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I had just recently come across digital storm will I was searching online this week. I had never heard of digital storm before but I had heard about Cyber power from a clip i saw on g4tv and had started to think about saving up to get one. But, once I read through the ds forums and saw what people had been saying about these computers and how poorly cyberpower pc's have been, I quickly changed my mind and am on board to save up money and by a ds desktop, hopefully soon. I'm looking into getting a good gaming desktop but would would not like to have to spend anything above 3000. Most of the computers I've seen were around the 2000 to 3000 range, unless there could be anything cheaper. Here is the config I have, I would greatly appreciate any help you can give me on how I might change things and even bring the price down. Thanks.

Ticket# 189040

Total Price with Instant Savings: $2,728.00

Chassis: Cooler Master HAF 932

Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish

Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish

Power Supply: 650W Corsair HX (Dual SLI Compatible)

Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 2.66GHz (1333MHz FSB) (12MB Cache)

Motherboard: NVIDIA 750i SLI Core 2 Quad (Chipset: nForce 750i SLI)

System Memory: 4GB DDR2 OCZ at 800MHz

Card Reader: - No Thanks

Hard Drive 1: 150GB Western Digital Raptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed)

Hard Drive 2: 500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)

Raid Option: - No Thanks

Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks

Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) (LightScribe Edition)

Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks

Wireless Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)

Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 9800GTX 512MB (Includes PhysX Technology)

TV Tuner: - No Thanks

Sound Card: Razer Barracuda AC-1 (Recommended)

Extreme Cooling: Liquid Chilled FrostBite CPU Only

Internal Lighting: Blizzard Internal Lighting (Blue Edition) (Cold Cathode Tubes)

Modifications: - No Thanks

Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability

Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)

Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory

Tweak Windows: Yes, Disable and tweak all of the non-crucial services on the operating system

Windows OS: Microsoft Windows XP Media Center 2005 (Includes Service Pack 2)

Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)

Protection: - No Thanks

Office: - No Thanks

Benchmarking: - No Thanks

Install/Test Game: - No Thanks

LCD Display: - No Thanks

Surge Shield: - No Thanks

Speakers: - No Thanks

Keyboard: Microsoft Multimedia Desktop 3.0 (Multimedia Keyboard + Optical Wheel Mouse)

Mouse: - No Thanks my keyboard comes with a mouse

External Storage: - No Thanks

Warranty: 4 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty (Highly Recommended)

Edited by ctjones - 30 Sep 2008 at 5:22pm

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ctjones Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 30 Sep 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 39	Quote Reply Topic: Config Help Posted: 30 Sep 2008 at 5:19pm
	Hi, I had just recently come across digital storm will I was searching online this week. I had never heard of digital storm before but I had heard about Cyber power from a clip i saw on g4tv and had started to think about saving up to get one. But, once I read through the ds forums and saw what people had been saying about these computers and how poorly cyberpower pc's have been, I quickly changed my mind and am on board to save up money and by a ds desktop, hopefully soon. I'm looking into getting a good gaming desktop but would would not like to have to spend anything above 3000. Most of the computers I've seen were around the 2000 to 3000 range, unless there could be anything cheaper. Here is the config I have, I would greatly appreciate any help you can give me on how I might change things and even bring the price down. Thanks. Ticket# 189040 Total Price with Instant Savings: $2,728.00 Chassis: Cooler Master HAF 932 Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Power Supply: 650W Corsair HX (Dual SLI Compatible) Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 2.66GHz (1333MHz FSB) (12MB Cache) Motherboard: NVIDIA 750i SLI Core 2 Quad (Chipset: nForce 750i SLI) System Memory: 4GB DDR2 OCZ at 800MHz Card Reader: - No Thanks Hard Drive 1: 150GB Western Digital Raptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed) Hard Drive 2: 500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA) Raid Option: - No Thanks Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) (LightScribe Edition) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Wireless Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 9800GTX 512MB (Includes PhysX Technology) TV Tuner: - No Thanks Sound Card: Razer Barracuda AC-1 (Recommended) Extreme Cooling: Liquid Chilled FrostBite CPU Only Internal Lighting: Blizzard Internal Lighting (Blue Edition) (Cold Cathode Tubes) Modifications: - No Thanks Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory Tweak Windows: Yes, Disable and tweak all of the non-crucial services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows XP Media Center 2005 (Includes Service Pack 2) Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based) Protection: - No Thanks Office: - No Thanks Benchmarking: - No Thanks Install/Test Game: - No Thanks LCD Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: Microsoft Multimedia Desktop 3.0 (Multimedia Keyboard + Optical Wheel Mouse) Mouse: - No Thanks my keyboard comes with a mouse External Storage: - No Thanks Warranty: 4 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty (Highly Recommended) Edited by ctjones - 30 Sep 2008 at 5:22pm

DST4ME Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758	Quote Reply Posted: 30 Sep 2008 at 5:30pm
	Man are you lucky you ran into us then, otherwise you would have had. less choices, paid more, gotten less and crappy customer service. DS is great place and I'm what you call a picky shopper, I checked out all of those places you are talking about and a few more, and after looking at over 10 places, DS stood very high, main reason is that even worst case scenario they did things I have not even ever seen any place else do, just to make the customer happy. anyways, I'll be back with my idea, you got some thing that need changing
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DST4ME Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758	Quote Reply Posted: 30 Sep 2008 at 5:44pm
	this is a killer beast, little over your price but its worth it, it should land you around 3.8 to 4.0. but if you don't mind being around 3.4 to 3.6 go with q9550, 3.2 to 3.4 is what you can expect from q9450. Ofcourse please remember these are all just my own guesses no numbers are guaranteed, I'm just basing it on what I have seen people report here. here you go Ticket# 189173 --- Price: $2928 (To see this build click here) Copy of Specifications: Chassis: Cooler Master HAF 932 Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Power Supply: 750W Corsair HX (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition) Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 3.0GHz (1333MHz FSB) (12MB Cache) Motherboard: nVidia 790i Ultra Core 2 Quad (nForce 790i Ultra SLI) (DDR3 Only) System Memory: 4GB DDR3 1333MHz OCZ Card Reader: - No Thanks Hard Drive 1: 150GB Western Digital Raptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed) Hard Drive 2: 500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA) Raid Option: - No Thanks Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: - No Thanks Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Wireless Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 896MB (Includes PhysX Technology) TV Tuner: - No Thanks Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: Liquid Chilled FrostBite CPU Only Internal Lighting: - No Thanks Modifications: - No Thanks Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: Yes, Overclock memory timings (Includes Memory Fan Kit Installed) Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts) Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based) Protection: - No Thanks Office: - No Thanks Benchmarking: - No Thanks Install/Test Game: - No Thanks LCD Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks my keyboard comes with a mouse External Storage: - No Thanks Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty a velociraptor would be a good upgrade also Edited by DST4ME - 30 Sep 2008 at 5:46pm
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Clinton Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 08 Sep 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 298	Quote Reply Posted: 30 Sep 2008 at 5:55pm
	He's picked out a killer rig for you. Agree with everything there. You will love the HAF case.


ctjones Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 30 Sep 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 39	Quote Reply Posted: 30 Sep 2008 at 6:06pm
	Thankyou for the help, I just had a few questions: Why would I not want optical drives? Is overclocking needed? I'm sort of new to the whole overclocking thing so I was just wondering if this was something that all computers were automatically doing.

DST4ME Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758	Quote Reply Posted: 30 Sep 2008 at 6:07pm
	that q9650 is a great chip, its almost a qx9650 but without the price tag and should land people closer to 3.8 or 4.0 range
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ctjones Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 30 Sep 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 39	Quote Reply Posted: 30 Sep 2008 at 6:15pm
	On the config you sent me, you showed no optical drives and overclocking the processor and memory. I just had a few questions: Why would I not want optical drives? Is overclocking needed? I'm sort of new to the whole overclocking thing so I was just wondering if this was something that all computers were automatically doing.

ctjones Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 30 Sep 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 39	Quote Reply Posted: 30 Sep 2008 at 6:27pm
	Here is my updated config: Ticket Number: 189188 Total Price with Instant Savings: $2,674.00 Chassis: Cooler Master HAF 932 Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Power Supply: 750W Corsair HX (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition) Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83GHz (1333MHz FSB) (12MB Cache) Motherboard: nVidia 790i Ultra Core 2 Quad (nForce 790i Ultra SLI) (DDR3 Only) System Memory: 4GB DDR3 1333MHz OCZ Card Reader: - No Thanks Hard Drive 1: 300GB Western Digital VelociRaptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (Extreme Speed) Hard Drive 2: 500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA) Raid Option: - No Thanks Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: DVD-ROM/CD-ROM (DVD Reader 16x / CD Reader 40x) Optical Drive 2: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) Wireless Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 896MB (Includes PhysX Technology) TV Tuner: - No Thanks Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: Liquid Chilled FrostBite CPU Only Internal Lighting: - No Thanks Modifications: - No Thanks Boost Processor: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my processor Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory Tweak Windows: Yes, Disable and tweak all of the non-crucial services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows XP Home (Includes Service Pack 2) Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based) Protection: - No Thanks Office: - No Thanks Benchmarking: - No Thanks Install/Test Game: - No Thanks LCD Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks my keyboard comes with a mouse External Storage: - No Thanks Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty

BulletStopper Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 09 Sep 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 17	Quote Reply Posted: 30 Sep 2008 at 6:28pm
	From having trolled some, and being somewhat familiar with the recommendations here, I'm sure the optical drive omission was an error. Add a DVD R/RW with lightscribe for $49, but I wouldn't add two, rarely is there a need. As far as memory overclocking, I wouldn't add it, but a memory fan (call for a price, been stated around here about $20) would be a nice addition. If it's 40, or 55 for the fan and overclocking, you need to decide which is better for you. Edited by BulletStopper - 30 Sep 2008 at 6:29pm

DST4ME Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758	Quote Reply Posted: 30 Sep 2008 at 7:05pm
	the DVD was a mistake it should be one there. over clocking is setting in your bios that will make your q9650 3.0GHz run at around 3.8 to 4.0 GHz or possibly higher, In this system OCing the ram will bring better stable results of the over all OC IMO. here you go Ticket# 189227 --- Price: $2761 (To see this build click here) Copy of Specifications: Chassis: Cooler Master HAF 932 Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Power Supply: 750W Corsair HX (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition) Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83GHz (1333MHz FSB) (12MB Cache) Motherboard: nVidia 790i Ultra Core 2 Quad (nForce 790i Ultra SLI) (DDR3 Only) System Memory: 4GB DDR3 1333MHz OCZ Card Reader: - No Thanks Hard Drive 1: 300GB Western Digital VelociRaptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (Extreme Speed) Hard Drive 2: 500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA) Raid Option: - No Thanks Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) (LightScribe Edition) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Wireless Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 896MB (Includes PhysX Technology) TV Tuner: - No Thanks Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: Liquid Chilled FrostBite CPU Only Internal Lighting: - No Thanks Modifications: - No Thanks Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: Yes, Overclock memory timings (Includes Memory Fan Kit Installed) Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts) Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based) Protection: - No Thanks Office: - No Thanks Benchmarking: - No Thanks Install/Test Game: - No Thanks LCD Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks my keyboard comes with a mouse External Storage: - No Thanks Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty Edited by DST4ME - 30 Sep 2008 at 7:08pm
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ctjones Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 30 Sep 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 39	Quote Reply Posted: 30 Sep 2008 at 10:30pm
	Thanks, I had a few questions: -I've been reading that people have been having problems with vista and I was just wondering why vista premium would be the best choice for the windows os? -Under video card, why is the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 not listed? -Is it fine to go with the integrated motherboard audio?

DST4ME Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758	Quote Reply Posted: 30 Sep 2008 at 10:51pm
	nForce 790i has decent audio, so if you are not big on audio you are good to go. problems with OS most times is a matter of conflict with other software. so just because you have a problem with vista does not mean that I will too , what I'm basically saying is that, don't worry about what you read with vista, there is nothing wrong with vista . actually its vista 64 bit premium,. vista 64bit can see and use all of your ram, you got 4GB of ram in sticks and 896MB of ram in your GPU. that is a total of 4.896GB of ram. A 64bit OS will see and use all of that, a 32bit OS will only see 3.5GB total. premium because it can see up to 16GB of ram so if down the road you should find you need 8GB of ram you will see and use all 8 this is not true for the vista 64 bit basic version. Also premium has some features that basic does not you can see them here Edited by DST4ME - 30 Sep 2008 at 10:53pm
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ctjones Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 30 Sep 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 39	Quote Reply Posted: 01 Oct 2008 at 5:20pm
	Here's my new config: Ticket Number: 189404 Total Price with Instant Savings: $2,886.00 Specifications: Chassis: Cooler Master HAF 932 Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Power Supply: 750W Corsair HX (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition) Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83GHz (1333MHz FSB) (12MB Cache) Motherboard: nVidia 790i Ultra Core 2 Quad (nForce 790i Ultra SLI) (DDR3 Only) System Memory: 4GB DDR3 1333MHz OCZ Card Reader: - No Thanks Hard Drive 1: 300GB Western Digital VelociRaptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (Extreme Speed) Hard Drive 2: 500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA) Raid Option: - No Thanks Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) (LightScribe Edition) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Wireless Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 896MB (Includes PhysX Technology) TV Tuner: - No Thanks Sound Card: Razer Barracuda AC-1 (Recommended) Extreme Cooling: Liquid Chilled FrostBite CPU Only Internal Lighting: - No Thanks Modifications: - No Thanks Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: Yes, Overclock memory timings (Includes Memory Fan Kit Installed) Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts) Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based) Protection: - No Thanks Office: - No Thanks Benchmarking: - No Thanks Install/Test Game: - No Thanks LCD Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks my keyboard comes with a mouse External Storage: - No Thanks Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty I can't wait till I get the money for this and I can finally switch out with my current dell computer.

DST4ME Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758	Quote Reply Posted: 01 Oct 2008 at 6:02pm
	looks good
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ctjones Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 30 Sep 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 39	Quote Reply Posted: 04 Oct 2008 at 7:54pm
	Here's a new updated config: Ticket Number: 190460 Total Price with Instant Savings: $2,787.00 Specifications: Chassis: Cooler Master HAF 932 Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Power Supply: 860W PC Power & Cooling (ESA Edition) (Dual SLI Compatible) Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83GHz (1333MHz FSB) (12MB Cache) Motherboard: nVidia 790i Ultra Core 2 Quad (nForce 790i Ultra SLI) (DDR3 Only) System Memory: 4GB DDR3 1333MHz OCZ Card Reader: - No Thanks Hard Drive 1: 300GB Western Digital VelociRaptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (Extreme Speed) Hard Drive 2: 500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA) Raid Option: - No Thanks Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: DVD-ROM/CD-ROM (DVD Reader 16x / CD Reader 40x) Optical Drive 2: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) (LightScribe Edition) Wireless Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 896MB (Includes PhysX Technology) TV Tuner: - No Thanks Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: Air Cooled Stage 2 (Silent Artic Cooling Heat-sink Upgrade (Copper Heatpipes) Internal Lighting: Blizzard Internal Lighting (Blue Edition) (Cold Cathode Tubes) Modifications: - No Thanks Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: Yes, Overclock memory timings (Includes Memory Fan Kit Installed) Tweak Windows: Yes, Disable and tweak all of the non-crucial services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts) Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based) Protection: - No Thanks Office: - No Thanks Benchmarking: - No Thanks Install/Test Game: - No Thanks LCD Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: Logitech 5.1 System (Black Edition) (Model X540) (Includes Subwoofer) Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks External Storage: - No Thanks Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty

DST4ME Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758	Quote Reply Posted: 04 Oct 2008 at 7:59pm
	no liquid cooling? you will get much higher speeds with it, also it will make it easier for you down the road to add another GTX 260. other then that, its a nice system.
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