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  Quote zmank Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Topic: Compatibility
    Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 9:49am
I wanted to know for in the future if you could have 2 video cards of different types?
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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 9:52am
what do you mean by different types? different models? different manufacturers?
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  Quote zmank Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 10:12am
Different models, like a Geforce 295 with a Geforce 275
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 11:35am
don't think you can do that.
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  Quote zmank Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 11:42am
Okay thanks!
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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 12:13pm
wouldn't that make tri-sli?  (3) 275's??
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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 12:23pm
You can't, but, you could use the other graphics card for PhysX/CUDA, etc...
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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 12:27pm
?? you could. lol  but would it lower the 295 to 275's output, or would it tri-sli??
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 1:28pm
no I think Alex means that you use the 275 for physx, won't tri sli.

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  Quote lgm25c Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 1:41pm
Originally posted by zmank

Different models, like a Geforce 295 with a Geforce 275
 
If you mean use those cards together in SLI mode, no.
The manuf. can be different, but the GPU has to be the same.
 
Here's a part from Nvidia's site on SLI tech, and their "how-to" guide;
 
 
 
) Ensure that the second graphics card you plan to install:
    • Has the NVIDIA® SLI™-Ready badge on the box
    • Has the same graphics processing unit (GPU) as the SLI-Ready card already installed in your PC. (Note: The graphics card manufacturer may be different, as may the GPU clock and memory speeds, but the GPUs MUST match. For example, if you have a GeForce 7600 GS-based graphics card, your second card, regardless of manufacturer, must have a GeForce 7600 GS GPU in order to take advantage of SLI technology.


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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 1:41pm
YOU SURE?
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 3:39pm
I'm not sure, why you know something we don't? if so then spill it, whats all the questions about
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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 4:34pm

since it is just 3 275's it seems like it would work., maybe.

 My wife is starting her new build soon, ll have 295's, maybe I can swap one out with one of our spare 275's. lol
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 5:05pm
if you can check it and let us know, I'm thinking the a 295 is more of a 260+ then a 275 tho, otherwise 2 x 275 wouldn't outperform a single 295, I can also you tell you that you will get lot more folding with 2 x 275 then you do with the 295(sli disabled and each GPU folding separately)
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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 5:10pm
no no, a 295 is 2 275's slapped together, downside it produces more heat, so they down clocked the 295's to combat heat. The only reason 2 275's beat a 295 is because of the clock speeds. I guarantee that one of my wife's 295's will beat two stock 275's, or any factory OC'ed ones also. lol

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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 5:13pm
so you oced the wifes 295, thats why it beats the 2 x 275

I don't know about it being 2 x 275 justin, other the cores (from the 280), everything else matches a 260+.



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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 5:26pm
No, the  275  hardware matches exactly the 295.. Thought this was well known info. lol
If we OCed a 295 to the same speeds as the 275, then a 295 and 2 275's would have the same graphic power, barring the 295 was on a PCIex16 slot

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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 5:40pm
memory bandwidth and all match a 260
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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 5:42pm

like I said the hardware is 275, then they downclocked it for heat reasons....Smile

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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 5:52pm
but they down clocked to 260?


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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 6:02pm
ding ding we have a winner. lol
 
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 6:06pm
which hardware are you saying is 275?

all the reivews I saw when it came out, they all said it was a 280 core and the rest was 260.

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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 6:23pm
All of the hardware. lol  275 share the same hardware, as the 295 single PCB, the dual PCB had a Volterra voltage regulator, but the single has the same as the 275's
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 6:27pm
you got a link where I can see that info?
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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 6:49pm
I have the GPU's here, you can come over and look at all the chips, vrms, caps, ect and see for yourself. Embarrassed
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 6:53pm
lol well I believe you but I always like to see things for myself.

for me if it quacks like a duck and sounds like a duck its a duck, if it performs like a 260 then its a 260 as far as I'm concerned, even if it has a 275 hardware, its limitations are hindering its performance, so it might as well be 2 x 260.
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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 7:12pm
not with 240 shaders, remember the big increase the 260 received when it went from 192 to 216? upping to 240 helps a lot, plus with the same chip, and mem, the 295 can clock the same as 275's, as long as you can cool them. I just wish they would have left the Volterra voltage regulator on the single PCB ones, that made for easy voltage adjustments. WinkSo those could actually clock higher than the 275's, ohh well, she better be happy with 2 fairly high OCed 295's. Smile
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 7:49pm
Yes 240 helps but even stock with that, it does not perform as well as stock 275, it performs like 2 x 260 stock.

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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 8:44pm
Smile that is because the mem,shader,core clocks are down clocked.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 8:56pm
but most people don't mess with voltages and stuff and use them stock, besides it is because of heat that they are down clocked, bottom line is that in performance stock 295 perfoms like a 260 cause its matches a 260 settings down to the mem bandwidth, I don't see why they would downclock the bandwidth to a 260, some of it makes no sense.

but at the end of the day, for whatever reason, stock you get 2 x 260.
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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Jul 2009 at 9:09pm
a bit more than 2 260s,  with the added shaders, but not 2 275's because of the slower clocks.
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  Quote venom Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Aug 2009 at 12:04am
Stock 295 might _perform_ like 2x260s, but the actual hardware (not clocks) are 2x275.
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