cpu temp concern

Hi all I just got my bolt 3 yesterday(it looks fantastic btw) I ran Linx as well as Heaven my cpu temp went from 60c on heaven to about 85-98 on Linx. Now I'm not a expert but I know that the temp that showed while running Linx's is not good. my cpu and gpu are both water cooled ( max temp for gpu is 45c under load)I'm rather curious if that's normal for this case or if its the cpu block itself that's not working    

I got the stage one overclock on the cpu

LinX is a power virus and is not an ideal way to check for system temps, the amount of load that puts on the processor is not real world usage and can damage your processor.

If you want to check your CPU temps, use a utility like AIDA64.

I wont be using prime 95 ever haha... cpu went up to 98c. but after tightening the cpu block till I herd a click, and making sure the cables were nice and snug the temps fluctuate from mid 40's to mid 80's using linx. I still find it odd tho that the cpu gets up to 65c during heavy gaming while the gpu stays at 35c. I suppose that could be normal or a cpu paste issue



Edited by Sly2518 - 04 Aug 2016 at 1:47pm

We do not suggest running Prime95 or LinX on the PCs for extended time periods, especially if you have an overclocked PC. A few minutes is fine, after that, you're simply punishing the hardware with an unnecessary load.

We've been doing this for over 12+ years. Systems that are stable with stress-testing utilities like Prime95 or even LinX can show stability issues with certain applications and games as those tools are designed to run a very specific segment of code to deliver maximum thermal load on components.

Um Alex while I respect the amount of years you guys are doing this, but I can't find one person in an oc forum that will say that you got a stable oc without running prime 95 for at least 12 hours for stability. keep in mind I don't think people like db/FO61/Me and some others started ocing yesterday either, so with all due respect we have some experience also.

If your oc passed prime 95, linx and couple of other stress test and passes, After that if an app creates stability issues, that has to do with the codes for that particular app, or the amount of resources that app is asking for and not the stability of the system.



Edited by DST4ME - 04 Aug 2016 at 4:48pm

I'm sorry to hear this Alex, The entire OC community disagrees with you.

Nobody uses prime95 for quick stability test, prime needs to run for a good while to find problems.

I know I/many can/have oc a 6700K with noctua and have good temps with prime and linx. We can easily do this with DS systems also.

If DS does not like to use prime or linx that fine but that says something about DS's OC to the oc community.


So you don't want us to tell customers to run linx or prime95, 2 baisc apps used to test oc, that is fine, but with all due respect lets call a rabbit a rabbit and not a donkey, aka there is nothing wrong with linx or prime for stability and temps tests, with proper oc settings any system can handle them.

Again If you don't want us to recommend users to properly test their temps that is fine but a rabbit is not a donkey and linx or prime are not viruses.

Originally posted by wiki Popular stress tests include Prime95, Everest, Superpi, OCCT, AIDA64, Linpack (via the LinX and IntelBurnTest GUIs), SiSoftware Sandra, BOINC, Intel Thermal Analysis Tool and Memtest86. The hope is that any functional-correctness issues with the overclocked component will show up during these tests, and if no errors are detected during the test, the component is then deemed "stable". Since fault coverage is important in stability testing, the tests are often run for long periods of time, hours or even days. An overclocked computer is sometimes described using the number of hours and the stability program used, such as "prime 12 hours stable".

The stability and temps are tested at the same time, if your pc crashes during the test it could be from temps, so one has to make sure the temps stay within limits during the test so its not just stability.

A system that does not throw errors on prime or linx or other software but has high temps and thus gets hot and shuts down has a problem. A system that keeps shutting down during stability testing due to high temps is not called a stable system.



Edited by DST4ME - 05 Aug 2016 at 1:45pm

Originally posted by EdgeCrusher I feel sorry for Alex and DS sometimes that they have to put up with you DST4ME. You spend all day in these forums posting to as many topics as many times as you can and most of it is pretty worthless garbage or ranting on and on about Noctua cooling or whatever. Being the most prolific poster in the forums don't get you anything special. Your preferences and opinions are your own and by no means the bottom line. I'm not sure why you think being a "verified customer" gives you the right to argue with DS costumer support agent in their own forums. Most of these people posting want to hear from them, not you. I haven't been back to these forums long and since then you have completely got on my nerves and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Stop choking every thread with the same posts over and over. /rant

Your assumptions are funny and very wrong, but that is what happens when you jump to snap judgment without knowing all the facts.

That is the second time you have personally attacked me, please familiarize yourself with forum rules and refrain from personal attacks.

I can save you some time by telling you that you are wasting your time I only care about what people I respect say, and I don't know you,so far with 2 personal attacks I'm having a hard time finding a reason to, but I don't jump to conclusions so quick.

Have good day and good luck

I always tell everybody to do their own research, but if anybody has questions about nocta they can have a look here




So again for the people reading this, never just take anybody's word for anything do a little research on creditable sites like anandtech, techpowerup, guru3d, evga, sites like that and see the results for yourself, stay away from bs sites like tomshardware.

Edited by DST4ME - 05 Aug 2016 at 10:59pm

Snaike well I hope that is not toward me, cause I would not call somebody who builds pcs for many people for many years, an "enthusiasts"

Also I find it useful to not listen to ford tell me they have the best car and instead listen to the company, customers and do my own homework. Otherwise every company believes they have the best, ford says they have the best, hyundai says they have the best... and then there is the conflict of interest. customer reviews are very important as they are free of conflict of interest.

But to each his own.

Edited by DST4ME - 05 Aug 2016 at 11:40pm

Well for me I don't follow anybody just because they said something. I don't care who the person is, if they want me to believe something they have to show me. You want me to believe 2+2=5 show me otherwise I'm sticking 2+2=4 till somebody shows me different.

You are right opinion are like a nose, but if 90% conclusion/opinion of unbiased people is one way based on many years of test/use and 10% on the other side, I go with the 90%, again until they prove me wrong.

For example snaike if you like I can prove this to you, if you like when I have time or if you are in the area and so am I, I would be more then happy to on my dime build a pc in front of you real quick (cheap basic one) and then run linx and prime95 of on it all day long with proper oc settings and cooling, and I promise you that nothing will happen to my pc, why? simple if you set the oc correctly then pc will not get too hot, cause when you do, you go back and tweak the oc to the point where its stable and not over 80c. But wait there is more, if my pc gets damaged in any way I will pay you $200. Oh and also I promise you once I set the oc and do my test and say that "this pc is stable" you can run just about whatever you want on that pc and the pc will be stable aka no crash due to errors or heat. Now if my pc can do all the stress test without crashing, you tell me who's pc is stable, aka won't cash under stress or overheat.

that is called putting my money where my mouth is.

on the opposite of that I can do a lazy oc, have it pass with aid64 but not prime or linx.

Also again while you are right about opinion, some things are not, for example its not an opinion that you don't need more then 4 cores right now for gaming, this is based on the fact that when we test games we don't see them go beyond 4 cores, so that is not an opinion. Or the fact that titan is overkill for 1440p or 1080op again that is based on the fact that at a certain point more fps become obsolete(depending). Noctua vs hi for example is another, I can show bench after bench from creditable unbiased sites that show noctua matching the corsair, so that is not an opinion after every test yields the same results we are looking at a fact.

So yes there are some opinions on the forums but its important to distinguish when there is an opinion and when there is a fact. The more one distinquishes the closer to facts one gets, and to do that is very easy, when someone tells you "you only need a 4 core for games" simply say ok, head over to anandtech for example real quick and see what the results of their bench test is for a 4 core vs a higher core in many games.( this should take one literally one minute)

I use the word "you" above a lot and by that I didn't mean you snaike I mean you as in anybody.

Edited by DST4ME - 06 Aug 2016 at 12:45am

Ok I see there is some misunderstanding on your part, so let me clarify perhaps I didn't do a good job.

To test the stability of your pc (errors and heat), you run linx and prime.

here is what they do in a general way, they both test your cpu for errors and they do so by putting it under heavy load, this helps us find the proper point for your oc in this manner:

1. if the oc setting is not correct you will get an error or bsod.

2. if the temps are too high for your system with this oc the pc will shutdown or you will see your temps on hwmonitor or realtemp go above 80c.

now here are simple rules for oc, or your cpu and gpu:

While they are rated for max temp of higher then 100c, we only accept 80c temp under load for cpu/gpu (you know this one).

So now if say I am or you are or DS is or vladimir putin is doing an oc, no matter who is doing it, you set your settings for the oc and now you have to test those settings to make sure they are good and solid. You do this by running prime95 for example for 12 to 24 hours some like 72 hours, reasoning is that if prime keeps crunching numbers and there is no crash for 24 hours then odds are 99% that you have gone thru everything and prime has found no errors, now in the meantime you need to keep an eye out for temps, normally it does not take too long to get to above 80c if the settings are not correct so its not like you have to watch prime run for 24hours.

now lets say you ran prime for 24hours, no errors and max temps are below 80c, you my friend have found yourself a stable oc, do another quick check with linx, Geekbench, aid64 if you like to double check your prime results.

the problem with aid64 is that it does not stress the cpu that much so we never get to test the max temps properly, so where after passing prime you can throw whatever at the pc and not have heat issues, you can't do/say the same with something like aid64.

Now you bring up a good point, that the user may not know all that, but:

That is fine since that is the reason we come to DS to get our pc, so that they do the ocing and testing so that we don't have to. Having said that when we ask you to run aid64 or prime95 or linx, or ibt, there is nothing that can hurt your pc as mentioned before because:

1. your pc will shutdown if it gets too hot to protect itself.

2. it should not get to that point because we always instruct you to look at your temp while running these and if it goes above 85c stop the app and tell us.

that is it, I'm sure you can manage looking at real temp and stoping a test or say prime95 all together if you see your cpu/core temps get to 85c, keep in mind you have to get to 105c+ and let it run at 105c+ for bit before you fry your cpu, but we are never getting close to that.

Also snaike if you come here and ask me to check your oc temp, how would you like me to do that without my oc temp checking tools? I need something to stress the heck out of your cpu to see if your temp goes above 80c without something to do that I can't test your oc temps.

so again the hard part of doing the oc and stress test is not yours to do.

Stressing your cpu with one app while you look for 85c in another app is extremely easy to follow, and nothing at all like having to oc your cpu yourself.

And as I always say, don't take my word for it, head over to oc forums where very knowledgeable people are, some work for pc makers and some are just long time ocers, and you will see that the consensus is the same whether its a pro that is in the business or the enthusiasts as you put it.

I like to add I would never have nor would I ever ask anybody to do something with "potentially" catastrophic results. Which I can prove, and if I can prove it, its a fact. You can see db188 has asked people to run prime95, others like bp has asked others also tho with bp I'm not sure, there are bunch of us that have asked people to run prime either for stability or temp and I doubt any of them agree that they are asking people to do something with "potentially" catastrophic results. If you can run your browser you can run and stop linx.

If a person can't do a simple task then the problem is not with the app, its with the person that didn't speak up and said "I can't look at my temps and run another app at the same time for 10 - 20 minutes". because if one can't do a simple task of letting an app run while they keep an eye out for temps then they need to tell us that.

If I ask you to put your car in park so I can check your oil and you can't do that and you don't tell me that, then the problem is not me, or my tools or the car, the problem is that you didn't speak up.

Now if what I was doing was in-fact forcing somebody to do some thing that they said they were not comfortable doing I would see what you are saying but that is not the case here. I'm not forcing anybody, I explain to people to make sure to turn off linx/prime when they see their temps go above 80c, I make sure they feel comfortable running it, and if it gets to the threshold the pc will shut itself off if for some reason you can't see that temps are going high.

again Intel has the cpu so that if the tjmax is reached the cpu/system shuts down to prevent damage or throttle down(depending).

As a matter of fact snaike what most of us like to do is set the alarm on realtemp so that if it goes above 80c the alarm will go off this will allow us to not even get to the auto shutoff.

Edited by DST4ME - 06 Aug 2016 at 1:57am

Originally posted by EdgeCrusher I feel sorry for Alex and DS sometimes that they have to put up with you DST4ME. Power virus is a term for the type of program it is. Click the link Alex put in and educate yourself. You spend all day in these forums posting to as many topics as many times as you can and most of it is pretty worthless garbage or ranting on and on about Noctua cooling or whatever. Being the most prolific poster in the forums don't get you anything special. Your preferences and opinions are your own and by no means the bottom line. I'm not sure why you think being a "verified customer" gives you the right to argue with DS costumer support agent in their own forums. Most of these people posting want to hear from them, not you. I haven't been back to these forums long and since then you have completely got on my nerves and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Stop choking every thread with the same posts over and over. /rant

DST means well and he has pretty much been a knowledgeable helper on these forums for years. Also most of these people are also wanting to hear advice from other customers as well just saying.

Edited by ArkansasWoman777 - 06 Aug 2016 at 5:13am

Not your fault. Can't give in to a trol.. best to ignore.


Edited by hoserator - 06 Aug 2016 at 1:10pm

Just to chime in, Prime95 and LinX are good for stability tests, yes. But they are not good for long time periods, which is why we suggest alternative stability test tools that are not as aggressive.

A customer that runs such a tool may mistakenly assume their computer would run at those high temperatures while gaming or during heavy multi-tasking or even heavy rendering tasks. Which is not the case.

Thread closed. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me directly "[email protected]".