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    Posted: 24 Aug 2017 at 9:48am
Hi. This is not a customer support beef, I'm quite happy with DS warranty handling of my system. This is a Slade I ordered in January of 2015. Last year I noticed overheating and worked with customer support and we determined that I should put new thermal paste on the cpu/cooler. I did so and temperatures dropped as expected.

Lately, my system is running hot again. If I play my game of choice (Star Wars:The Old Republic) temps are logging in the 80C+ range routinely and I see peeks up into the high 90C range.

Just sitting here typing this, my system is at 40C.

I cleaned the system even though all the fans and vents were clear. I replaced the front intake fans with a pair of Corsair branded fans and I *feel* a perceptible difference in the intake when I hold my hand in front of the fans.

I've also reset the CPU multiplier to 40. I ordered the CPU and GPU overclocked and other than when I experience this heat problem or get a bad driver from NVIDIA, the system is rock solid.

I know I can reapply thermal paste, but every six months seems a bit often. Is it? Web searches were inconclusive.

How would I diagnose if there is a problem with the CPU cooling unit?

Advice? My slade config on the DS site, but I've extracted the meat below.

Thanks in advance,

Pertinent specs:

Corsair Obsidian 550D
Intel Core i7 4790K 4.0 GHz (Codename Devils Canyon) (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core)
ASUS SABERTOOTH Z97 MARK2 (Intel Z97 Chipset) (Military-Grade TUF Components)
16GB DDR3 2133MHz
850W EVGA SuperNOVA
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 4GB (Includes PhysX)
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex 120mm Radiator Liquid CPU Cooler (High-Performance Edition)
Standard Factory Chassis Fans
No Airflow Control
Noise Suppression Package Stage 1 (Optimized Airflow & Fan Speeds Only)
CPU Boost: Stage 1: Overclock CPU 4.0GHz to 4.4GHz
Graphics Boost: Yes, Overclock the video card(s) as much as possible with complete stability
Memory Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
1/9/2015 Thank You
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Aug 2017 at 10:34am
If you find yourself having to replace the thermal paste that often I wonder if the cpu cooler itself is running, but not where it should.  It could be, just a guess of course, that the pump assembly that sits on the cpu isn't and maybe never was 100%.

If cpu temps keep creeping up over time then it is most likely the cooler itself or just some bad or poorly applied paste.   Too much paste can actually act as an insulator and not conductive.   It only needs a small pea size drop, if that, size thermal paste, spread evenly, to get the job done.  

If the paste looks good, only a small amount and not dried out, then I'd consider a new cooler.   

When you cleaned the system, make sure you blew out the small spaces in the radiator behind the fan.  That's where dust will clog and prevent airflow for cooling.

Hope this helps. Big%20Smile
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  Quote txbrumley Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Aug 2017 at 1:50pm
Yeah, I blew out the tiny radiator gaps. I'll try paste again before I look to replace the cooler. Any recommendations pro or con? The system is 32 months old, I figure there are better units available these days.
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  Quote FR3SHM3AT Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Aug 2017 at 2:32pm
I would replace the entire AIO.

I bet that pump even though it should last five years is
probably giving you some trouble. They usually don't put
the greatest pumps in AIO. Though I am sure DS uses the best,
but just like CPU's and graphics cards sometimes you get a bad one.

Just a thought but certainly hope you get it all worked out.


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  Quote txbrumley Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Aug 2017 at 3:10pm
Originally posted by FR3SHM3AT

I would replace the entire AIO.
I bet that pump even though it should last five years is
probably giving you some trouble. They usually don't put
the greatest pumps in AIO. Though I am sure DS uses the best,
but just like CPU's and graphics cards sometimes you get a bad one.


Yeah, that happens from time to time. Time to start looking. Tom's hardware has current reviews, prices don't look bad, just need to find one that seems good and I can install.

They don't have H20s here anymore, anyone have any opinion on the Corsair H60?
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Aug 2017 at 11:02pm
Tom's hardware is bs. Look at anandtech for creditable reviews.

I would just go noctua if i were you, but if you want corsair aio then go with h115i
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  Quote txbrumley Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Aug 2017 at 4:53am
Originally posted by DST4ME

Tom's hardware is bs. Look at anandtech for creditable reviews.

I would just go noctua if i were you, but if you want corsair aio then go with h115i


I'm nowhere near currently technically competent enough to tell the difference between those two sites. There are several spammy clickbaitish sites that clog up searches.

I only have room for one 140mm exhaust fan if I go the AIO route. Noctua is strictly air cooled, right?
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Aug 2017 at 5:08am
Yes noctua is an awesome air cooler.

Fyi you have room on top for a dual 140mm fans.


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  Quote txbrumley Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Aug 2017 at 6:15am
I went with the Corsair H90. I wasn't comfortable with the space topside for dual fans. I cranked graphics back up to ultra on my game (which being old doesn't use the GPU as well as it should) and temps are nice and cool.

I'll put overclocking back on at some point, but the stock processor itself is overkill for my usage :)

Thanks everyone for the comments/advice.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Aug 2017 at 5:58pm
Glad you got it figured out our pleasure and good luck
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  Quote db188 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 29 Aug 2017 at 4:59pm
just as a reference point, a 120/140mm rad really isn't beefy enough for oc'ing procs, it's more just an alternative to an air cooler for running at stock clocks.  a 240mm rad is recommended for a modest oc and a 360mm (i know that case doesn't support one) for really pushing things.  
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