra money I would upgrade to Stage 2 overclock or upgrading HDD. Such an expensive computer deserves a better OC or faster HDDs, imo.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 May 2009 at 4:38pm
for 1900 x 1200 all you need is 2 x 275 or 1 x 295.

game wise you are not going to notice much of a difference between the 2 systems.

why are you choosing the classifed with the 920?
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  Quote Bigan Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 May 2009 at 8:04pm
i dunno lol i didnt think it would matter but whats the difference with the classified and the none classified. and so you think the second order would be better for me?
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 May 2009 at 1:11am
well the classified is more for enthusiast or people that have a need for Tri sli and a couple of more PCI slots. and a $200 price tag.

I think if you drop the interior and exterior paint and the bluray, then you got a great system in the second build
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  Quote Bigan Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 May 2009 at 9:41am
Alright. I made my descision on my build and I believe I am happy with it. I dropped the raptor for SSD's and dropped the 2000 mhz ram for the 1600 mhz ram. so Here it is. DTS4ME whats your opinion? I left the GPU's alone and decided to wait for the 295's.
 
Chassis Model: Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: Paint Screws and Hose Clamps (Black)
Processor: Intel Core i7 Extreme Edition 965 3.2GHz (Quad Core) (Extreme Performance)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 Classified 3X SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports Triple SLI or CrossFire)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Mushkin (Highly Recommended) (Digital Storm Certified)
Power Supply: 1000W Corsair HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition)
Card Reader: Internal Digital Media Card Reader (Black)
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 2x (60GB Solid State (By: OCZ) Vertex Series (Model: OCZSSD2-1VTX60G)
Set 1 Raid Options: Configure HDD Set 1 to a Raid 0 Config - Stripe Performance (Requires Two HDDs)
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) (LightScribe Edition)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card(s): 2x SLI Quad (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 1.792GB) (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Creative Labs X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Champion (Includes Front I/O) (PCI-Express Slot Based)
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 3: High-Performance Liquid Chilled FrostBite System For CPU
Liquid Color: UV Green: High Glowing Non-conductive Fluid (Requires H20: Stage 3 & UV Lighting)
Chassis Airflow: Upgrade Chassis With Zalman Performance Fans (Up to 6 Fans)
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (UV) (Creates Glowing Effect For H20: Stage 3 UV Fluid)
Enhancements: LCD Temperature Display & Fan Controller (Requires Chassis Airflow Upgrade)
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
CPU Boost: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability
Graphics Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Memory Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Windows Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Pre-Install Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-10 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty
-- PROMOTIONAL LIMITED TIME BONUS DISCOUNT: $300 1
 
 
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  Quote aaronevil Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 May 2009 at 11:42am
I agree with Harley on the sound card. On board is probably just as good for what most people do. The only reason to get a sound card in my opinion is if you do a lot of audio recording (music or radio) and you dont want to spend a lot of money on a decent external audio interface (such as an M-Audio or something similar). 
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  Quote Bigan Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 May 2009 at 12:40pm
Quick question about the SSD's though. Im a Complete Newb when it comes to SSD's and was wondering if theres a catch to them. They sound really nice and extremely fast but I was wondering if I had to "Flash" (Which I Have Never Done) them as I have been reading often and erase the memory I dont want on there because they don't actually delete files you want deleted (So I have Heard).
 
I have never installed a operating system on a computer before and would hate to have to deal with basically deleting everything off the drives and reinstalling them every two weeks..
 
Basically I was just wanting Drives that were Fast and easy to maintain.
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  Quote Bigan Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 May 2009 at 2:41pm
Ill prolly end up doing that. But why should I do this if I have never installed an OS. Just curious. would I ever have to Erase everything off them? As part of general matinence that is. Whats bad about having them in Raid 0? Sorry but im trying to learn lol.Hug
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  Quote e.fruman Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 May 2009 at 3:21pm
honestly your wasting alot of money on dumb things i would go with thise build to save money and no gain in performance.
Ticket Number: 281405
Total Price with Instant Savings: $3,605.00

Direct Load URL: http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=281405

Specifications:
Chassis Model: Digital Storm 950Si
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 3X SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports Triple SLI or CrossFire)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Mushkin (Highly Recommended) (Digital Storm Certified)
Power Supply: 1000W Corsair HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition)
Card Reader: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) (LightScribe Edition)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 3x SLI Triple (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 275 896MB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 3: High-Performance Liquid Chilled FrostBite System For CPU
Liquid Color:Blue: Non-conductive High-Performance Fluid (Requires H20: Stage 3 Cooling Package)
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Blue)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock the processor between 4.0GHz to 4.2GHz (Requires H20 Cooling Upgrade)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-10 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: 5 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty (Highly Recommended)
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 May 2009 at 4:04pm
What is wrong with SSD? there are thousands of people with SSD and no problem, why do you just go around saying stuff that has no basis for it? spend $200 on a veloci when for a little bit they can a much faster drive for what?

Bigan there is nothing wrong with SSDs and they specifically state that they support raid, don't believe the hype, the first gen SSDs had some problems but the mentioned vertex does not suffer from any of those


give me a ticket number so I can look that ticket over.


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  Quote Bigan Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 May 2009 at 9:17am
I dont have a ticket number but this is my order's specs DST4ME.. thank you for your reviews as well. starting to feel more comfortable with the SSD's.
 
Chassis Model: Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: Paint Screws and Hose Clamps (Black)
Processor: Intel Core i7 Extreme Edition 965 3.2GHz (Quad Core) (Extreme Performance)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 Classified 3X SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports Triple SLI or CrossFire)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Mushkin (Highly Recommended) (Digital Storm Certified)
Power Supply: 1000W Corsair HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition)
Card Reader: Internal Digital Media Card Reader (Black)
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 2x (60GB Solid State (By: OCZ) Vertex Series (Model: OCZSSD2-1VTX60G)
Set 1 Raid Options: Configure HDD Set 1 to a Raid 0 Config - Stripe Performance (Requires Two HDDs)
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) (LightScribe Edition)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card(s): 2x SLI Quad (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 1.792GB) (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Creative Labs X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Champion (Includes Front I/O) (PCI-Express Slot Based)
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 3: High-Performance Liquid Chilled FrostBite System For CPU
Liquid Color: UV Green: High Glowing Non-conductive Fluid (Requires H20: Stage 3 & UV Lighting)
Chassis Airflow: Upgrade Chassis With Zalman Performance Fans (Up to 6 Fans)
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (UV) (Creates Glowing Effect For H20: Stage 3 UV Fluid)
Enhancements: LCD Temperature Display & Fan Controller (Requires Chassis Airflow Upgrade)
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
CPU Boost: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability
Graphics Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Memory Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Windows Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Pre-Install Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-10 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty
-- PROMOTIONAL LIMITED TIME BONUS DISCOUNT: $300
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 May 2009 at 4:23pm
there are a bunch of people on this forum with either one SSD as HDD1 or with multiple SSDs in raid for HDD1 and not one person has reported a problem.

right now in your config with the raid you are looking at something like 460MB/s read and 370MB/s write and basically zero seek time, that is great speed.

I would tell you to go with 1333MHz ram but for classified 1600 is better.

why are you going with 2 x 295 if your resolution is 1900 x 1200? why not go with one and then if you see you need another, which I doubt, then you can simply add that in, it will save you money if you get the second one from newegg

build looks great but you might want to go with 1200w psu I think
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  Quote Bigan Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 May 2009 at 4:30pm
I figured I would get the 2nd 295 to have it bcz eventually my display will be a 30'er and I origionally had a 1200 watt power supply but DS told me all I needed was the 1000 Watt one and it would save me money but They also said it would not pass their tests if it needs a bigger one so we shall see :P. thanks for the review yet again lol

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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 May 2009 at 4:32pm
I think with the 2 x 295, raid, classified, OC, extra fans, etc, you will be a little short, but DS is right if its not enough then it won't be stable so let see , good luck and your are very welcome, it was my pleasure

don't forget to post your specs and pics when you get it
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  Quote Bigan Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 May 2009 at 9:37am
Woot Stage Six!!
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 May 2009 at 8:45pm
soon it will time to pray to the shipping gods
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