CPU-Z reading cpu speed at 2ghz??Post Date: 2008-01-29 |
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MarkNY 
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Anyone know why my computer would be running at 2ghz? My computer shows 3.67ghz. Please see screenshot below. Specs in my signature..  |
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Posted: 29 Jan 2008 at 10:42pm |
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also, bios is reading my cpu temp at 80c....
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skyR
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Posted: 29 Jan 2008 at 11:22pm |
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Feature called speedstep. You can disable it in the BIOS if you want your CPU to be running at 3ghz 24/7.
You should remount your heatsink ASAP. |
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Tyler Lowe
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Posted: 30 Jan 2008 at 12:06am |
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I'll bet that is the temp activated clock reduction kicking in rather than speed step. And yes, before doing anything else, make sure your water block is actually mounted to the cpu.
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Duke
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Posted: 30 Jan 2008 at 2:07am |
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SkyR is correct, its the Intel Speedstep technology feature. It can be disable in the BIOS:
Intel.com
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MarkNY
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Posted: 30 Jan 2008 at 8:31am |
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hrm.. remounting the heatsick isn't something i'm exactly comfortable doing on my own... I'm assuming that I have to send my computer back to DS a week after I received it, which is more than a bit frusterating.
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Tyler Lowe
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Posted: 30 Jan 2008 at 11:10am |
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Interesting. I would have thought it was this:
Either way, I'd find it extremely hard to believe DSO just said "screw it we're shipping a system without a CPU heat sink attached". I've heard of water blocks becoming unattached just transporting a system to a LAN party, and this in the care of the system's owner, not a small group of random strangers working for a shipping company bringing the system cross country. My money would be on vibrations encountered during shipping, or just outright rough handling. Edited by Tyler Lowe - 30 Jan 2008 at 11:19am |
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MarkNY
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Posted: 30 Jan 2008 at 12:19pm |
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Maybe...although the box was really in good shape and it was only a 2 day flight. Also, for what it is worth, i opened the case and touched the water tubes coming in and out of the processor and they were border-line hot (if that means anything)... What happens if I keep using the computer at this temperature? I played Crysis for 2 hours the other day before I noticed the temp problem and it ran flawlessly. |
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Tyler Lowe
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Posted: 30 Jan 2008 at 1:11pm |
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Honestly, there's only so far you can get on the forums. I mean, people try to help, but if I were in your shoes, I would be calling DSO at this point and asking about these system temps. I wouldn't be comfortable running a machine that hot without at least a conversation over the phone with a tech.
However, if I were going to try and investigate further, the next thing I would look at would be the radiators. I would check and make sure they had good air flow (fans operating normally). |
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MarkNY
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Posted: 30 Jan 2008 at 1:36pm |
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Yeah. I will be calling tomorrow when i'm back in front of my computer. Its just difficult b/c i have a really busy work schedule this time of the year :/.
I checked the fans, they are running, but don't seem to be at 100 percent. Maybe something to look into.
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Posted: 30 Jan 2008 at 1:47pm |
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For a water cooled system to run 80C something seems very very wrong. Please download and install coretemp to monitor your temps:
coretemp *64bit will not run this program Even though shipping abuse is always a possibility, I really doubt the waterblock is loose. That thing is screwed down. If anything, check to make sure your pump is working properly. Edited by Duke - 30 Jan 2008 at 2:20pm |
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MarkNY
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Posted: 30 Jan 2008 at 2:28pm |
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Duke,
I ran that program yesterday and it was reporting temps in the 70s for all cores while idle. How do I check the pump? I can see water flowing through, but i'm not sure if it is at the correct speed. Edited by MarkNY - 30 Jan 2008 at 2:28pm |
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Duke
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Posted: 30 Jan 2008 at 2:40pm |
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Put your hand on the pump and make sure you can feel it vibrate/working. Also check the reservoir and see if you can notice the water level moving. If you're getting flow, then this just makes me scratch my head.
The CPU waterblock should be easily accessible when the sidepanel is off. It should be mounted down tight, see if its wiggling or seems loose. You can hand tighten it down via the four thumbscrews. I'm sure you can figure it out by looking at it. You do not need to un-do any tubing. Can you also please provide a screenshot of coretemp too. * Press the PRTSCN button on your keyboard to take a snapshop of your screen. Open Microsoft Paint, hit CTRL-V to paste and save. |
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MarkNY
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Posted: 30 Jan 2008 at 2:47pm |
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Hi Duke, I will check everything when I get home tonight and post screen shots at that time. Thanks!
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Posted: 31 Jan 2008 at 8:35am |
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Ok, I checked and water seems to be flowing well to and from the waterblock, which is also well secured. The problem, I think may be due to the fan above, or within the top radiator. It doesn't seem to be moving and the lights are off (there are lights on the back radiator and I can easily feel air moving from it). Maybe the power cable came undone? Also attached is core temp screen shot. It was taken 30 minutes after startup with the computer idling.
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Duke
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Posted: 31 Jan 2008 at 12:34pm |
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Thanks for the screen shot Mark.
Please confirm if the fan is working or not and let us know ASAP. We'll gladly send you a replacement. Edited by Duke - 31 Jan 2008 at 12:35pm |
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MarkNY
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Posted: 31 Jan 2008 at 8:15pm |
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Ok- well the fan on the back radiator is working. So no problems there.
As an interesting side note to the 2000 mhz issue, if I run games it will raise the speed to 3667 mhz, however BIOS shows both speedstep and CPU thermal control to be disabled, so i'm not sure what is going on there...
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Tyler Lowe
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Posted: 01 Feb 2008 at 12:12am |
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Is C1E Enhanced Halt state enabled?
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Duke
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Posted: 01 Feb 2008 at 1:21am |
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Yeah its the C1E Enhanced Halt State option in the BIOS.
Mark if all your cooling components are working properly, then I am stumped to why you're getting such a high temp reading. I will talk to my water cooling guru and report back. |
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MarkNY
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Posted: 01 Feb 2008 at 9:03am |
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Hi Duke,
I spoke with Alex for about 20 minutes on the phone yesterday. He said as long as the system was stable, the temp of my CPU (67c-90c) should be ok. He advised that I could send the system back in order to install another radiator or lower the OC to 3.33, however, it really wouldn't be necessary unless I noticed problems.
He seemed to think that the two ultra cards were dumping too much heat into the cooling system.
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pgs8113
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Posted: 01 Feb 2008 at 9:21am |
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I thought I had heating problems (62 degrees under full load, but I don't have liquid cooling, just air), but 90 degrees is pretty high for liquid cooled.
You should consider sending it back.. or talk to someone else with the same system, I thought ED1371 (something like that) had a similar set up, see what kind of temps he is getting.
see my post
DOG LOVER said this (similar specs, thermoelectric cooling)
"I have a smoking DSO rig, and it pukes out the heat like a space heater. My core temps at idle range anywhere from about 37 - 45 C (Every one is always different). When I get in and do some heavy gaming for several hours at a time, they have NEVER gone over 51 - 52 c... EVER.
If you are getting up to 65 C, I am thinking you may have some issue. One easy one: Have you cleaned your grates and fan blades and air intakes regularly? I have seen people that never open up and clean their machine have so much built up lint that it looks like a plugged exhaust vent from a clothes dryer!" Edited by pgs8113 - 01 Feb 2008 at 9:25am |
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MarkNY
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Posted: 01 Feb 2008 at 10:28am |
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Ed's system is very similar to mine- not sure what his temps are though or if he has dual loop. Doglover doesn't have his cooling looped through his video cards, which i'm beginning to think would have been a good idea! haha :)
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Tyler Lowe
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Posted: 01 Feb 2008 at 10:35am |
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I would save my OC settings, and lower the CPU to 3.33 and see if I noticed any performance difference in games personally. At 333 and X10 multi, you should be able to drop your Vcore considerably from where you're at right now. I would suggest this not only for the sake of your CPU, but also for your pair of Ultras.
Another thought... can the fans on those radiators be swapped out to something that may generate a bit more noise, but move a lot more air? Something like Scythe Ultra Kaze 133CFM? I wonder if you lowered the OC short term and tried out higher volume fans afterward to see if you could return to the faster setting at lower volts. |
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MarkNY
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Posted: 01 Feb 2008 at 5:08pm |
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out of curiousity- in my case, would it be bad to disable C1E Enhanced Halt State? |
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Posted: 01 Feb 2008 at 7:35pm |
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Mark, I also checked more into your order, you do have a top FAN with Radiator. Please check if the TOP fan is spinning.
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Duke
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Posted: 02 Feb 2008 at 2:38am |
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Mark, the C1E state is merely for power reducing/saving modes when the system is idle. Its not necessary bad if you disable it, you'll just have to answer to Al Gore!
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MarkNY
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Posted: 02 Feb 2008 at 11:32am |
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it doesn't look like the top fan is spinning... I will call on Monday to discuss (or feel free to call me)...
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MarkNY
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Posted: 02 Feb 2008 at 12:02pm |
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checked BIOS system monitor:
right now it reads:
CPU Fan Speed: 1205 RPM
nforce Fan speed: 4269 RPM
Chassis Fan Speed: 1240 RPM
Aux Fan SPeed: 0 RPM
Chassis Fan 2: 0 RPM
Let me know if thats normal... Edited by MarkNY - 02 Feb 2008 at 12:08pm |
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Posted: 02 Feb 2008 at 2:34pm |
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ugh.. not that its a big deal, but now the lights at the base of the machine won't turn on.. they randomly shut off while I was out jogging. |
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As an update- the fan over the radiator is running, although I had to take the casing off the computer in order to see it move... Even so, I played Crysis for 2 hours last night, spiked the CPU temp up to 96C- however, I didn't notice any performance issues. As a side note, after playing for that long I touched the upper radiator and it is to the point where if you hold your fingure on it for more than 2 seconds it starts to burn.
Not sure if I can get the machine any hotter...Right now I am ok with letting it run hot provided it doesn't hurt performance. BTW- both ultras are running around 87C during gaming... I'm beginning to think air cooling would have been more effective!
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This shows your Vcore at over 1.5 volts. It doen't surprise me that your chip is running hot. That seems way out of line for a CPU that isn't overclocked. This chip is rated for a 1333 MHz FSB, right?
As an experiment, I'd go into the BIOS and set Vcore to 1.4 V and see if the machine will boot. If it won't I'd start turning down the FSB speed until it does. That's not a solution, but I'd want to know what the core temps are at that lower voltage.
Guys, am I missing something here? Are the Quad Extremes supposed to run with parameters like these?
Your chip shouldn't be this hot, but Vcore shouldn't be that high either. Edited by Bill the Cat - 08 Feb 2008 at 1:07pm |
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Posted: 14 Feb 2008 at 11:55am |
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I bought and installed a a couple extra fans around the top radiator and in the case. While it is a bit louder now, I dropped the idle temp to around 55c and the load never seems to go about 75c. yay.
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