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  Quote areobee Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Topic: Did I make a mistake?
    Posted: 01 Oct 2021 at 11:15am
So I just ordered a rig.. but I chose the Core i9 11900K... did I make a mistake..?? I have read a few articles online saying the Ryzen 9 5950X beats it by a lot. Will I notice any performance issues...?
Also ordered an RTX 3090 as well.

mostly for gaming and some basic productivity.

Just curious ... thoughts???

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  Quote JamesAstro Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Oct 2021 at 12:00pm
The Core i9 11900K just barely beats the Ryzen in gaming performance. If you're only gaming, then it's a good CPU choice. However, if you are using non-gaming apps that can take advantage of multiple core, the Ryzen is usually better.
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  Quote MrCheetah Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Oct 2021 at 12:03pm
No. Both are a bit excessive for gaming. Your simple description doesn't indicate you'll benefit significantly by double the cores of that Ryzen.
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  Quote areobee Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Oct 2021 at 3:32pm
Thank you ! Everyone.. it’s for my 12yo son this Christmas. He plays Destiny and the zoo and theme park simulation games. I just want to make sure it will be good for a few years.

BTW this is his first nice computer. He does amazing in school and never asks for anything.

I Ordered him…

Chassis Model: Digital Storm Lumos
Processor: Intel Core i9-11900K (5.3 GHz Turbo) (16-Thread) (8-Core) 3.5 GHz (Rocket Lake)
Motherboard: ASUS ROG Maximus XIII Hero (Wi-Fi) (Intel Z590 Chipset) (Up to 3x PCI-E Devices) (No SLI)
System Memory: 32GB DDR4 3600MHz HyperX Fury RGB
Power Supply: 850W Digital Storm Performance Series (Modular) (80 Plus Gold)
Storage Set 1: 1x SSD M.2 (1TB Samsung 970 EVO PLUS) (NVM Express)
Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce RTX 3090 24GB (VR Ready)
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex Liquid CPU Cooler
Chassis Fans: Cooler Master MasterFan Halo (RGB Fans) (Remote Control Only)
Internal Lighting: Remote Controlled Advanced LED Lighting System (Multiple RGB Color Modes)
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  Quote MrCheetah Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Oct 2021 at 7:39pm
That's a very nice gift, and it should last 5 - 10 years.

Nit-picky suggestion: You could change to a Samsung 980 Pro as storage to squeeze the most of the performance.

Truly notable suggestion: Upgrade to a 1000 watt PSU. That setup has the potential to reach beyond 800 watts under full load (i.e., every component having high demand). Does that mean an 850 watt power supply is absolutely insufficient or will be problematic? No. Although, ~10 to 20% is normally a good headroom amount.

FYI: OuterVision's Power Supply Calculator does a good job at estimating maximum power consumption.
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  Quote hoserator Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Oct 2021 at 10:25pm
Congrats to your son for his gift and being a responsible student and son.

That will be a very nice system and will last through High School and beyond.
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  Quote Cretae Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 02 Oct 2021 at 3:28am
Two of the fastest CPUs available, you would be hard-pressed to "notice" performance issues. Best gaming CPU right now is the 11900K.

IMHO the RTX 3080 will be more than enough for all his gaming for a very long time. The games he plays will never test the overkill of a 3090. I'm the budget guy, and I want to make you aware that card is selling for almost double it's MSRP. All the cards are sky-high, if you hadn't heard, so it makes no sense to reach higher than what you need. A 3080 will perform extremely well on a high-end 4K monitor for several years at least, and beyond that, there will be newer cards at more reasonable prices to upgrade. If you have, or select a 1440p monitor resolution, it's overkill, but it will be good for the life of the computer or the part. Save yourself the $1300. If you downgrade that part, you won't need the larger power supply.

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  Quote fwfdfireman Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 02 Oct 2021 at 4:29am
I second Cretae on the RTX 3080. Currently running one and I have yet to play a AAA game that stresses the card. Love this 3080. Your money, your choice............... but why spend it if you don't have to?
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  Quote tfg1955 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Oct 2021 at 3:17am
IMHO thats quite an expense on a 12 year old. Your son, your money.
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  Quote Cretae Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Oct 2021 at 7:12am
OP has a good reason for this. As hoserator said, it will last through high school, and I agree. I have put in my two cents about GPU overkill, and hope he heeds it. Otherwise, it's a strong investment to last a very long time. The young man will be delighted and reportedly deserves this. I'm happy for them.
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  Quote areobee Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Oct 2021 at 9:42am
Thank you everyone for the comments and advice. I love crowd Knowledge. I always over buy on technology. I have worked in IT for 30 years, but my background is mostly on servers and switches. I work on a laptop and I dont game so digging into hardware again was interesting. Wow have things changed. One thing I have learned over the years is dont buy for today. I can remember my older son buying the best video card of time years ago and 12 months later it was old news. I know I over paid for the rtx3090 by a lot, but I am hoping I won't have to worry about it for several years. My 12yo son does not ask for anything. He is happy playing on a $200 NUC with integrated graphics. I know NVIDIA is already trying to get the RTX 40 series cards ready by end of next year. As he gets older, the games he is playing are getting more and more advanced so I want to make sure he can jack up all the settings and have no issues. Anyway, thanks again for all the input. I will have to keep an eye on the power supply.

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  Quote JamesAstro Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Oct 2021 at 12:08pm
Areobee, I have the same approach as you: I like to get top-of-the-line components, and then keep them for many years without upgrading. It costs more initially, but it leads to fewer upgrades later on. Plus, it means you get a screaming fast machine!

That being said, if you only plan on gaming with this machine, then think about getting the RTX 3080 Ti rather than the 3090. They are so close in performance that you would never notice the difference while gaming. Here's a good article that compares the two cards:

https://www.pcworld.com/article/394650/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-review.html

The main reasons to upgrade from the 3080 Ti to the 3090 would be if you are using pro apps that can take advantage of the extra memory, bitcoin mining, or you prefer the lower sound level generated by the cooling fans. The 3090 is a much larger card with a massive cooler, and larger fans. I personally got the 3090, because I wanted a powerful super-quiet machine.

Either way, you can't go wrong with either of those cards. You're son is going to freakin love his new machine!

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Thank you everyone for the comments and advice. I love crowd Knowledge. I always over buy on technology. I have worked in IT for 30 years, but my background is mostly on servers and switches. I work on a laptop and I dont game so digging into hardware again was interesting. Wow have things changed. One thing I have learned over the years is dont buy for today. I can remember my older son buying the best video card of time years ago and 12 months later it was old news. I know I over paid for the rtx3090 by a lot, but I am hoping I won't have to worry about it for several years. My 12yo son does not ask for anything. He is happy playing on a $200 NUC with integrated graphics. I know NVIDIA is already trying to get the RTX 40 series cards ready by end of next year. As he gets older, the games he is playing are getting more and more advanced so I want to make sure he can jack up all the settings and have no issues. Anyway, thanks again for all the input. I will have to keep an eye on the power supply.

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Reading about other people's super systems while I wait for mine gives me something to do.
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  Quote areobee Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: Yesterday at 11:16am
Thanks to everyone for your input. In Stage 5! I was worried the supply chain issues were going to hit me. I took the advice and ordered a 980 Pro NVME. Should I make it a storage drive or the OS drive?
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I would make it the boot drive. Your OS will boot faster, apps will launch faster, and the windows swap file will have super-fast access.
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  Quote areobee Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: Yesterday at 11:31am
Perfect! I did not get the drive in time to get it into the order... So I bought one off amazon. I will just image the existing 970 pro over to the 980 pro and use the 970 evo pro for storage.

Even though its not for me, getting a little excited to see this thing.
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  Quote Onkel_Ken Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: Yesterday at 7:06pm
areobee,

I bet you might play the first game at ultra crazy settings yourself or at least will be there to watch your son discover what true pristine high definition graphics can allow after the grand unboxing!

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  Quote areobee Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: Today at 11:29am
I have been in stage 5 since 10/18.. now 10/27... Is this a normal time span for stage 5?
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  Quote Onkel_Ken Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: Today at 1:05pm
I am typing on a 12 year old Digital Storm that runs great having only changed out a fan over all this time. I know that Digital Storm is serious about their Stage 5 Stress Testing & Benchmarking. I believe this is the most important stage of the process. Digital Storm builds systems that last and I can attest to that.

If you are concerned there is a specific reason other than extensive testing you could give them a call and check status. I know I would want them to take as long as it takes to stress test my new system that I have on order.

I know you will be happy with your new system when it does arrive. DS builds incredible systems!



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  Quote areobee Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: Today at 6:04pm
I am all for extensive testing and I have no problem waiting. I was just curious how long the typical testing phase lasts. Anyway, just moved to stage 6 today!

I have been really impressed with the whole experience from configuring, ordering and interacting with the community. I will definitely order future machines from DS. Now I am looking at the laptops for work!
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I've always said that of all the stages DS goes through that I would want the testing stage to be the longest. All of the problems, if any at all, that are found by DS means that I won't find them. They are better equipped to find and deal with them than I will ever be...   
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