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Kev739 
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I'm looking to have this built and add my old GeForce 9800 GT to it since I bought the card not too long ago and figure it'd be a waste not to use it. But would this card help boost performance for this rig or is it not worth it? Is mixing 2 different video cards a bad idea?
I usually play MMOs like WoW and other games like Fallout or Bioshock, Dragon Age etc. but not so much Modern Warfare or Call of Duty.
Also, I always run in 1680 X 1050 resolution
My price range is about $2000 so I don't really want to go much higher.
Total Price with Instant Savings: $2,165.00
Specifications: Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master HAF 932 Exterior Finish: - Not Available Trim Accents: - Not Available Processor: Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core) Motherboard: EVGA X58 LE Edition SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports SLI or CrossFire) System Memory: 3GB DDR3 1866MHz Corsair Dominator DHX (High-Performance) Power Supply: 1000W Digital Storm Certified (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition Highly Recommended) Expansion Bay: - Not Available Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (1TB Seagate/Hitachi/Western Digital (7200 RPM) (32MB Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed) Set 1 Raid Options: - Not Available Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: Blu-Ray Player/DVD Player (Play Blu-Ray and Play DVDs) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285 1GB (Includes PhysX Technology) Add-on Card: - No Thanks Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Asetek Liquid CPU Cooler (120mm Radiator) H20 Tube Color:- Not Available Chassis Airflow: Upgrade Chassis With Zalman Performance Fans (Up to 6 Fans) Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Blue) Enhancements: - Not Available Chassis Mods: - Not Available Noise Reduction: - Not Available Boost Processor: FREE: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Requires Air Cooling Upgrade) Boost Video Card: FREE: Yes, Overclock the video card(s) as much as possible with complete stability Boost Memory: - Not Available Boost OS: FREE: Yes, Disable and tweak all of the non-crucial services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based) Virus Protection: - Not Available Office: - Not Available Benchmarking: - Not Available Install/Test Game: FREE: Please include a free copy of a hot-selling game Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks External Storage: - No Thanks Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Large) Edited by Kev739 - 23 Feb 2010 at 8:53pm |
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DST4ME
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Posted: 23 Feb 2010 at 8:59pm |
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Here you go Ticket# 387599 --- Price: $1981 (To see this build click here) Price after current promotion $1981
Copy of Specifications: Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master HAF 932 Exterior Finish: - Not Available Trim Accents: - Not Available Processor: Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core) Motherboard: EVGA X58 Micro Edition SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports SLI or CrossFire) System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested) Power Supply: 750W Corsair TX (Dual SLI Compatible) Expansion Bay: - Not Available Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA) Set 1 Raid Options: - Not Available Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 22x / CD-Writer 48x) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: 1x ATI Radeon HD 5850 1GB Add-on Card: - No Thanks Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 1: Noctua Dual 120mm Fans High Performance Cooler (Compatible With ONLY i7 Processors) H20 Tube Color:- Not Available Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Red) Enhancements: - Not Available Chassis Mods: - Not Available Noise Reduction: - Not Available Boost Processor: FREE: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Requires Air Cooling Upgrade) Boost Video Card: - Not Available Boost Memory: - Not Available Boost OS: - Not Available Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (64-Bit Edition) Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based) Virus Protection: - Not Available Office: - Not Available Benchmarking: - Not Available Install/Test Game: FREE: Please include a free copy of a hot-selling game Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks External Storage: - No Thanks Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Large) Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-10 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty if you gonna go cf in the future then change teh mobo in my config to the 3x sli, the difference will be only few fps with the LE. do you really need a bluray player? if so let me know I will add it in. Edited by DST4ME - 23 Feb 2010 at 9:00pm |
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Kev739
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Posted: 23 Feb 2010 at 9:18pm |
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Yes I sometimes like to watch some movies on my PC as I don't have a decent HDTV yet. Also I wasn't sure if I really needed 6gigs of RAM so I went with 3gigs of higher performance Corsair RAM instead. Should I go with 6? Is there a considerable difference? And I don't mind spending a little more on the mobo.
Taking some of your advice I modified my setup. Additionally, I don't mind spending a little over $2000 as you may have noticed my first config was $2,165.
Going back to my original question a bit, would my old GeForce 9800 be a good addition or would it not be worth it? Also, I would prefer to stick with Nvidia instead of ATI.
And is the AIR: Stage 1: Cooler Master V8 High Performance Cooler (Compatible With ONLY i7 Processors) better than the H20: Stage 2: Asetek Liquid CPU Cooler (120mm Radiator) for this?
Ticket Number: 387600
Total Price with Instant Savings: $2,095.00 Specifications: Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master HAF 932 Exterior Finish: - Not Available Trim Accents: - Not Available Processor: Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core) Motherboard: EVGA X58 LE Edition SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports SLI or CrossFire) System Memory: 3GB DDR3 1866MHz Corsair Dominator DHX (High-Performance) Power Supply: 750W Corsair TX (Dual SLI Compatible) Expansion Bay: - Not Available Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (1TB Seagate/Hitachi/Western Digital (7200 RPM) (32MB Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed) Set 1 Raid Options: - Not Available Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: Blu-Ray Player/DVD Player (Play Blu-Ray and Play DVDs) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285 1GB (Includes PhysX Technology) Add-on Card: - No Thanks Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 1: Cooler Master V8 High Performance Cooler (Compatible With ONLY i7 Processors) H20 Tube Color:- Not Available Chassis Airflow: Upgrade Chassis With Zalman Performance Fans (Up to 6 Fans) Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Blue) Enhancements: - Not Available Chassis Mods: - Not Available Noise Reduction: - Not Available Boost Processor: FREE: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Requires Air Cooling Upgrade) Boost Video Card: FREE: Yes, Overclock the video card(s) as much as possible with complete stability Boost Memory: - Not Available Boost OS: FREE: Yes, Disable and tweak all of the non-crucial services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based) Virus Protection: - Not Available Office: - Not Available Benchmarking: - Not Available Install/Test Game: FREE: Please include a free copy of a hot-selling game Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks External Storage: - No Thanks Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Large) Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-10 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty |
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TheTrickster
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Posted: 23 Feb 2010 at 9:27pm |
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Yeah you should get 6GB of RAM, 3GB is pretty low, you don't need anything higher than 1600mhz though. Whether you would notice a considerable difference or not really depends on what your doing and how much multitasking it involves.
Not sure if the 9800 would be a good addition, that's a question for the smarter ones to answer  . Do you have a reason why you want to go with NVIDIA? Because ATI really has the edge right now. NVIDIA is overpriced and you get less for your money than you will if you buy ATI. The current NVIDIA cards also do not support DX11, the ATI cards do. Also, I'm not positive about the cooler question, but I believe the V8 is better than the Asetek . Edited by TheTrickster - 23 Feb 2010 at 9:28pm |
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DST4ME
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Posted: 23 Feb 2010 at 9:48pm |
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you won't notice teh difference in ram speed, but in multi taskign and editing and such you gonna want more ram so go with 6GB of 1600MHz, on this pic the ds certified.
asetek is not real liquid cooling, and its not great at all, it performs the same as air coolers listed. v8 and Noctua have a track record and the d14 will eatup the asetek for lunch. I love nvidia too but for the money: 1. the 5850 is much better then the 285, it can handle higher res better then 285, 5850 has dx11 support which means better performance for current dx10 games and now and future dx11 games, remember there is gonna be 6 or 7 dx11 games coming out in a month or so, and if you want to oc, it oc-s better. with the 5850 the 9800 card is not needed, I didn't build you a system based on cost, I first went and gave you what you needed to run games at highest settings and 8x aa and 16x af plus being able to possibly go cf, when I was done the price is what you see. if I were to throw more money at that sytem, the only thing I would change with the haf you don't need the fan upgrade, the haf case has 3 x 230mm fans, HAF stans for High Air FLow, so it has great ariflow stock, the fan upgrade will not make a huge difference and they are loud, what they do is change the side 230mm fan with 4 x 120mm and the top 230mm fan with 2 x 120mm. drop the oc from the gpu, you might see 1 fps difference from it, for more heat. the os tweak is not needed and if you need one of those services later you maybe in trouble. if I were to throw money in taht system, only thing I would change in my config would be to add your bluray player, get the 3x sli mobo, and then if there is room look at a ssd. the other things will not make a difference in performance. |
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TheTrickster
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Posted: 23 Feb 2010 at 9:57pm |
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To back up what DST4 and I said about NVIDIA/ATI:
The 285 is roughly $400, while the 5850 is roughly $300. Plus the 5850 has DX11, as mentioned before.    |
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DST4ME
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Posted: 23 Feb 2010 at 10:12pm |
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ohhhhh me can do those all day lol:
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TheTrickster
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Posted: 23 Feb 2010 at 10:20pm |
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DST4ME
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Posted: 23 Feb 2010 at 10:22pm |
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what, I'm backing you up
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TheTrickster
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Posted: 23 Feb 2010 at 10:26pm |
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I know lol. ty
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Kev739
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Posted: 23 Feb 2010 at 10:32pm |
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Thanks a ton guys! Extremely helpful info. I wasn't sure if the fan upgrade would actually mean they would be quieter but it's good to know they're actually louder and not needed for this case so I went back down to standard fans. Quieter is good
I also forgot to mention I already have a fast external DVD writer but I don't have a Bluray player at all which is why I wanted to go for that upgrade.
It's $2255 but I don't mind a little extra cash spent over my $2k goal. I'm almost ready to order. Here's looking to be my final setup if it looks good to you guys. I took off the overclock and tweaking per DST4ME's advice and also upgraded to Windows 7 pro for Xp compatibility etc.
Ticket: 387625
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Not Available Trim Accents: - Not Available Processor: Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core) Motherboard: EVGA X58 LE Edition SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports SLI or CrossFire) System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested) Power Supply: 750W Corsair TX (Dual SLI Compatible) Expansion Bay: - Not Available Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (1TB Seagate/Hitachi/Western Digital (7200 RPM) (32MB Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed) Set 1 Raid Options: - Not Available Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: Blu-Ray Player/DVD Player (Play Blu-Ray and Play DVDs) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: 1x ATI Radeon HD 5870 1GB (XFX HD-587A-ZND9 XXX Edition) Add-on Card: - No Thanks Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 1: Cooler Master V8 High Performance Cooler (Compatible With ONLY i7 Processors) H20 Tube Color:- Not Available Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Blue) Enhancements: - Not Available Chassis Mods: - Not Available Noise Reduction: - Not Available Boost Processor: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my processor Boost Video Card: FREE: Yes, Overclock the video card(s) as much as possible with complete stability Boost Memory: - Not Available Boost OS: - Not Available Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (64-Bit Edition) Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based) Virus Protection: - Not Available Office: - Not Available Benchmarking: - Not Available Install/Test Game: FREE: Please include a free copy of a hot-selling game Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks External Storage: - No Thanks Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Large) Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-10 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty |
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DST4ME
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Posted: 23 Feb 2010 at 10:35pm |
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all looks good if you can for a $20 difference the Noctua NH-U12P is worth it.
but listen you don't need teh 5870, you want the 5850, at your res you will not notice teh difference, as in I can come in the middle of the night and change the 5870 with 5850 and you would never know. |
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TheTrickster
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Posted: 23 Feb 2010 at 10:40pm |
I knew it, DST4 is a ninja  .If nothing else, the 5870 is merely for future proof-ness right? Considering his resolution anyway. Because it could make a difference in the future when games get more graphicly intensive for the two cards right? |
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DST4ME
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Posted: 23 Feb 2010 at 10:44pm |
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if games get that intensive then 1 x 5870 is not gonna be enough either.
paying more for a part now does is not a good idea vs saving that money and buying a better gpu 2 years from now, that is real future proof. also with a good oc the 5850 can match the performance of a 5870. |
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Posted: 23 Feb 2010 at 10:47pm |
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I hope he isn't. He'd probably sneak in at night and smack a bunch of us By the time games get that intensive for that resolution it'll probably be time for an upgrade anyway I would guess.
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Posted: 23 Feb 2010 at 10:48pm |
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^^ Damn! He IS a ninja!
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Kev739
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Posted: 23 Feb 2010 at 11:01pm |
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At some point I might upgrade to a higher resolution. Right now I'm used to the 1680X1050 but it's always nice to be able to go higher and keep performance if I get a bigger screen or maybe just to see what it's like.
I used to always be 1280X1024 and I never thought I'd go higher but then I changed my ways.
 I might go higher again with a nice DS machine now.I'll go for the better fan as per your advice, DST.
 Thanks for all the help everybody!
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DST4ME
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Posted: 24 Feb 2010 at 1:11am |
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Our pleasure and good luck
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