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    Posted: 11 Oct 2021 at 8:29am
Hello All,

I would appreciate any feedback on the config below for gaming. I was the system to last 7ish years except for extra memory and a new graphics card. Does this config make sense? Anything I should add or scale back on? I wouldn't mind saving a few bucks if possible.

Thanks!


Budget: $4000 +/- 10% excluding monitor and peripherals

Expectations: Last for 5+ Years Except for RAM and Graphics Card

Usage: Gaming

Monitor: LG 34GP950G-B

Saved Ticket #: 4125343

Specifications:
System Configuration:
Chassis Model: Digital Storm Lumos
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X (16-Core) 4.9 GHz Turbo
Motherboard: ASUS ROG Strix X570-E Gaming (Wi-Fi) (AMD X570 Chipset) (Up to 3x PCI-E Devices) (No SLI)
System Memory: 32GB DDR4 3200MHz Digital Storm Performance Series
Power Supply: 850W Digital Storm Performance Series (Modular) (80 Plus Gold)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Optical Drive: - No Thanks
Storage Set 1: 1x SSD M.2 (2TB Samsung 970 EVO PLUS) (NVM Express)
Storage Set 2: 1x SSD M.2 (1TB Digital Storm M.2 Performance Series)
Storage Set 3: - No Thanks
RAID Config: - No Thanks
RAID Card: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce RTX 3080 10GB (VR Ready)
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Add On Card: - No Thanks
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex Liquid CPU Cooler (Dual Fan) (Fully Sealed + No Maintenance)
HydroLux Tubing Style: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected
HydroLux Fluid Color: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected
Cable Management: Premium Cable Management (Strategically Routed & Organized for Airflow)
Chassis Fans: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Remote Controlled Advanced LED Lighting System (Multiple RGB Color Modes)
Software Control: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: Option Not Available
CPU Boost: Stock Factory Turbo Boost Advanced Automatic Overclocking
Graphics: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
OS Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Professional (64-Bit)
Recovery Tools: USB Drive - Windows 10 Installation (Format and Clean Install)
Virus Protection: Windows Defender Antivirus (Built-in to Windows 10)
Office: - No Thanks
Mouse Pad: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
Branded Gear: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 14-21 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Part Replacement)
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  Quote Cretae Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 Oct 2021 at 12:28pm
You have no need of a 5950X for gaming. A 5800x will do nicely and save you $491. Behind an RTX 3080, you'll not need more for the foreseeable future.

I'd rather see you go for a 1 TB Samsung 980 Pro for Drive 1. It's one of the fastest PCIe Gen 4 NVMe drives available. Follow that up with the 970 EVO PLUS 2TB as your main games library, and you'll have a better storage solution IMHO. The DS drive you picked is a SATA part that's 7-10 times slower than either of the NVMe drives, and takes up an M.2 slot for no gain.

Those changes come in a bit above $4100 and I think will be better choices. The 5800X rates very close to performance in gaming to either the 5900x or the 5950X. Those extra cores don't help.



https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-9-5950X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-5800X/4086vs4085

Hope it helps.
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  Quote Onkel_Ken Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 Oct 2021 at 3:42pm
Brute Fotce,

Cretae knows what he is talking about. He helped me configure my system yesterday. Of course I had to upgrade the audio & CPU a tad for my purposes.

I agree with Cretae that the 5950 is overkill and doesn't appear to be the best CPU for gaming value. I went with the 5900 only because I have some scientific and amateur radio stuff I want to do with it in addition to gaming. He recommended the 5800 to me also which would be perfect for you unless you have weird non-gaming science stuff you are going to do with it.

I am so impressed with how helpful the Digital Storm Forum members are in helping people make a good choice while explaining why.

I am so excited now that I pulled the trigger! Your new system will be in line to be shipped slightly behind mine if you order today! I hope you love your new beast like I will like mine.

    
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  Quote Brute Force Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 Oct 2021 at 6:40pm
Originally posted by Cretae

You have no need of a 5950X for gaming. A 5800x will do nicely and save you $491. Behind an RTX 3080, you'll not need more for the foreseeable future.

I'd rather see you go for a 1 TB Samsung 980 Pro for Drive 1. It's one of the fastest PCIe Gen 4 NVMe drives available. Follow that up with the 970 EVO PLUS 2TB as your main games library, and you'll have a better storage solution IMHO. The DS drive you picked is a SATA part that's 7-10 times slower than either of the NVMe drives, and takes up an M.2 slot for no gain.

Those changes come in a bit above $4100 and I think will be better choices. The 5800X rates very close to performance in gaming to either the 5900x or the 5950X. Those extra cores don't help.



https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-9-5950X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-5800X/4086vs4085

Hope it helps.


Thanks for the very helpful feedback. My current DS has lasted me 8 years and I would love to get 8 out of this one too! Any thoughts on the monitor? Are there better options/price point?

Maybe this would be sufficient? LG 34GP83A-B 34 Inch 21: 9 UltraGear Curved QHD (3440 x 1440) 1ms Nano IPS Gaming Monitor with 160Hz and G-SYNC Compatibility


Edited by Brute Force - 12 Oct 2021 at 6:49pm
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  Quote Cretae Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Oct 2021 at 4:37am
I kinda stay out of the monitor recommendations. They are such a matter of personal taste. That said, it's widely regarded that curved widescreens enhance immersion. It's been said they are not to everyone's liking right away and take a little getting used to.

Monitors of every brand are manufactured by a small number of companies. LG is one of those, and very highly regarded.

Between those two, I can't see $600 worth of difference:

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/34gp950g-b

www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/34gp83a-b

Your 3080 is pretty ideal to run a 1440p widescreen. No worries there. I think while gaming you'll not do a lot of sitting back and admiring the subtle nuances of one panel over another. The teeny 160 vs 180 refresh rate won't matter a bit. Compare the features, and read more reviews.

There are some widescreen users here, and pretty much whatever one they picked, they liked it. Perhaps we'll hear from a few.

Edited by Cretae - 13 Oct 2021 at 4:56am
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  Quote JamesAstro Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Oct 2021 at 11:46am
BruteForce, I haven't owned either of the monitors that you mentioned, but I've had two curved widescreen monitors:

• Acer Predator X34
• LG 38GL950G

I freakin love both of those monitors. I would have no hesitation in buying future gaming monitors from Acer or LG. My gut feeling says that you'll enjoy any large ultrawide curved monitor with these features:

• GSYNC
• IPS
• Refresh rate 100+ Hz
• HDR

Here's a good comparison of the two monitors that you mentioned.

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  Quote Brute Force Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Oct 2021 at 3:04pm
Originally posted by JamesAstro

BruteForce, I haven't owned either of the monitors that you mentioned, but I've had two curved widescreen monitors:

• Acer Predator X34
• LG 38GL950G

I freakin love both of those monitors. I would have no hesitation in buying future gaming monitors from Acer or LG. My gut feeling says that you'll enjoy any large ultrawide curved monitor with these features:

• GSYNC
• IPS
• Refresh rate 100+ Hz
• HDR

Here's a good comparison of the two monitors that you mentioned.

Rtings Comparison


Thanks for the feedback and link to the review! Very helpful. According to the review: "The 34GP950G is a native G-SYNC monitor, whereas the 34GP83A-B is just G-SYNC compatible, so if you have an NVIDIA graphics card and want to get the most out of it, the 34GP950G might be the better choice." Not that up to speed on all of this stuff. Does native G-Sync versus G-Sync compatible matter?
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  Quote Brute Force Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Oct 2021 at 3:05pm
Originally posted by Cretae

You have no need of a 5950X for gaming. A 5800x will do nicely and save you $491. Behind an RTX 3080, you'll not need more for the foreseeable future.

I'd rather see you go for a 1 TB Samsung 980 Pro for Drive 1. It's one of the fastest PCIe Gen 4 NVMe drives available. Follow that up with the 970 EVO PLUS 2TB as your main games library, and you'll have a better storage solution IMHO. The DS drive you picked is a SATA part that's 7-10 times slower than either of the NVMe drives, and takes up an M.2 slot for no gain.

Those changes come in a bit above $4100 and I think will be better choices. The 5800X rates very close to performance in gaming to either the 5900x or the 5950X. Those extra cores don't help.



https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-9-5950X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-5800X/4086vs4085


Here's the update build. Did I get it right?

Chassis Model: Digital Storm Lumos
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X (8-Core) 4.7 GHz Turbo
Motherboard: ASUS ROG Strix X570-E Gaming (Wi-Fi) (AMD X570 Chipset) (Up to 3x PCI-E Devices) (No SLI)
System Memory: 32GB DDR4 3200MHz Digital Storm Performance Series
Power Supply: 850W Digital Storm Performance Series (Modular) (80 Plus Gold)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Optical Drive: - No Thanks
Storage Set 1: 1x SSD M.2 (1TB Samsung 980 PRO) (NVM Express)
Storage Set 2: 1x SSD M.2 (2TB Samsung 970 EVO PLUS) (NVM Express)
Storage Set 3: - No Thanks
RAID Config: - No Thanks
RAID Card: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce RTX 3080 10GB (VR Ready)
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Add On Card: - No Thanks
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex Liquid CPU Cooler (Dual Fan) (Fully Sealed + No Maintenance)
HydroLux Tubing Style: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected
HydroLux Fluid Color: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected
Cable Management: Premium Cable Management (Strategically Routed & Organized for Airflow)
Chassis Fans: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Remote Controlled Advanced LED Lighting System (Multiple RGB Color Modes)
Software Control: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: Option Not Available
CPU Boost: Stock Factory Turbo Boost Advanced Automatic Overclocking
Graphics: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
OS Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Professional (64-Bit)
Recovery Tools: USB Drive - Windows 10 Installation (Format and Clean Install)
Virus Protection: Windows Defender Antivirus (Built-in to Windows 10)
Office: - No Thanks
Mouse Pad: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
Branded Gear: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 14-21 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Part Replacement)


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Edited by Snaike - 13 Oct 2021 at 3:32pm
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  Quote Cretae Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Oct 2021 at 4:19am
That will be great IMHO. If you care about bling, the Lumos is glass all around so the RGB fans look pretty nice. My rig is on the floor, so I wouldn't spring for them, but i thought I'd mention it.

The 3080 is overpowered a bit, but I think that's just what you seem to want for the extra pixels in a 34" monitor and highest framerates.

There is a very subtle difference between G-Sync and G-Sync compatible. it's not worth paying for IMHO. The drawback is that G-Sync won't function on an AMD GPU if you ever wanted one. It may not seem like that would happen now, but monitors tend to last for longer than one system. You never know. With the extra power in your GPU, you will never have an issue with screen tearing or stutter/judder.

I repeat, I don't see anything like a $600 difference between those monitors. Don't waste your money. I'd wager you'd never tell the difference side-by-side.
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  Quote Brute Force Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Oct 2021 at 8:59am
Originally posted by Cretae

That will be great IMHO. If you care about bling, the Lumos is glass all around so the RGB fans look pretty nice. My rig is on the floor, so I wouldn't spring for them, but i thought I'd mention it.

The 3080 is overpowered a bit, but I think that's just what you seem to want for the extra pixels in a 34" monitor and highest framerates.

There is a very subtle difference between G-Sync and G-Sync compatible. it's not worth paying for IMHO. The drawback is that G-Sync won't function on an AMD GPU if you ever wanted one. It may not seem like that would happen now, but monitors tend to last for longer than one system. You never know. With the extra power in your GPU, you will never have an issue with screen tearing or stutter/judder.

I repeat, I don't see anything like a $600 difference between those monitors. Don't waste your money. I'd wager you'd never tell the difference side-by-side.


One final question. If I need a slightly smaller chassis which one would you recommend? DS recommended https://www.digitalstorm.com/configurator.asp?id=4129801 which has the DS Slade X Chassis


Edited by Brute Force - 14 Oct 2021 at 9:31am
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  Quote JamesAstro Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Oct 2021 at 12:11pm
Originally posted by Brute Force

Thanks for the feedback and link to the review! Very helpful. According to the review: "The 34GP950G is a native G-SYNC monitor, whereas the 34GP83A-B is just G-SYNC compatible, so if you have an NVIDIA graphics card and want to get the most out of it, the 34GP950G might be the better choice." Not that up to speed on all of this stuff. Does native G-Sync versus G-Sync compatible matter?


This web page summarizes the differences between G-SYNC and G-SYNC Compatible:

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/g-sync-monitors/

It looks like the difference is mostly about the level of certification.

The LG 34GP83A-B looks pretty temping for the price. It has a lower level of HDR support than the 34GP950G, but otherwise it looks quite comparable.
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JamesAstro & Cretae are presenting some serious technical assessment and appropriate advice in this thread. I haven't seen this type of precision discussion carried on since I retired 7 years ago.

I was a former Network Designer & Systems Administrator at Boeing and you guys' Forum advice remind me of the professional caliber advice that was offered at work during a crisis. RESPECT!!!



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