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    Posted: 25 Jan 2011 at 11:04pm
Budget:
[2-2.5k]

Expectations:
[Play taxing game decently, fast internet usage, speedy, and multitasking is important.]

Usage:
[I want to be able to use this computer for Hard-core gaming, but it will also be used as an everyday computer. For the most part though, I play MMOG so internet speed is important but we only have Wi-Fi. I like film editing and a little animation to, but this generally falls under multitasking.]

Special Needs:
[Get things as cheap as possible, but also as speedy and powerful as possible.]

Specifications:
Ticket Number: 481637
Total Price with Instant Savings: $4,205.00

Direct Load URL: http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=481637

Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Black OPS Syndicate
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 950 3.06GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 SLI 3 Edition (USB 3.0 & SATA 6Gb/s) (Model: 131-GT-E767)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1000W Digital Storm Certified (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition Highly Recommended)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (80GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: X25-M MLC Edition) (Extreme Performance)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 2x (500GB Western Digital/Seagate/Hitachi/Samsung (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: 2x (500GB Western Digital/Seagate/Hitachi/Samsung (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM)
Optical Drive 1: Blu-Ray & DVD Writer/Reader (Burn + Play Blu-Ray & DVDs) (12x BD-R) (Lite-On iHBS112)
Optical Drive 2: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x) (LightScribe Edition)
Internet Access: Wireless-PCI N 300Mbps (Supports 802.11n/g/b)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1.2GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Auzen X-Fi Bravura 7.1 (PCI-Express Slot Based)
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Asetek Liquid CPU Cooler (120mm Radiator) (Great Value)
H20 Tube Color:Red Tubing with High-Performance Fluid (UV Lighting Reactive)
Chassis Airflow: Upgrade Chassis With LED Performance Fans (Red) (Up to 6 Fans)
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (UV) (Creates Glowing Effect for H20 Tubes)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: FREE: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Cooling Upgrade Recommended)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: Microsoft Office 2010 Home and Student (PC Attach Key PKC)
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: FREE: Hot-selling game with a NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 or above graphics card
Display: !PROMO BUNDLE: NVIDIA 3D Vision Kit (Asus 23 inch 120Hz VG236H + NVIDIA 3D Glasses)
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: Logitech X-540 5.1 System (Black Edition) (Includes Subwoofer)
Keyboard: Logitech G15 Gaming USB Desktop (Multimedia Keyboard)
Mouse: Mad Catz Cyborg R.A.T. 7 Gaming Mouse (Model: CCB437080002/04/1)

I am 14 years old and highly interested in computers. I would like to use this as a learning experience and get a few questions answered. I generally like to be in the middle of things, never the worst, and never the best. I would like to know, Are multiple Processors and Graphics cards better? And why? That is my current question. With every tweak made to these specs, please include why the tweak was made. Thank you!

Edited by CoolCaleb780 - 26 Jan 2011 at 9:22am
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  Quote CoolCaleb780 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Jan 2011 at 11:26pm
I would also like to be able to upgrade this at a point in time. and I realize I wasn't specific in saying that the 80GB SSD is for the OS and 1 500GB HD is for games while the other is for my misc. files. I would like a computer that can play BDs but it doesn't have to burn them, so if this needs to be lowered I would gladly do it. The DVD burner needs to stay, and I really use Light Scribe, but this only adds $7 so I don't think that would be an issue. I'm changing the budget to $2000-$2500 including the monitor, mouse, keyboard, and speakers. The mouse and keyboard and speakers can be downgraded, but I'd like the ability to have a 3D monitor. I would also like to be able to eventually upgrade to 3d Vision surround, so I'm assuming a GPU upgrade is necessary? That is about all I have now.

Edited by CoolCaleb780 - 26 Jan 2011 at 9:21am
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Jan 2011 at 11:33pm
Here you go Ticket# 481657 --- $3184 (To see this build click here)

Copy of Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.40GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 Pro (Intel P67 Chipset) (Features USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s)
System Memory: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1000W Corsair (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (160GB Solid State (By: Corsair) (Model: Drive Force Series CSSD-F160GBP2-BRKT)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (64MB Cache) (Model: Black Edition WD1002FAEX)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: Wireless-PCI N 300Mbps (Supports 802.11n/g/b)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1.2GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Auzen X-Fi Bravura 7.1 (PCI-Express Slot Based)
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 4: Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System: CPU Only
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Upgrade Chassis With LED Performance Fans (Red) (Up to 6 Fans)
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (UV) (Creates Glowing Effect for H20 Tubes)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: FREE: Overclock the processor between 3.6GHz to 3.9GHz
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty

get your monitor and keyboard and etc from newegg or some place else it should be cheaper.

the hdd setup is as follows:

HDD1 = fast small drive: os/apps/games

HDD2 = regular large drive: media/personal/work file storage

I'm not a huge expert on 3D, but from what I understand you will need sli to play at high settings and etc.

Edited by DST4ME - 25 Jan 2011 at 11:36pm
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  Quote ablahblah Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Jan 2011 at 12:29am
You're 14 and you want a $3k computer, holy cow lol. I'm feeling jealous....started out with a $2k and now I still think I've been a bit spoiled with what's in this thing. I'm 15 by the way, ordered when I was 13 or so, so I think you might be getting into something bigger than you know from my ordering experience...

You can get the kickass build DST posted up right now, but really man, I've been in your place and I've looked back at the dream machine Skulltrail builds I conjured up before and I still laugh my butt off at the price that those things had. Chocked them up with all the bells and whistles, hit the $4k or so price range, until I brought myself to my senses eventually and got a $2k rig. I still have it today, and really the only advantage that the 4k rig had over this was a processor that had overclocking that wouldn't impact too much on my performance and a ridiculous array of graphics card power that could cause problems itself. The point is, after $2500 or so you start getting less and less real daily power and more and more bells and whistles that'll really only show up and matter if you're a world class overclocker (justin.kerr) or serious serious enthusiast (Magik). If you want to get something for homework, some editing from time to time, and a few hours of gaming a day, like I do, a $4000 investment is hefty man. Speaking of that, have you even talked to your parents yet, or are you just dreaming now? LOL, been there done that.

IMO, what'd best suit your needs from my perspective.
Config No. 281680 ($2612)
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.40GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 Pro (Intel P67 Chipset) (Features USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s)
System Memory: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 750W Digital Storm Certified (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition Recommended)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (40GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: X-25V Edition) (Extreme Performance)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (500GB Western Digital/Seagate/Hitachi/Samsung (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: Wireless-PCI N 300Mbps (Supports 802.11n/g/b)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1.2GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 1: Noctua NH-U12P SE Dual 120mm Fans High Performance Cooler
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Blue)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 4.0GHz to 4.7GHz (Cooling Upgrade Recommended)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: FREE: Hot-selling game with a NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 or above graphics card
Display: Acer 23 inch (Widescreen) (Black) (High-Performance Gaming Display)
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: Logitech 2.1 System (Model LS21) (Includes Subwoofer)
Keyboard: Logitech G15 Gaming USB Desktop (Multimedia Keyboard)
Mouse: Mad Catz Cyborg R.A.T. 7 Gaming Mouse (Model: CCB437080002/04/1)
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Small)
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty



Edited by ablahblah - 26 Jan 2011 at 12:33am
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Core i7 920 @ 3.9Ghz
Asus Sabertooth X58
EVGA GTX 570
Mushkin 6GB 1414Mhz
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  Quote dodgers2213 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Jan 2011 at 1:36am
Your jealous? If I didn't get my computers for free, I wouldnt have one :(
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  Quote CoolCaleb780 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Jan 2011 at 9:16am
No no no! Ok, let me clear this up! Like I said I want to use this as a learning experience, I will not be buying this computer..... yet....

But the purpose of this is to actually learn what you've just told me. A computer around 2k is really all someone like me would need! Most people I talk to always confirm that the more expensive the better it would. While I know this is not true, I just wanted to get another opinion! So I officially move the price range to 2-2.5k!

The main goal for me is to build a computer that serves its purpose so that I have something to save up for! I'm actually getting a summer job this year, so I can finally start putting money away to actually buying my own computer! But for now, I am just learning!

P.S. I already have a computer w/ a 500GB HD a I've only got 3GB left!!! I'm gonna need to double it at least! I've backed up some stuff on other Hard Drives, but I find most of it I still end up needing! So, I know I'll need more then that!

Edited by CoolCaleb780 - 26 Jan 2011 at 9:21am
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Jan 2011 at 11:27pm
Well I would make some changes to ablah's build to optomise it a bit more, so something like this, this one is a pc that can grow and do sli:

Here you go Ticket# 481977 --- $2436 (To see this build click here)

Copy of Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.40GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 Pro (Intel P67 Chipset) (Features USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s)
System Memory: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1000W Corsair (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (80GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: X25-M MLC Edition) (Extreme Performance)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (64MB Cache) (Model: Black Edition WD1002FAEX)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: Wireless-PCI N 300Mbps (Supports 802.11n/g/b)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1.2GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 1: Noctua NH-U12P SE Dual 120mm Fans High Performance Cooler
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: FREE: Overclock the processor between 3.6GHz to 3.9GHz
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty

now this one does not have the sound card and some of the extras, so the price is lower, but if you add that sound card then budget needs to be higher, now lets say all you play is mmo which does not need sli, so then the build would change a bit, we go with regular mobo cause we don't need sli, a 750w corsair will give us enough power and etc:

Here you go Ticket# 481978 --- $2111 (To see this build click here)

Copy of Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.40GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 (Intel P67 Chipset) (Features USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s)
System Memory: 4GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 750W Corsair TX (Dual SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (80GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: X25-M MLC Edition) (Extreme Performance)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (64MB Cache) (Model: Black Edition WD1002FAEX)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: Wireless-PCI N 300Mbps (Supports 802.11n/g/b)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1.2GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 1: Noctua NH-U12P SE Dual 120mm Fans High Performance Cooler
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: FREE: Overclock the processor between 3.6GHz to 3.9GHz
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty

here you can't go sli, you can always add more ram, and if you want to save even more money, you can always add the ssd later too.
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