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    Posted: 13 Sep 2008 at 7:39pm
 Hi everyone I just read the  first pissed off review of a ds system. I have a $8500 system coming next week and I also ordered the creative sound card in mine. My question is am I going to have the same problems? I am in a wheelchair and really cant mess with that type of stuff. I do have a dual boot system with xp and vista but I would like my soundcard to work perfectly. I guess I am saying hey DS if you cant get the creative to work at 100 percent please install one that will. Thanks Guy Preston
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  Quote Rolet Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Sep 2008 at 7:58pm
Which one did you order? I have the fatality edition and haven't had any issues with it.
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  Quote Axel Daemon Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Sep 2008 at 7:59pm
Well just to put in my own two cents.  In a nutshell Creative sound card work on XP, not as much on Vista.  (The errors though he's having with Vista is strange though, the drivers are SUPPOSE to work on Vista aren't they?  It's just that gameplay experience with the sound card on Vista as expected isn't going to work out well.)

As someone who was under the rock about the Vista =/= Creative.
Daniel_K incident  When I found out about this... in general it just doesn't seem worth sticking with Creative when it comes to having a Vista OS.  If it was still XP things would probably still be alright lol.

Either way you're not getting what you're paying for if your'e gonna be running the Creative sound card with a Vista OS.

Seeing from your $8500+ config (thank you search funciton lol)  If you're wishing to pay something of that same quality.  Go with the Asus Xonar D2X (Before Widdlecat storms in here and says the same thing lol)

After checking reviws on the Xonar D2X.  It's pretty much the best soundcard that you ca use to plunge in with when using a Vista OS.
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  Quote paraguy1 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Sep 2008 at 8:00pm

I dont get it. If there are issues with the creative sound card why does DS even carry it. Or at least mention it to someone ordering it in there system. I am starting to worry that I will have the same problems. I have a klipsch 5.1 system and listen to alot of music through my computer. I have emailed DS and asked them to either make sure the creative works 100 percent or change it to the asus card I just hope I am not too late because its in stage 5. Am I worrying for nothing? 



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  Quote Axel Daemon Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Sep 2008 at 8:08pm
Listen to alot of music you say?  Aahahah then it's settled, Ask Widdlecat, she already states that Asus Xonar D2X has very high quality components in it that make alot of music ensthusiats pick the D2X for the sound clairty.

For me I'm only a gamer.  I don't listen to too much music but yeah.  I didn't wanna go with the Creative system (personally I wanted to go with the Auzentech Prelude, but it uses Creative's drivers, so I'd probably be risking my gaming experience here.)  Since Creative still needs to work out the kinks when trying to active EAX.  With the D2X it has a system where it emulates the EAX effects (and every single review said they can't differenciate to the real thing to that one heh)

Edit: Strictly speaking though.  It's not DSO's fault really.  Creative's job is to make sure their driver's WORK for Vista, but as you can see that still ain't the case.  Oh and I forgot you save $9 it seems if you go with the Xonar D2X lol.


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  Quote paraguy1 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Sep 2008 at 8:58pm
I dont agree If DS is selling a part that doesnt work with the system it is DSO's fault regardless if it is a driver or not. If they test it before they ship it to you and the sound card does'nt work right it should not be sent to you until the problem is either solved or a different sound card is installed. When I buy a car from say GM and a part is defective (regardless who built the part) I blame GM who built the car.
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  Quote paraguy1 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Sep 2008 at 9:01pm
So please if a digital storm person reads this please check the system for Guy Preston (stage 5)and if the creative sound card doesnt work for any reason at all please dont send it to me like that. Either contact me or change it to the asus card but still contact me. Thanks, Guy preston  
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Sep 2008 at 9:04pm
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1. DS does not send out any systems without testing and if testing fails they don't send it out.

2. GM uses GM parts and should be blamed, DS is using the same part as you would if you were building your own system.
So when your system breaks you blame yourself? or creative for giving you a crappy card?

now having said that, still DS offers their warranty for 3 year on that part even tho the manufacturer gives you only one year.

I don't see what else they can do, if one stick out of 20 is bad, it does not justify moving to another brand.

as alex says the best way to see where your order is at is to call them

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  Quote paraguy1 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Sep 2008 at 9:13pm
I work for GM and most parts are contracted out now so they are not GM parts. We get alot of stuff from other companies.  
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Sep 2008 at 9:26pm
where does genuine gm parts come in then?




OK but honestly, its not the same, me and you can't go building a gm using gm parts we will be sued

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  Quote Tyler Lowe Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Sep 2008 at 9:42pm
They carry the component because people ask for it by name, and the vast majority do not experience a problem. Those with problems are always most vocal. This is the unfortunate fact. The 99 people that have a flawless experience will not come back and post on it. Most DSO customers never post on these forums at all. That 1 person that has a bad experience will go out of their way to tell as many people as will listen about it. That's understandable and it's human nature.
 
Paraguy, email Alex ASAP and contact DSO first thing monday morning if you want to hold that order and have a substitution made. I can tell you first hand that things move extremely quickly once you get past stage 3. I missed the opportunity to make a last minute change in my own order due to how rapidly things progress through the final stages. If you can't get in touch with Alex, post in the storm drain as well, Alex reviews that forum section throughout the weekend.
 


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  Quote paraguy1 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Sep 2008 at 1:25am
I only would want it changed if it did not work right in my system. All I wanted is to make sure they test the sound card thoughly since there is a known issue with that brand. The way that guy sounded was that a creative card isnt compatible with vista. I really dont know anything about it but I just wanted to double check on it and not take one dissatisfied coustomers word. From what I see DS is very good with that kind of stuff  
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  Quote Tyler Lowe Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Sep 2008 at 1:26am
Yes, they really do stay on top of things. Which motherboard did you select? If you went with an nVidia motherboard, and you want to be certain of avoiding issue, in my opinion, I would try and get a different card installed Of the people that did have a problem, the majority experienced it with an Nvidia chipset and Vista. Again, not to say all have had issue, but the combination of Vista, Creative's drivers, and Nvidia's motherboards seems to make it more likely. If this is the case, I would opt for the Asus Xonar soundcard over the Creative product if there is still time to make the change.

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  Quote widdlecat Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Sep 2008 at 3:07am
Seriously, if you're spending that much on a rig, go with the best audio too! Get an ASUS Xonar D2X. It uses burr-brown dacs and analog devices op amps. True audiophile parts. If you use high quality headphones, you will find that this will sound much better than any Creative product. Creative is popular by name, so they offer them. That's similar to offering big name brands in other areas and not just the best. Headphones for example: Sony vs Grado. Most people would buy sony, because of the name, but Grado headphones are vastly superior. In a business where you are trying to meet the demands of all, you have to be flexible in your offerings.
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  Quote Axel Daemon Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Sep 2008 at 12:14am
I knew she'd storm in here eventually saying so =P.

As for me I'd go with Auzentech Prelude, sacrificing some of that sound clarity, to full boost my gaming experience ahah.  Though at the moment I'll stick with Xonar D2X for now, since it seems like the Creative Drivers, still need a couple more tinkering with.

-actually goes and makes a topic regarding that-


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  Quote paraguy1 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Sep 2008 at 12:29am
I dont really listen to headphones on my computer I have the old Klipsch 5.1 Promedia system which was one of the first great sounding computer speakers back in 2002. Klipsch does not make that model anymore probably because of technical problems they had. (I went through 3 sets) all replaced for free by Klipsch. They even sent me spare speakers and control pods just in case but they have been problem free since. But these speakers sound great and the 500 watt sub really thumps. What is the best sounding speakers on the market now since Klipsch quit making their 5.1s
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  Quote MarkNY Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Sep 2008 at 9:20am
I used to have two sets of 5.1 Klipsch speakers.  I loved them until both sets shorted out and no longer functioned... I didn't bother trying to get them replaced, but I probably should have. 
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  Quote FLighT Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 Sep 2008 at 3:13pm
If you have no interest at all in the sound other than that it works why not just take what's available off Windows OS and the MOBO?
 
Is there a good reason to use a dedicated sound card from a performance of the overall system standpoint?


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