Europe Fines Intel $1.5 Billion in Antitrust Case

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/14/business/global/14compete.html?_r=1&hp

Bill Gates may have a great product but it's no secret how he goes to market.  It'll be interesting once rival companies start to gain market share and give Microsoft a run for their money.  Nothing good comes from monopolies.

That's not the point.  The point is the ethical approach.  Whether you see it or not, or believe it or not, ethics should always play a part in your business.  What is the underlying motive in your approach to the market?  How do you choose to achieve your projected goals?  How do you wish to be viewed by your competition while you move through the market?   Can you be as successful without paying off foreign markets to buy your products?  What is your measure of success in the market?  Does your measure go beyond the business and the revenue in what gain lies beyond the business, or does it simply stop at the revenue in how much you can add to the bottom line?  Maybe this is the overarching perspective that we should have as businessmen. 

Well funny enough I agree with both sides, on one side:

I strongly believe that companies should have some ethics, at the same time, if I were to boycott every company that didn't use ethics, then I pretty much would not be able to use any company.

these days companies only care about money, ethics is pretty much last on the list, if anybody here thinks that if tables were turned, amd would not be doing such things, is just kidding themselves.

I'm sure if we look at amd's operation real close we will find bunch of unethical things also.

Originally posted by tman5890 Well in that case, Apple is definitely in the wrong for using those ads to mock Microsoft so that they get more customers.

a true champ never needs to win by making others look bad, instead a true champ beats the best while the best is in its best condition.

Yup I agree with everything you are saying, I try to make my statment by finding another company I trust, for example here I find DS to be a great company with much ethics from what I can tell.

I hate my isps here, comcrap is the worst so I went to another place and they are all crap

Originally posted by DST4ME Well funny enough I agree with both sides, on one side: I strongly believe that companies should have some ethics, at the same time, if I were to boycott every company that didn't use ethics, then I pretty much would not be able to use any company. these days companies only care about money, ethics is pretty much last on the list, if anybody here thinks that if tables were turned, amd would not be doing such things, is just kidding themselves. I'm sure if we look at amd's operation real close we will find bunch of unethical things also.

Except for DSO of course

I'll just say that all big businesses have one goad first, and thats money and not ethics so every single big company at some point has broken some ethics in order to do what its there to do which is make money.

Unless we know every aspect of AMD, which we don't, then to stay AMD has stayed clean is only an opinion based on little info, which then makes that opinion a weak one.


that IMO you keep saying is a big IMO, and my IMO and your IMO don't mean zilch to reality of how big companies are run and the fact that we don't' know the whole picture to sit here and say one company is clean and one is not, otherwise a thief is only a thief if they get caught, which we know is BS, if you steal you are a thief, whether you get caught or not, and if you know how big companies are run then you know the smart money is on the fact that if you dig you will find things you don't agree with ethically.


BTW your walmart sells groceries? around here they don't, not that I would buy it from them anyways.


I agree with some of the points you are making, but knowing that business's first goal is money, otherwise it can't exist, then it becomes obvious that at some point the ethics line has to be crossed in order to stay in business, specially when you are big one, like Intel, IBM, AMD and etc.

OPTi Receives Ruling in Markman Hearing in Patent Infringement Action Against Advanced Micro On November 15, 2006, the Company announced that it has filed a complaint against AMD, in the Eastern District of Texas, for infringement of its U.S. patents covering its "pre-snoop" technology. The two patents currently at issue in the lawsuit are U.S. patent No. 5,710,906 and U.S. patent No. 6,405,291, both entitled "Predictive Snooping of Cache Memory for Master-Initiated Accesses". The complaint alleges that AMD infringes the patents by making, selling, and offering for sale products based on and incorporating Predictive Snooping technology in various of its products and inducing and contributing to the infringement of the patents by others. In the ruling, the Court adopted OPTi's proposed construction with respect to 4 of the 5 items at issue and rejected both parties construction on the fifth item. OPTi is requesting an award of damages for the infringement of its technology and for reimbursement of its litigation expenses.    Bernie Marren, President and CEO, of OPTi stated, "We are pleased with the Markman hearing ruling and remain confident in our position concerning AMD's infringement of the patents in dispute."

thats just one, dig more and find more no business is an angel, it goes against being a business.

Edited by DST4ME - 05 Jun 2009 at 2:20am