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  Quote Solidus1833 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Topic: CPU temps
    Posted: 04 Mar 2013 at 5:10pm
hey guys,, and gal that i know of.... is there a safe temp that cpu's run at while overclocked? like a rule of thumb to shoot for?
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Mar 2013 at 5:14pm
Stay in the 70's or below and your good to go.   Above 80 c and there might be a problem.
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  Quote Solidus1833 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Mar 2013 at 5:15pm
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  Quote Solidus1833 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Mar 2013 at 5:15pm
the DS version of the h100 should be more than enuf for that right?
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  Quote hallowed Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Mar 2013 at 5:19pm
I'm know expert here,but when I built my 1366 platform,intel reccomended to not go above 105c,how ever CPU's are cooler now,I usually try not to exceed 70-75c under full load,depends on the situations,idle I think 30-40 is the norm,and any where from 65-80c is the norm for 100% load after long use,and even cooler with a true liquid cooling rig,meaning an actuall waterblock and loops,not the simplified coolit,corsair snap ons.Most processors will shut them selves off at around 100-105c now I believe as a built in safety feature,so is quite difficult to ruin the CPU,at least that's the way the i7 920 was made.


Oops,they beat me to it.Yeah 100 is to much but the CPU should shut itself down at that range,like I said I try not to exceed 70ish range.With the built in safety allot of CPU's have now,you would have to be trying on purpose almost to destroy the CPU.

Edit:yes with the h100 you should have no problems at 4.5ghz depending on your CPU and ambient temps.

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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Mar 2013 at 5:25pm
The H100 or DS's Vortex 240 will handle stage 1 or 2 overclock.     The Vortex is noisier on high fan speed but can be lowered with resistor pac if needed.   The H100i allows the fans to be controlled with Corsair Link with different profiles.   But, they all keep the cpu cool and safe.

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  Quote Solidus1833 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Mar 2013 at 5:40pm
yea ive been looking at the h100i and the ds/h100.. noise is not an issue to me i only have sound in my 7.1 headset.. so that cancels out most noise. the build is gonna be a Hailstorm with a few tweaks to it including 2 fan mounts on the window case for cpu and gpu. and upgrading all fans in case to 140mm performance fans. hope that is enough to keep temps a little better than the 70 mark or right on it.



other note.... im leaning more towards the ds/h100 cus the h100i is having many reviews about the software for the fan controls being buggy.
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Mar 2013 at 5:55pm
I haven't heard that about Corsair Link but could be.    The H100i also has better fans a better rad and larger tubing but not sure in the end the real results.
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  Quote Solidus1833 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Mar 2013 at 5:59pm
yea i prolly should have linked the reviews i was talkin about.


i use hardocp.com alot for reviews. and i compare it to newegg.com


on that note... i do understand that people on newegg can be panzy in nature on their reviews. even if it is their own fault they will mark it low. thats why i read about 10 reviews from all egg categories.

does anyone on the forum have an h100i? or ds/h100? if so how do u like it for overclock temps?
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  Quote Solidus1833 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Mar 2013 at 6:01pm
796234 There is the build Config that im using
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Mar 2013 at 1:56am
You can't really tell from one side and hardcop is not always dead on, I have issues with some of their benches, from using older drivers to older setups.

Did hardcop tell you what their room temp was?
Did hardcop tell you if their test was done in the open or in a case?
Did hardcop tell you what case?

you need to look at 10 creditable sites and then some user reviews and then see what you got.

the temps to stay under 85c, but for cpu and constant use below 70c is best.

what temps you will have is dependent on your room temp, case, specs, cpu cooling, and OC.

in short what others are experiencing in temp has got nothing to do with what you will be experiencing.

To answer your question yes, the h100 will do fine, just keep in mind you are not getting real LC perfomrance.

The noctua d14 can match/out perform the h100.

your config needs to be fine tuned a bit, why turbo and no oc? why the titan? what res are you gonna be gaming at?

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  Quote Solidus1833 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Mar 2013 at 2:14am
I'm going to oc the CPU myself using the built in program of the saber tooth.

I'll be gaming at 2560x1440 ATM. Planning on running 3 of the double wide screens. I was going to run 2x gtx 680s 2gb. And realized the Titan is only about 100 more. For nearly the same ability. Going to sli down the road with a second Titan.


Can u explain a little more on how the noctua is as good/better than the h100?

Also I never really under stand how air cooling works. Is there liquid in the pipes? Or is it just simple air flowing around the vents that cools the plate?

Ty again dst4me u always teach me things i didn't know. Good post. What sites do you use as credible?
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Mar 2013 at 2:25am
Ok for a stereo setup we do recommend titan, its what its made for.

If you don't know what you are doing don't oc, also its only $45 to let DS oc it and it will be under warranty with the oc.

Noctua is better then any cooling you see here till you get to stage 4 cooling, why? simple, a liquid cooling system is only as good as its rad and water block on cpu, so till you get to stage 4 cooling you are not getting great rad or water block making the perfomrance of these coolers like the h100 inferior to a real LC system.

Noctua has a great cpu block and great cooling system with the heatpipes and fans, which is how air cooling works, heat goes to the block, then the pipes and then the "air radiator" and then the fans cool the air rad.

As you see above air has no liquid in it thus air cooled.

LC works with the heat going to water block and then instead of heat pipes you have the heat transfering to the liquid so now you have warm/hot liquid, this hot liquid gets taken to the radiator when it goes thru the fins inside slowly getting a chance to cool and at the same time the rad has fans on it blowing air thru it helping the heat exchange from liquid to rad to air.

some of the sites I use, keep in mind you not only have to check a bunch but you also have to understand how things work, cause you have to look at each test bench that they are using and make sure its setup right, so its not just read the reveiew:

guru3d
techpowerup
anandtech
driveheaven


those are just a few

on the opposite side stay away from sites like tomshardware.

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  Quote Solidus1833 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Mar 2013 at 2:45am
Lol tyty for ur advice. Now if I go with the noctua I should still exhaust out the top? Or have the fan in the rear of the tower exhaust. The corsair 800d. Also I'm puttin the 2 120 mm fan mounts on the side panel tp intake air.



I guess I just don't understand how fanning the radiator in the noctua cools the pipes enough to cool the plate that touches the CPU. I think I have a pretty good idea on how lc works I've worked on many coolant systems on military vehicles. I guess the air concept illudes me on exactly how that heat exchange is cycled back to the plate to cool it. However u have defiantly peaked my interest in it. It seems like air takes less steps to do what the all in one CPU liquid systems do. Which can be very efficient in mor ways than one. I would fork over the extra cash for the custom lc configs but I feel like I would just really screw it up somehow. As well as I would live in fear that it might leak lol. If I understood more about how they are pit together and maintained I might go for it.

And I really wish I could get google to erase toms hardware from its search lol. They are the worst.

I also have gone to guru, anadtech and techpowerup in my searches. I'll give them more of a looksee from now on.

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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Mar 2013 at 8:25am
The Noctua 's push/ pull fans will exhaust out the back.  No real option to exhaust out the top. 
 
The Noctua cools the cpu by having the heat pipes carry the heat from the cpu to the cooling fins where the fans blow through and dissiapte the heat carried from the pipes to the fins.   


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  Quote Solidus1833 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Mar 2013 at 11:01am
so here is a bit of fun information about CPU coolers such as the noctua.


http://www.techradar.com/us/news/computing-components/processors/how-do-cpu-coolers-work-721366



lol there is a small amount of liquid in the pipes. Now this answers my question on how cooling returns back to the cpu block.
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Mar 2013 at 11:04am
Yep, like a long,  skinny vapor chamber.  Big%20Smile   Totally passive with no pumps, etc needed.  Reliable. 
 
 
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  Quote Solidus1833 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Mar 2013 at 11:05am
very tru... im definatly thinking of going with the noctua now instead of the h100i. i wonder if the cpu side panel fan would still fit? on the hailstorm
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Mar 2013 at 11:11am
The bottom one for sure and probably the top one, but not certain.  Click on the image next to the Chassis Mods and it gives some idea.    The case is 9" wide so should fit. 
 
 
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  Quote Solidus1833 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Mar 2013 at 11:13am
lol darn.... i wonder if ds would let me put the two portholes side by side? ALEX chime in good sir!
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  Quote Solidus1833 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Mar 2013 at 11:16am
hrm.. on the picture for the case mods... it looks like the fans are on the outside of the case with grilles guarding the fans from foreign FINGERS!. if so then i think it might work with the noctua. also in the picure it looks like they have a air cooler installed with both of the portholes with fans...
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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Mar 2013 at 11:25am
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Mar 2013 at 11:26am
Not sure what ram you have your heart set on, but the Noctua might mean a lower profile ram, instead of the tall heat spreader rams some want for looks.  The lower profile work just fine,  but depends how much they can offset the front Noctua fan from the mobo if the taller ones are wanted. 
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  Quote Solidus1833 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Mar 2013 at 11:27am
SWEET!

would this mean we could have u put them almost where ever we wanted on the side panel?
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Mar 2013 at 12:59pm
Ram runs cool no matter what, heatspreaders are really not needed with ram, heat is almost never an issue with ram.

Yes there is small amount of liquid in the pipes, but there is no liquid involved that you can see or work with in air cooling.
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yea.. i never really understood all those elaborate heatsinks for the RAM. im going for the DS certified 8gb ram. the picture shows no heatsink but the description says it has them.. so i have no clu if they do lol. or if they are the large heatsinks or the normal sized.
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You are good with the DS certified.
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  Quote Solidus1833 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Mar 2013 at 1:29pm
i read that 8gb 4x4 runs better than 16gb 4x4x4x4 on the sabertooth mobos. kind of makes since because you are only using 2 lanes and not 4. Especially since i am only really doing gaming , ms office and internet shinnanigans. is there a way we can select the manufacture of the DS certified? Corsair, ADATA, and Mushkin are listed. Or does DS just pick the best rated for the mobo?
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  Quote ArkansasWoman777 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Mar 2013 at 1:32pm
Originally posted by Solidus1833

so here is a bit of fun information about CPU coolers such as the noctua.


http://www.techradar.com/us/news/computing-components/processors/how-do-cpu-coolers-work-721366



lol there is a small amount of liquid in the pipes. Now this answers my question on how cooling returns back to the cpu block.



That is pretty neat. Learn something new everyday.
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using less lanes is always better, so yes 4 x 4GB is better then 8 x 2GB.

You can call DS or email them and ask them whatever brand you like and whatever size sticks you like to use, some things may cost a little extra.
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  Quote Solidus1833 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Mar 2013 at 2:43pm
Originally posted by Alex

Yes we definitely can!



hey Alex i was wondering if you had any builds on the bench ATM that are using the feature of adding two portholes on the side panel for fans? And if so can we have a picture of it at a somewhat angled view? so we can see how the fans are mounted?   Such as, are they outside the case, inside the case, or fit in between the plexi?
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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Mar 2013 at 2:45pm
I don't there is anything that does. You'll have to ask our team directly so they can better help you with it. I'm sure we could mount the fans inside as long as there is enough clearance, or we could do it on the outside.
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You gonna want them outside IMHO.
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You gonna want them outside IMHO.



thats what im thinking. it might be unsightly for some people but its the performance im looking at. kind of like your rad on the back of your tower... lol man its weird lookin but its the best so iwould do it too if i was building ur spec.
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