core i7 or i5Post Date: 2009-12-23 |
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Rickv8z 
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 Topic: core i7 or i5Posted: 23 Dec 2009 at 2:02pm |
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shoud I go with an i5 or i7 core...any thoughts |
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justin.kerr
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Posted: 23 Dec 2009 at 2:12pm |
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if the budget allows,no question go i7.. if the budget does not allow, the 860 is a good chip, and will make a decent PC.
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Rickv8z
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Posted: 23 Dec 2009 at 2:18pm |
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thanks for the help, I'm trying to stay in the 1,500 area
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justin.kerr
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Posted: 23 Dec 2009 at 2:24pm |
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the I5 is a good setup for the money, when trying to shave those last few $$'s
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philiporphillip
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Posted: 23 Dec 2009 at 6:21pm |
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the i5 is good. the i7 is better.
there will never be the 'best' processor b/c there will always be a new 1 coming out soon. it's inevitable.
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DST4ME
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Posted: 23 Dec 2009 at 6:54pm |
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if you go with i5 or i7 that run on p55 platform, down the road you can't upgrade the cpu for dirt cheap, which is like getting a new faster pc for fraction of a cost of a pc.
if you go with i7 on x58 platform you can upgrade the cpu. I would go with the 920. |
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justin.kerr
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Posted: 23 Dec 2009 at 7:14pm |
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so says the person who paid for an i7 an neutered it to i5 performance.
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DST4ME
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Posted: 23 Dec 2009 at 7:17pm |
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not so mr assumption, the pc is not here yet and the final decision has not been made either, last time I checked ht will be on
but even with it off, I can still upgrade to a 6core  Edited by DST4ME - 23 Dec 2009 at 7:18pm |
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justin.kerr
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Posted: 23 Dec 2009 at 7:24pm |
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good, I hope all my poking would get you to have HT on.
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DST4ME
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Posted: 23 Dec 2009 at 8:50pm |
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lol I probably will
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justin.kerr
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Posted: 23 Dec 2009 at 9:08pm |
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good. lol if you can't get 4.4+ghz stable with HT on send it to me, I will get it there for free, + the $50 you will owe me in a month.
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DST4ME
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Posted: 23 Dec 2009 at 9:14pm |
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I'm dreading that $50
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Raif
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Posted: 24 Dec 2009 at 1:52am |
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nice choice in word justin.... neuter i'm sorry i am still cracking up over it. dst why would you want to turn your hyper threading off
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Captain Francis
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Posted: 24 Dec 2009 at 4:53am |
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From what I gathered it was to crank the Ghz to 4.4 and still be stable.
My question would be why? What would be the advantage of giving up HT in favor of squeezing out that last few (relatively) mhz? Some special application or something? |
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justin.kerr
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Posted: 24 Dec 2009 at 10:09am |
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with windows XP, HT off will result in better performance, with windows Vista, most apps see a very slight gain with HT on, some a slight loss, and very few, a nice gain. With windows 7 HT on will result in a decent gain across the board. So as the OS mature, they are getting more optimized for hyper threading. So if you are running Vista at 4.Ghz with HT on, or 4.4Ghz with HT off, overall you will prolly be better off with HT off. With windows 7, I would always use HT on.
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Captain Francis
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Posted: 24 Dec 2009 at 11:09am |
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Ah, I see.
I guess HT isn't as impressive as I thought it was. Then again, I'm still stuck in P4 HT thinking, my current comp. If you only have 1 core to begin with, I guess it's more important. |
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justin.kerr
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Posted: 24 Dec 2009 at 11:17am |
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HT on the i7 is much improved over the HT on the P4, there are some apps that see 70% gains with HT.
HT is pretty impressive to me, what is holding it back is the OS and the apps.
I gained 40% more FPS in Crysis warhead with having HT on, in widows 7, with all other settings the same.... That is a massive gain if you ask me. This was done on a pretty demanding system, I don't know about results on a more typical setup.
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Captain Francis
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Posted: 24 Dec 2009 at 11:24am |
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Now that I think of it, I guess I never had my HT turned off. I simply went from a PII to a P4 with HT.
And yeah, I would say 40% qualifies as massive gain. Pretty cool. Still waiting as patiently as possible for my new rig, then I can see what an i7 can do. |
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Raif
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Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 3:11pm |
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it is gonna be night and day compared to your p4 and tour gonna wonder why you didn't spend that $$$ sooner lol.
i went from a pentium m to a core duo in april (cheap $600 dell comp from microcenter since mine died and i needed something to hold me over.) and i was very impressed. your going to see much bigger benefits then i did and you are going to be a pig in shyt. |
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Raif
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Posted: 29 Dec 2009 at 3:16pm |
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btw thanks for the clarification on the nuetering...when my warranty expires in april if i still have not ordered my ds system (still waiting on some funds) would somone help me out with overclocking her a lil i was thinking from 2.5 to 2.8 since i do not have a cooling system and i doubt this thing has good airration i don't want to push her too high.
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2.5 Ghz Core duo
Nvidia 9500 gt 3 gb 1033 Mhz ram if we can't answer a question shoot a e-mail here. [email protected] |
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