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  Quote pwcorgi Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Topic: DSC PC Config help wanted.
    Posted: 03 Feb 2011 at 2:59pm
I've been looking through the Special Ops Section, and I'm interested in the Better or maybe Best option.
Are there any adjustments that I should make?
- I will be using HDMI to my 32 inch HDTV.
- I'm waiting for MS Flight, but I will also be using FSX.
- I want it pretty much all purpose
- I don't want to fool with SLI'ing
- My budget is preferably $1500.00 or less

I'm not too hard pressed on the case, although I do like the HAF cases.

Thank You

 


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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 03 Feb 2011 at 11:49pm
pwcorgi we don't have your build number to know if you need to make adjustments, if you have a thread open already then please ask in that thread so that we can see your build at the same time.
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  Quote pwcorgi Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 1:05am
Ticket Number 484027

My biggest want, is a Digital Storm PC.




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Here you go Ticket# 484031 --- $1576 (To see this build click here)

Copy of Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - HAF 922
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
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Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.40GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 (Intel P67 Chipset) (Features USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s)
System Memory: 4GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
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  Quote pwcorgi Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 2:09am
Thank you so far
Should I stay with the i7, or will dropping down to the i5 be okay?
Is the GTX 560 Ti really good?

I seriously doubt I'll be doing anything hard core.




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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 3:53am
The 560 is great, and you can oc it and get pretty much 570 performance.

stay with the 2600K but if you have to then go with 2500k.
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  Quote pwcorgi Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 2:54pm
Thank you! I'll have more questions later, and hopefully my 101th post will be when I show it off. That day will be awesome! :D



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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 11:46pm
My pleasure and good luck can't wait to see you beast
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  Quote pwcorgi Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 29 Jul 2011 at 4:43pm
I raised my budget some, but no more than $2100.00
Here's my number - 581077
I'm still planning to order in late 2011 or early 2012, therefore I'm considering the P79. Please give input and why. Thank you.



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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 29 Jul 2011 at 4:53pm
lol is that your ip in the link? the link is broken.

you mean x79 and not p79.

now for your config 581077:

psu needs to be 1000w corsair hx so that in the future you can go sli 570/580.

raise oc to stage 2 for better performance.

rest looks great.

I'm not expecting the 4 core 3820 cpu for the x79 to do too much better then the 2600k, I think the big difference will be see in the 6 core cpus of x79, those will cost more money then the current 2600k and I'm not sure how big of a difference they will make in most games, but that is just my assumption, till we see them go head to head, we won't know for sure.

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  Quote pwcorgi Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Aug 2011 at 2:27pm
Okay good, I'll just put the x79 in the shadow for consideration,

Meanwhile, Is the only difference between the P8P67 and Deluxe? SLi?
I'm not a fan of SLI, but I'm sure the Deluxe has to be better for other aspects as well.
I had Sli/PSU issues with the 6600gt, that's my main reason.
Secondly, what to do with the two or more gpu's when you upgrade.



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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Aug 2011 at 10:35pm
main difference is sli, form a gaming point of view you have nothing to gain but to do sli you need a sli mobo and the correct psu.
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  Quote pwcorgi Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 23 Oct 2011 at 3:29am
Well there goes my 100th post that I was planning for my review post. LOL

DST4ME and others, I'm getting fairly close to ordering and I have a few questions.
1. Will I have to go SLI with my 32inch Sony Bravia? I don't want SLi but will plan for it, or if it's needed for the future? (1920x1080)
2. For PSU, I would like to go fully modular, unless there is a good reason not to. That way, upgrading will be easier on me. (AX750)

I got the tv, so that it would be multi-purpose, but I may get a smaller monitor later.Smile


 




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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 23 Oct 2011 at 4:32am
Your 32" has 1920x1080 res correct? if yes then go with one 570 and if you need the second then drop it in.

psu is something you should chose at the beginning and it should support future updates, otherwise you pay twice for psu.
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  Quote pwcorgi Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 23 Oct 2011 at 5:05am
The reason I'm interested in the AX series, is that I can just unplug all the connectors from the psu, and put a new psu in when/if needed.
It should be less of a headache, if I go this route.
I see what you're saying, but I'm looking at it from a different perspective.

Should I get the 570 2.5gb version? I'll be using HDMI.


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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 23 Oct 2011 at 6:14pm
Well no matter how you look at it, your psu is gonna have a final cost of around $400 instead of $200.

the hx series are not fully modular, the 24pin and the atx are connected to the psu, honestly speaking a psu change is not that hard modular or not, but like I said its best you get what you need now instead of paying twice for it, but its upto you at the end.

hdmi and dvi are the same, just get a converter, or just double check with DS and see which card they are giving you, it may have an hdmi output already.

tv's don't make the best monitors. also its not the size of the tv/monitor, its the res, you can get a 24" with 1900 x 1200 res.

the 2.5GB version of 570 is for higher res.

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When I was shopping for the tv, all that I was thinking was "One tv for several items."  I'm not rich at all, so when I do spend money on big stuff, I try to make sure I get a good bang for the buck. So the tv made the best sense.

As I mentioned earlier, I don't want to SLi, if I can help it. That's a lot of wasted money in my books. Why, because when you decide to get new gpu's, you have two or more older gpu's to worry about trying to figure out what to do with them.

It still kinda amazes me how some people here buy $2500-$5000 computers, when pc prices depreciate fairly quickly, not that I'm not saying that people should go cheapo computers instead. I'm just saying it's better to be money conscious.


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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 23 Oct 2011 at 9:25pm
It depends on teh needs of the person, if you have 1900 x 1200 res and want smooth gaming its gonna cost your around $3000 to achieve that.

I usually go thru gpus like candy, when the gpus get old and needs replacing, you don't have to worry about what to do with them, if nobody in the family can use them, donate them, there are plenty of charities that can use stuff like that and put a pc together for somebody who really needs it.

So while I understand where you are coming from, I can't say sli is a waste of money, cause its not, as long as you need that much power.

the prices of pc parts may get cheap pretty quick but when you pay $3000 and use that pc for 5 or 6 years, thats well worth the price, not to mention that 3 years into it, to make it feel brand new in gaming, all you have to do is upgrade the sli and viola, you would think you went out and bought another $3000 brand new pc (in gaming).

but speaking of being money conscious, how does it make sense to pay for psu twice? which is what I was trying to be earlier.

but if you are the type of gamer that does not need to have max settings in games and you don't mind turning down settings or you don't mind some lag depending on the game then go with single gpu system.

earlier you said you wanted a single gpu system with option to go sli, so that is what I showed you, now if that has changed and all you want is a system that can just do single gpu, then take a look at ode 1, its a great price and has a 570 and is a single gpu system, all you have to do is add a ssd to it yourself when you are ready.

My pc cost around 10 grand, and I think I'm a very money conscious person myself.
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I believe I'm going to stick with the HAF X case. (more room and flexibility) I'm not a big time gamer, so single gpu should be fine with me.
I am concerned about MS Flight, (whenever it does come out.) if it will NEED SLi.
So if I don't need SLi, I can keep my 750w, but if I do end up needing it, I can pop a another psu in it in a few years. That's my reasoning. Plus if something does go wrong with the psu, It'll be easier for me to change it out.

I hope to use this computer for close to ten years.
My mom has my old Dell 8200.(I do need to replace it soon)


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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 1:37am
I know fsx does not utilize sli, I'm not sure about the new ms flight.

the 1050hx is $100 more then the 750w, so you can pay $100 now and be covered for upgrades and not have to worry about uninstall of psu and install of new psu, or you can pay for the 750w now and then later pay $200+ for the a new psu and go thru uninstall/install, I'm also not sure how you figure the 1000w psu is gonna be modular also, cause right now I can't really name you a good 1000w psu that is fully modular.

But at the end its your pc, I'm just providing info, go with what makes you happy

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At least the uninstall/installing will be easier on me, than tracing connections the other way. I hope I never have to do SLi, but at least I feel comfortable going this route. I believe the AX series has the same warranty.

Also if I were to get the 1050w, I might have to skimp on the 2600k, and get the 2500k to stay with in my budget. (less than $2000)


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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 5:16pm
going with 2500k is a mistake. I would just expand the budget by $100 and get the 1050hx and the 2600k and pay once for the psu, but its your budget, like I said get what you feel is right for you.
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  Quote pwcorgi Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 10:07pm
I would feel horrible to have SLi just for one possible game (MS FLIGHT)
Unless there is a reason for me to do SLi in the future. I'm going to go single
I'm not a heavy gamer, so I don't have to have max settings.
I plan to get at least the AsusP67 Pro


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You getting the pro for sli?

why don't you contact ms flight devs and simply ask them what the deal is with multi gpu support. that way you know for sure.

I do agree if the games you gonna play don't utilize sli then that would be total waste of money.

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  Quote pwcorgi Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Oct 2011 at 1:35am
The P67 Pro is $1 below the P67, but I also like the P67 Deluxe.
So even if I don't utilize SLi, it will still be a SLi mobo, just in case.



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Ya but that is the M-pro which stands for micro, so you endup with less pci lanes for other pci cards you may want to add/use down the road, just something to thing about.
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  Quote pwcorgi Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Oct 2011 at 3:53pm
Thanks, I'll get a different mobo then. Which mobo should I get, whether I do SLi or not.


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well no sli the p67 has lot of pci lanes, with sli deluxe will give the most pci lanes I believe, z68 pro also will have a few pci lanes open in sli.

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  Quote pwcorgi Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Oct 2011 at 4:53pm
Should I consider the X79 series mobo or upcoming SB cpu coming out soon?


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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Oct 2011 at 4:59pm
You can if you like but for your res you have nothing to really gain, and the platform being the highend should cost more, but its upto you.

the mobo and cpu go together, you can't stick a x79 cpu on the p67.

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Although semi-tempted to get the new tech, it's pretty good to know that they probably won't help me in my situation. 
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I plan to order in Dec. I hope that there will be a good sale for Christmas.

Alex I sent you an email Saturday Nov 5th, but I haven't heard back from you.


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How about this? I've decided that I'm not going to bother with SLi
Should I concentrate on getting an SSD?
I don't need the i7 2600 - I love the HAF X

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Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X
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Processor: Intel Core i5 2500K 3.30GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Quad Core)
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Nov 2011 at 1:45am
For better current and future performance go with 2600k.

you can't even take advantage of win7 support for ht.
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