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Exploit Allows Complete Control of Windows 7 Machine

With Windows being the predominant operating system in the world, it's no surprise that it has the widest number of hacks and attacks aimed at it. As a result, Windows is often considered the least secure operating system by some users.

Windows 7 is out as a beta and the final version is expected sometime this year or early next year. Microsoft has also started to circulate the latest release candidate build of the operating system among developers and testers. Despite the fact that the operating system isn't officially available yet, a pair of security researchers have already shown a way that a computer running Windows 7 can be completely taken over during the boot process.

Researchers Vipin Kumar and Nitin Kumar have demonstrated proof-of-concept code that the pair developed called VBootkit 2.0. The software injects code into the Windows machine during boot up and allows the complete takeover of the machine and access to all files on the system.

Vipin Kumar said, "There's no fix for this. It cannot be fixed. It's a design problem."

Network World reports that while the attack allows a nefarious user to completely take over a Windows 7 computer, the attack is not a serious threat since it can’t be carried out remotely. A hacker would have to gain direct access to the computer to initiate the hack. The injected software allowing the takeover of the computer would also be erased after a reboot.

However, if the hacker had direct access to the computer, the hack would be very hard to trace. The file size needed to execute the attack is very small at 3KB and makes changes to the Windows files loaded at boot; no files are changed on the computer's hard drive. This makes the VBootkit 2.0 software very difficult to detect.

The latest version of the software allows the attacker to increase their user privileges up to the system level and they can remove a user's password giving access to all of the user's files. Once the attack is complete, the software restores the user's password to ensure the attack can’t be detected.

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  Quote EdH63 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Apr 2009 at 11:38pm
With every new alarm system, encrypted and secured vault and operating system designed and developed, there is a little sweaty Filipino guy somewhere in a dark little room across the world writing codes and hacks.  Nuttins bulletproof.

Ok, it doesn't necessarily have to be a little Filipino dude, but it could be. Evil%20Smile      

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  Quote Zardoz8719 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Apr 2009 at 9:19am
Originally posted by EdH63

With every new alarm system, encrypted and secured vault and operating system designed and developed, there is a little sweaty Filipino guy somewhere in a dark little room across the world writing codes and hacks.  Nuttins bulletproof.

Ok, it doesn't necessarily have to be a little Filipino dude, but it could be. Evil%20Smile      
 
Or...Chinese, Russian...even disgruntled (ex-Microsoft) American replaced by H1B Visa applicant @ half the pay??  Geek Angry
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  Quote EdH63 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Apr 2009 at 9:25am
You're right, but I was kinda referencing this.  Remember this?


Hackers' Paradise

By DAFFYD RODERICK Manila Monday, Apr. 09, 2001

In a small, hot room in Caloocan city, one of Manila's shoddy suburbs, a 21-year-old man-child perches on a chair and turns the fan up to high. Yellow paint peels from the walls. There is no running water. The bed is a dirty mattress on a steel frame. But enthroned on a makeshift table sits a workstation worthy of a cash-rich start-up. The man leans toward his crisp, new 19-inch monitor and gets down to business. He surfs to the archive of an online florist and peruses someone's recent order for roses, complete with a mushy love letter. But this man, a hacker who uses the online handle Eyestrain, isn't interested in the saccharine prose. He is focused instead on swiping the buyer's credit card details. "See? It's that simple," he says, as he cuts and pastes the number onto his desktop. Eyestrain, who doesn't want his real name revealed, says he paid for all of his computer equipment with pilfered numbers he lifted off the Net.

Eyestrain is a far cry from the black-garbed, straggly haired hacker that has become a pop culture clichE. His short, black hair is gelled carefully in place and his fashion sense is more eager-intern than Neuromancer. But Eyestrain is as crafty as the iconic hacker when he jacks in as a dark-side programmer jamming code. The Philippines has a vast underworld of hackers, rooting through the Internet's depths while typical Web users surf the surface. But most of them, like Eyestrain, aren't so much malicious as stifled. They have skills, some creative flair and a streak of cybercourage. And the main reason that hacker gangs like the Locusts and the Abu Sayaff Boyz (unrelated to the terrorist group) battle for control of hacked servers is because with all their computer chops, they can't get a mainstream job in the impoverished Philippines. The result: a particularly virulent breed of hackers, at least a thousand strong, with real grievances, a blurry sense of right and wrong and a knack for stealing passwords and pirating software.

The poster boy of Filipino hackerdom is Onel de Guzman, the 23-year-old Manila resident blamed for allegedly unleashing last year's Love Bug virus, which wiped out files and paralyzed Internet access from Pakistan to the Pentagon. De Guzman was unemployed: he learned to hack partly by sneaking into other people's accounts to access the Internet, which he couldn't otherwise afford. That's typical: hackers in the Philippines tend to be overtrained, underutilized minds trying to satisfy their creative yearnings but kept from doing so by a variety of factors. Besides the stinging poverty that has translated into few programming gigs, political instability and the wrong kind of computer training have kept the country from following India as a beneficiary of low-cost Internet spin-off jobs, either in software or services like call centers or technical support help desks. Some 350,000 students are enrolled in computer colleges across the Philippines, but there are far fewer jobs to match their skills.

Another factor is more sociological than financial. The country's top universities�the University of the Philippines, Ateneo de Manila, De La Salle University�are dominated by students from rich and middle-class families who attended the top high schools. They eventually percolate into the Elite jobs available for graduates. For less-pedigreed programmers, the pickings can remain lean all their lives.

Born to a poor family in Lucena City in the southern Philippines, Eyestrain first tapped a keyboard when he was 12. His school had just received its first computer, and it was love at first byte. "I couldn't get enough," he says. "As soon as I sat down at it, I got it." He skipped lunch hours and stayed late after school to get a turn at the terminal. Neither of his parents�his dad is a machinist, his mom a store clerk�had even used a typewriter. Hungry for more than he could learn in his small hometown, Eyestrain went to Manila at age 17 to attend Systems Technology Institute, a technical college that offers low-cost programming courses. The classes were disappointing: Eyestrain found that he knew more than his teachers. "They exempted me from classes and got me to help administer the computers," he recalls. He tried another computer school, but soon gave up on receiving a formal education in programming. Without the family or the academic background to get into a computer science degree program at one of the country's Elite institutions, he drifted home.

Chatting online with some Manila friends in 1999, Eyestrain decided to return to the capital. He got off the bus with $150 in his pocket and hopes of finding work as a programmer or system administrator. But without a degree, finding computer work has been impossible. Ieta Chi, general manager at Trend Microsystems, an antivirus company that employs more than 280 people at its Manila office, says his desk is flooded with applicants like Eyestrain. "We can't really afford to waste time seeing people who haven't even finished school," Chi says.

Instead of returning to his backward hometown, however, Eyestrain stayed in Manila and became a cyberthief. By hacking into several e-commerce websites, he has built up a database of hundreds of credit card numbers. To use them without risking arrest, he set up a mailing system through a chat room, a kind of Net Bandits Clearing House. It works like this: "I order two monitors, they get sent to an address in Tacoma, Washington, that the guy I met in the chat room has access to, and then he forwards me one monitor and keeps the other for himself," says Eyestrain, with a sheepish smile on his face. The address isn't attached to the accomplice and each credit card is only used once. Almost all of his hardware has been illicitly gained, and now Eyestrain is using some of it to commit even more cybercrime, burning pirated CDs that he sells for $1.20 each. Hardly the job of his dreams, but it's easy and gives him plenty of time for hacking.

More than 40 Philippine websites have been hacked in the past year, including those of the nation's navy and air force, popular portal Yehey.com and AMA computer college. On many of the sites hackers have left obscene messages berating the system administrator for sloppy security while also heaping scorn on rival hackers, in a boasting battle similar to those between rappers. "When creativity expresses itself in an immature way, it can often be destructive," says Randy David, a sociology professor at the University of the Philippines. That's especially true, he points out, in a class-ridden country where hackers have the chance to lash out at powerful institutions they consider repressive. "In cyberspace it doesn't matter if you're a Roxas, a Lopez or a Zobel," he says, ticking off the Philippines' leading families. "No one knows your identity. You can't begin to imagine the impact this has on a hierarchical society like ours."

Eyestrain's friend Hiiro, a more stereotypical geek with Coke-bottle spectacles and a microchip key-chain dangling from his belt, doesn't dabble in credit cards and says he has "knocked some sense" into his pal. (Tapping into other people's Internet accounts, however, is still considered fair game.) Both men would prefer to go legit and offer their services as security advisers to local ISPs. They're not getting far. "They just ignore us," says Hiiro. When their user databases get hacked and they find a few thousand missing credit card numbers, these websites and isps may regret that decision.




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@ EdH63   A sizable chunk of typing--if you typed this post by hand--and demonstrates your concern.
 
Where to start...and perhaps this isn't the place...then again--where is?  (My) Reason for caution is...this can/will quickly cut into/across political, educational, and even religious lines.  That being said...I see this (and many other acts of hostility) as symptoms--not the disease.  Poverty, political and economic cast systems...too much wealth in too few hands...and the widening gap between the haves and the have-nots...breeds contempt and frustration.  To advocate a broader distribution of wealth/resources etc...is to be branded a "Socialist"...or worse. 
 
"There but by the grace of God go I"...and I often wonder...how far would I go when/if "push comes to shove"?
 
....Ya, it's Sunday....and no I don't feel the need to pontificate...but, I am concerned--very concerned.  Is the American dream just an illusion...are we all subject to being downsized, outsourced, or otherwise relegated obsolete by those with money/new technology?  Is it "progress" for the few to elevate themselves on the backs of so many".   Ying%20Yang
 
Can a man truly feel like a man...when he can't support himself or his family...  Jobs, with a living wage...respect, dignity, and acceptance that we're all in this together.  To often...I feel like we're just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic...sure, we have more "stuff" to buy...but, what is (our) gross National Index of Happiness (Bhutan has one)?
 
 


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No, I pasted it from an excerpt from back in the day.  It just reminds me of the age we live in, and no doubt many actions are driven by political and economic reasons.  I'm assuming you're not looking at me, now, as part of a problem.  Let me put it this way, I will not assume you're doing that.  I am just reflecting on a moment in time that this happened.  Nevertheless, it is more common than some realize and it has been a reality for awhile.

I agree with what you're saying, Zardoz8719, and I believe from your post, you and I stand on the same core beliefs.  Not to digress too far from the point, but America is a different place today.  I really see the time for a new revolution coming if we're going to change the standards for tomorrow.

I yield the rest of my time to the Speaker of the House.


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  Quote Zurginator Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Apr 2009 at 5:28pm
$50 says you can do the exact same thing to Mac OSx.

Just nobody has tried because nobody cares.
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  Quote EdH63 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Apr 2009 at 6:43pm
Originally posted by Zurginator

$50 says you can do the exact same thing to Mac OSx.

Just nobody has tried because nobody cares.


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  Quote Zardoz8719 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Apr 2009 at 8:57am
Originally posted by EdH63

No, I pasted it from an excerpt from back in the day.  It just reminds me of the age we live in, and no doubt many actions are driven by political and economic reasons.  I'm assuming you're not looking at me, now, as part of a problem.  Let me put it this way, I will not assume you're doing that.  I am just reflecting on a moment in time that this happened.  Nevertheless, it is more common than some realize and it has been a reality for awhile.

I agree with what you're saying, Zardoz8719, and I believe from your post, you and I stand on the same core beliefs.  Not to digress too far from the point, but America is a different place today.  I really see the time for a new revolution coming if we're going to change the standards for tomorrow.

I yield the rest of my time to the Speaker of the House.
Yum'pin yim'mi'ny...did I get off message there...?  Guess your story hit a nerve.
 
First, you assume correctly--No, I don't see you as part of the problem.  And, sorry if it seemed I was flogging the "messenger".
 
Looking back, even I wonder, why I seemed to take the view/side of the hacker vs. the obvious/intended good against evil...us against them position?  Is there really a "defense for such lawlessness?
 
In my own defense, maybe, I was trying to look past the tried/true obvious position(s)...beyound "they're" no-good philosophy (ha, ha...).  Although, (from the hacker's point of view) having no job, no money, no future, and no hope are pretty obvious.  Thing is..."chasing" and managing" are two things we (as government/business) do best.  But, our tried and true methods don't seem to result in any significant change(s).  Then again, are they even intended to ?
 
Once upon a time, I believed drug companies/big Pharma had our best interests at heart...till I realized the twin approaches of chasing/managing (a disease) is far more profitable than catching/curing one.  And I wondered how a diminished "drug pipeline" or the loss of prestige/jobs/grant-money would affect the (long term) bottom line--and I really began feeling like just one of the sheep being herded around...and sheared on a regular basis (through the purchase of life-long medications/refills).
 
Am I cynical...you bet!  The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.  I'm tired...tired of never-ending battles (not to mention the cost in cash and lives) of endless confrontations between opposing forces/ideas...made clear to us through the wonders of advertising.  Governments may rise and fall...but, Joe-average never seems to be elevated by the rising tide (or trickle-down-economics) that lifts all ships/individual prosperity.  I'm frequently reminded of the line in the book/movie "Dune" "the sleeper must awake". 
 
Now, I'm sure this didn't clear up a damn thing...except that I believe us to be on the same side too.  I just want you to know I did enjoy talking/venting and feel better having put this on paper--and for a Monday I'll have to settle for that.
 
As for the "revolution"...I think (I hope...) it's already started...the "beginnings" of something (big) are many times only visible/appreciated in retrospect--lets hope so.  If it hasn't started--sign me up!!  Ermm
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  Quote EdH63 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Apr 2009 at 4:13pm
Originally posted by Zardoz8719

Originally posted by EdH63

No, I pasted it from an excerpt from back in the day.  It just reminds me of the age we live in, and no doubt many actions are driven by political and economic reasons.  I'm assuming you're not looking at me, now, as part of a problem.  Let me put it this way, I will not assume you're doing that.  I am just reflecting on a moment in time that this happened.  Nevertheless, it is more common than some realize and it has been a reality for awhile.

I agree with what you're saying, Zardoz8719, and I believe from your post, you and I stand on the same core beliefs.  Not to digress too far from the point, but America is a different place today.  I really see the time for a new revolution coming if we're going to change the standards for tomorrow.

I yield the rest of my time to the Speaker of the House.
Yum'pin yim'mi'ny...did I get off message there...?  Guess your story hit a nerve.
 
First, you assume correctly--No, I don't see you as part of the problem.  And, sorry if it seemed I was flogging the "messenger".
 
Looking back, even I wonder, why I seemed to take the view/side of the hacker vs. the obvious/intended good against evil...us against them position?  Is there really a "defense for such lawlessness?
 
In my own defense, maybe, I was trying to look past the tried/true obvious position(s)...beyound "they're" no-good philosophy (ha, ha...).  Although, (from the hacker's point of view) having no job, no money, no future, and no hope are pretty obvious.  Thing is..."chasing" and managing" are two things we (as government/business) do best.  But, our tried and true methods don't seem to result in any significant change(s).  Then again, are they even intended to ?
 
Once upon a time, I believed drug companies/big Pharma had our best interests at heart...till I realized the twin approaches of chasing/managing (a disease) is far more profitable than catching/curing one.  And I wondered how a diminished "drug pipeline" or the loss of prestige/jobs/grant-money would affect the (long term) bottom line--and I really began feeling like just one of the sheep being herded around...and sheared on a regular basis (through the purchase of life-long medications/refills).
 
Am I cynical...you bet!  The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.  I'm tired...tired of never-ending battles (not to mention the cost in cash and lives) of endless confrontations between opposing forces/ideas...made clear to us through the wonders of advertising.  Governments may rise and fall...but, Joe-average never seems to be elevated by the rising tide (or trickle-down-economics) that lifts all ships/individual prosperity.  I'm frequently reminded of the line in the book/movie "Dune" "the sleeper must awake". 
 
Now, I'm sure this didn't clear up a damn thing...except that I believe us to be on the same side too.  I just want you to know I did enjoy talking/venting and feel better having put this on paper--and for a Monday I'll have to settle for that.
 
As for the "revolution"...I think (I hope...) it's already started...the "beginnings" of something (big) are many times only visible/appreciated in retrospect--lets hope so.  If it hasn't started--sign me up!!  Ermm


I think many people share your view.  There are three kinds of people, those who live in regret and always look back, those who sit in the middle of the road and are too scared to make a decision, never moving forward and then there are those who get up and start walking eventhough they don't know what's on the dark horizon ahead of them. 

If we want to see change in the world, we will have to take a proactive posture and begin to trust that our future is before us, not behind us.  This means that we will have to learn to risk those things that we have become comfortable with; those things that get in the way of what we really know to be truth. 
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I think many people share your view.  There are three kinds of people, those who live in regret and always look back, those who sit in the middle of the road and are too scared to make a decision, never moving forward and then there are those who get up and start walking eventhough they don't know what's on the dark horizon ahead of them. 

If we want to see change in the world, we will have to take a proactive posture and begin to trust that our future is before us, not behind us.  This means that we will have to learn to risk those things that we have become comfortable with; those things that get in the way of what we really know to be truth. 
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I hear you on the "This means that we will have to learn to risk those things that we have become comfortable with; those things that get in the way of what we really know to be truth".  I realize you're talking (more) mentally here vs. the physical acquisition of things/stuff.  Maybe, it's just in Florida...but, the number of rental "storage areas/containers" is beginning to outstrip the gas stations.  I mean, ya gotta wonder what everybody is storing/why they need it/and why they're willing to keep paying to do it??  The wife and I started a campaign a while back to minimize...get rid of/give away (to those who need/can use) all the STUFF we have accumulated and let collect dust/display.  Began wondering if I owned my stuff--or it owned me?
 
Same goes for the "dusty mental faculties" too...  Like watching the same programs...especially News...you know the ones--that patronize you and tell you what you want to hear--the ones that reinforce the "rut" we're in and tell you everything is going to be fine.  We need to "see" not just look--expand our horizons...and get off our collective asses once in a while...  And, ya, I could stand to lose a few pounds too.
 
Was thinking...other forum members who happen across this discussion have got to wonder if we arn't posting on the wrong forum--I mean, what does this have to do with computers...?  And then, earlier this afternoon I read a post from someone who was complaining of being "bored"...and I thought...why not have a separate topic area (within this forum) to discuss abstract ideas/topics that don't fit other areas/subjects.  And call it the "Waiting Room" for those of us who keep checking the posts (every five minutes) for the latest info on computers etc... but, read faster than new info arrives?  No offense...there are a lot of interesting people here...and maybe I'm just guessing...but, I think they're more than "one-trick-ponies" capable of thinking/conversing on other levels/topics.  Just a thought.  
 
One more thing...I was also thinking...that since you're senior to me (in number of posts) you should be the one to make it happen...ha, ha...  Ermm 
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  Quote Zurginator Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Apr 2009 at 5:20pm
So I just found out, it actually is entirely possible to do this to Mac OSX. So much for the 'invulnerable' OS. :P
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I think many people share your view.  There are three kinds of people, those who live in regret and always look back, those who sit in the middle of the road and are too scared to make a decision, never moving forward and then there are those who get up and start walking eventhough they don't know what's on the dark horizon ahead of them. 

If we want to see change in the world, we will have to take a proactive posture and begin to trust that our future is before us, not behind us.  This means that we will have to learn to risk those things that we have become comfortable with; those things that get in the way of what we really know to be truth. 
 
I hear you on the "This means that we will have to learn to risk those things that we have become comfortable with; those things that get in the way of what we really know to be truth".  I realize you're talking (more) mentally here vs. the physical acquisition of things/stuff.  Maybe, it's just in Florida...but, the number of rental "storage areas/containers" is beginning to outstrip the gas stations.  I mean, ya gotta wonder what everybody is storing/why they need it/and why they're willing to keep paying to do it??  The wife and I started a campaign a while back to minimize...get rid of/give away (to those who need/can use) all the STUFF we have accumulated and let collect dust/display.  Began wondering if I owned my stuff--or it owned me?
 
Same goes for the "dusty mental faculties" too...  Like watching the same programs...especially News...you know the ones--that patronize you and tell you what you want to hear--the ones that reinforce the "rut" we're in and tell you everything is going to be fine.  We need to "see" not just look--expand our horizons...and get off our collective asses once in a while...  And, ya, I could stand to lose a few pounds too.
 
Was thinking...other forum members who happen across this discussion have got to wonder if we arn't posting on the wrong forum--I mean, what does this have to do with computers...?  And then, earlier this afternoon I read a post from someone who was complaining of being "bored"...and I thought...why not have a separate topic area (within this forum) to discuss abstract ideas/topics that don't fit other areas/subjects.  And call it the "Waiting Room" for those of us who keep checking the posts (every five minutes) for the latest info on computers etc... but, read faster than new info arrives?  No offense...there are a lot of interesting people here...and maybe I'm just guessing...but, I think they're more than "one-trick-ponies" capable of thinking/conversing on other levels/topics.  Just a thought.  
 
One more thing...I was also thinking...that since you're senior to me (in number of posts) you should be the one to make it happen...ha, ha...  Ermm 
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Well, I don't think DS would consider, and I wouldn't expect them too, a separate forum simply because this is their business and computers are the flavor of the day, everyday.  I'm surprised we haven't been moderated yet. :)

But hey, who knows, maybe they'll do it because they know we're hanging around and they don't want it in these forums.
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  Quote Zardoz8719 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Apr 2009 at 8:21pm
@ EdH63  It was just an idea...like different sections of a "newspaper" with divergent topics--the main section would always be computers.  You can only read so many "configuration" lists before you go cross-eyed...I don't know how DST4ME does it (and he does it well).  Ok, lets get back to computers...  Take care...and "happy" posting...  Ouch


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Yes, DTS4ME is quite the enigma.  I think we all want to be like him when we grow up. 

Happy posting back at ya!
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