Considering this - still undecidedPost Date: 2010-03-02 |
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Marathongman 
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 Topic: Considering this - still undecidedPosted: 02 Mar 2010 at 1:14am |
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Chassis Model: Cooler Master Elite 310 (Black OPS Edition) |
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DST4ME
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Posted: 02 Mar 2010 at 1:44am |
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not a good build at all, you can spend your money better to get more for it and have the same or better performance, what is your budget? and what resolution will you be gaming at?
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Marathongman
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Posted: 02 Mar 2010 at 9:27am |
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I'm figuring 4000 - bringing it down to about 3700 after discount. - not really into large monitors probably no more than 20 inches - resolution high. Would like to hold out for new nvidia fermi.
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cheebamaster
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Posted: 02 Mar 2010 at 11:55am |
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Chassis Model: Cooler Master HAF 932 (Black OPS Edition)
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core) Motherboard: EVGA X58 LE Edition SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports SLI or CrossFire) System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested) Power Supply: 1000W Corsair (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) Expansion Bay: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (160GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Extreme Performance) (Model: SSDSA2MH160G2R5) Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (2TB Western Digital (7200 RPM) (64MB Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed WD2001FASS 2TB) Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 22x / CD-Writer 48x) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: 1x ATI Radeon HD 5870 1GB Add-on Card: - No Thanks Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-D14 Extreme Performance (Does NOT fit on the regular EVGA X58 3X SLI) H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Blue) Enhancements: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Noise Reduction: - No Thanks Boost Processor: FREE: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Requires Air Cooling Upgrade) Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based) Virus Protection: - No Thanks Office: - No Thanks Benchmarking: - No Thanks Install/Test Game: - No Thanks Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks External Storage: - No Thanks Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Large) Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty ticket # 389306 Intel SSD x25-M are one of the fastest and most reliable drives if you have 4k to spill grabbing one of these is easily worth it. Since your primary drive is only 160gb the secondary drive is 2 tb and good for storage/media etc...the secondary drive is also a really good fast drive much better than the 1tb 32mb cache drives Corsair 1000 PSU > Enermax and is MORE than enough for your need...enermax is overkill I put 1x 5870 in there which should be more than enough for max settingif you're gaming at a screen 20" or lower which will probably wont be 1900x1200 resolution. If you want you can get the system without a video card and order the fermi when it comes out and self install which is pretty easy to do The Asetek liquid cooling system is pretty crappy. The Air stage 2 Noctua D14 will give better temps. Boost OS won't do much for you and could potentially cause problems (with the SSD drive for your Operating system it'll be fast as hell already) DS doesn't overclock the cards much to notice any difference from what I hear and you wont see more than 1-2 fps gains in exchange for more heat. |
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justin.kerr
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Posted: 02 Mar 2010 at 12:00pm |
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with a 20" monitor, you will not need a Fermi, a 5850 will max out any game out there is now, or in the foreseeable future.
cheebamaster's build is ok, drop to a 5850 and a 750 watt power supply.
Corsair over Enermax, that is just opinion, no truth, the Enermax Evo is a good power supply and if this rig was to ever run 3 GPU's it would be much preferred over the Corsair, because of cross loading issues with 3 cards.
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Marathongman
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Posted: 02 Mar 2010 at 12:49pm |
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My girlfriend is set on - 2 nvidia gtx 285 video cards
what about stepping down on the second hard drive?
If I had my way I like the Hailstorm case
Ultimately I would like to build my own I can do the work but coming up with a parts list is my stumbling block
Have my eye on an MSI - Big Bang fuzion
And last but not least
Thank You both very much I like both of your ideas especially the SSD drive
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justin.kerr
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Posted: 02 Mar 2010 at 1:20pm |
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2 285's would be just a pain in the butt with that build, do one, and that is overkill for that monitor size
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Marathongman
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Posted: 02 Mar 2010 at 2:04pm |
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I have at my disposal a Dell XPS 720 or 730 but anyway It has a Nvidia GTX 8800 card. I also have a Dell Precision 380 Workstation that is 3.73 gh. I have hard drives plus an Iomega external super dvd etc burner /writer - The 380 workstation hsa a Nvidia Quadro fx I forget the Model #-
Can I salvage anything from them they are all in working order
Thank you for the helpful info - I'm not crazy about 2 / 285's myself
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DST4ME
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Posted: 02 Mar 2010 at 3:54pm |
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as justin said, your monitor's res is only at 1600 x 1200 to run games at highest settings all you need is 1 x 5850.
some info I'm an nvidia fan but I'm a fan of performance first. 285 does not support dx11,this means that games that are dx10 or dx11 will have much better peformance with the 5850. 285 is only about 4 fps better then a 275, in short when you get a 285, you are spending lot of money for no reason. at your res, if I came in the middle of the night and removed one of the two 285-s you would never know the difference. at your res, if I came in the middle of the night and changed one or two 285-s to a 275 you would never know the difference. the same goes for changing the 285 with a 5850. in short why spend so much money and get less performance/same performance? whatever you want to pull out of the other pcs (HDD, media drives, etc) will all work in the new one. you can use your 8800 for physx if you like. this system will give you all you need and remember: HDD1 = fast drive: os/apps/games HDD2 = regular large drive: media/personal/work file storage Don't fill up your HDD1 more then 50%, if think you will need more room for it then pick a bigger one. Here you go Ticket# 389371 --- Price: $2869 (To see this build click here) Price after current promotion $2869 Copy of Specifications: Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master HAF 932 Exterior Finish: - Not Available Trim Accents: - Not Available Processor: Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core) Motherboard: !SALE: EVGA X58 3X SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports Triple SLI or CrossFire) System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested) Power Supply: 750W Corsair TX (Dual SLI Compatible) Expansion Bay: - Not Available Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (256GB Solid State (By: Corsair) (Model: CMFSSD-256GBG2D) Set 1 Raid Options: - Not Available Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Seagate/Hitachi/Western Digital (7200 RPM) (32MB Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed) Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 22x / CD-Writer 48x) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: 1x ATI Radeon HD 5850 1GB Add-on Card: - No Thanks Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 1: Noctua Dual 120mm Fans High Performance Cooler (Compatible With ONLY i7 Processors) H20 Tube Color:- Not Available Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Red) Enhancements: - Not Available Chassis Mods: - Not Available Noise Reduction: - Not Available Boost Processor: FREE: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Requires Air Cooling Upgrade) Boost Video Card: - Not Available Boost Memory: - Not Available Boost OS: - Not Available Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (64-Bit Edition) Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based) Virus Protection: - Not Available Office: - Not Available Benchmarking: - Not Available Install/Test Game: - Not Available Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks External Storage: - No Thanks Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-10 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty Edited by DST4ME - 02 Mar 2010 at 3:55pm |
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justin.kerr
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Posted: 02 Mar 2010 at 4:01pm |
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also his res should be more like 1600 x 900 or 1440 x 900 so a 5850 will rape games at tht res. I know some monitors have different res for the same size, but he did say max of 20"
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Posted: 02 Mar 2010 at 4:12pm |
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Ya I agree, I think 5850 is more then enough
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Marathongman
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Posted: 02 Mar 2010 at 8:21pm |
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Those are all good ideas and you have got me thinking. At that price I could easily spend a bit more. I don't like "Sale items" usually means soon to be discounted would you like to tweak it a bit with say another 4 to 5 hundred? Thank you for your time and effort
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Marathongman
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Posted: 02 Mar 2010 at 8:31pm |
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I really like what you have put together. I've done the math and could go as high as $3500 with or without discount. Keep in mind that I may not be able to spend this kind of money in the future so I am trying to get the latest things now . That is why I may wait for Fermi
Thank you very much
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DST4ME
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Posted: 03 Mar 2010 at 1:59am |
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there will be no performance change so honestly I got nothing to add that you will see a difference from.
fermi is a bit away like a month or so. the x58 is a great board, the next one up from it is the classified, for your use you will see no difference from it. |
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