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    Posted: 27 Aug 2009 at 4:41pm
We wanted to get some feedback on the special deals for our desktop computers (http://www.digitalstormonline.com/gamingcomputers.asp).
 
Basically, in terms of the configuration, what would you like to see? [Don't forget, requesting for certain items will obviously drive the price(s) up; so make sure your thoughts would justify for the budget, we all would like to put a juicy 1000W PSU with a X58 Classified but, we have to watch the price].
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  Quote Caleb Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Aug 2009 at 5:00pm
Extreme I
I think the 1TB either change 1x500gb or else 2x500gb, and a 1000w psu.

Other Thoughts: It's a great deal though and I'd still recommended it to customers if they asked my advice one which one to buy. 10/10 Stars

Other Thoughts: Ehh 4/10 Stars

Extreme II
In the extreme II to I'd like to see the 295 change to 2x275(s). I'd defiantly buy it then in like..a heart beat, actually in less than a heart beat.

Extreme III
Insted of 1 TB, then 500 give them 3 500GB HDD's.

Other Thoughts: Looks good. 8/10 stars

I hope I gave you the kind of feedback you wanted...
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  Quote Sodius Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Aug 2009 at 5:11pm
Ok, cool question.
 
1. I would like to see the Cyber Boxes have a see through side window with glowing lights inside.
 
2. It would be cool if the customer could pick Vista 32 or 64 bit OS on all pre-builds.
 
3. 4 gig ram on performance 1 machine would be a nice upgrade.
 
I will give it more thought as well but that is at first glance. Ouch
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  Quote sdelu Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Aug 2009 at 5:30pm
I'll go first, I guess. Though by the time I finish I may not be first ;p

Let's see... the current batch of prebuilts aren't bad at all, but I would like to see (on the ENTHUSIAST 1 and 2):

- EVGA x58 LE instead of the micro boards
- the corsair 750W instead of the 700W. Is that the chieftec in those models?
- if the noctua gets better temps than the asetek, dump the asetek.

Those changes shouldn't drastically increase the price, but I think would be well worth the added cash.

The OC in both systems is beyond awesome, so that doesn't need to change. Maybe offer 6GB RAM throughout all the higher end systems?


Anyway, for the EXTREME 1:

- EVGA x58 LE instead of the micro, especially with the SLI setup I think that would be a much better mobo choice. This is getting into "high end" and people may want room to add even more stuff to their system!

- Again, cooler can change depending on temps. I think if you're going to put a liquid cooling system in a high(ish)-end rig, you might as well go with the frostbite...

- And yet again, up the PSU. People may want to add a third 275 at some point (which they can't do with the x58M as it is!!) and that would require a better PSU. Perhaps the 910W pc p&c?


EXTREME 2:

- No reason for a 1200W PSU in this, unless it is cheaper than other high-end PSUs. Still, with only 1 295 that seems excessive and only serves to drive up the price.

-2x275 may be a better choice than one 295. Of course, I can see how the 295 would draw more customers who aren't aware that 2 275s can outmatch one 295. It's also cool to say you have a GTX 295, lol.

- Asetek still? Again, depending on performance this might warrant a change.

- Everything else is alright, but you're getting into "high end" here, so the full x58 3x SLI from EVGA may be a better choice than the LE. Depends on how you wish to price it, I guess.

EXTREME 3:

- Frostbite. If I were to drop 2800 on a new computer, I might want to add another 200 for a far superior cooling solution, especially with 2 295's sitting in there also.
- EVGA X58 3X SLI. The LE is for budget systems, not high end systems, and with 2 295s it is certainly high end.
- That's a huge PSU. Is it necessary or would something a bit smaller suffice?


Now, in the future I wouldn't mind seeing some nice Hailstorm prebuilts. I think a good mid-high-end prebuilt for the Hailstorm would be...

-Frostbite LC system
-EVGA x58 LE or the 3X SLI
-2x GTX 275
- minimum corsair 750W psu, preferably 900W or higher.
- 6 GB of RAM, either 1600 or 1333. For the price difference, might as well be 1600.
- same HDDs as offered already, 500 GB or 1 TB both seem like good choices.
- Everything else pretty much the same (DVD drives, sound, etc.). OC anywhere in the range of the current prebuilts would be fine.

That would be a pretty good system and probably run for around 2,000-2,200 based on the current prebuilts. Actually, the EXTREME 2 could probably be replaced with something like this, and do much better.

The Hailstorm could also breed the EXTREME 4, whatever that may be. A small number of very high-end systems might be a pretty good idea for the "super" enthusiasts


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  Quote lock52 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Aug 2009 at 5:32pm
The ONLY thing keeping me from the prebuilt Extreme 1 is the motherboard and the lack of raid configuration on the hard drive.

Motherboard that offers triple SLI for future upgrades and 2x 500GB hdds would make it PERFECT for most imo...me included :)
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  Quote sdelu Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Aug 2009 at 5:35pm
Originally posted by lock52

The ONLY thing keeping me from the prebuilt Extreme 1 is the motherboard and the lack of raid configuration on the hard drive.

Motherboard that offers triple SLI for future upgrades and 2x 500GB hdds would make it PERFECT for most imo...me included :)


Yes, that is something I thought was strange from day one. That system should have at least the X58 LE.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Aug 2009 at 7:46pm
All my comments are toward the enthusiast and extreme builds:

use LE on all

use 1000w on all

use 1 x 500GB on all

use single or dual sli 275 gtx on all

I don't care for the asetek and if v8 brings better prices go with that, its stage one oc.

Edited by DST4ME - 27 Aug 2009 at 7:47pm
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  Quote B-Comp Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Aug 2009 at 9:40pm
Have to agree with the above comments on the Extreme 1.  What's keeping me from pulling the trigger right now is that it doesn't seem to be built for future upgrades.  Would love to see
 
LE motherboard
1000W PSU
Either V8 or Noctua
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  Quote novelreader Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Aug 2009 at 9:41pm
Enthusiast 1&2 and Extreme 1
Change the 700watt psu to a 1000watt
micro mobo to a EVGA LE
Single 1TB HD to a single 500 GB (where applicable)
Asetek cpu cooler to a noctua
 
 
 
A 1000watt psu and LE motherboard would provide customers with the option to upgrade/add-on parts in the future. Potential customers should find this "future proofing" to be a great reassurance. Also, I think a lot of people are unfamiliar with liquid cooling (LC), so they would be reluctant to use it due to all the negative associations with it (e.g. having a liquid so close to open electronics, possible maintenance). For those of us that are familiar with LC, Asetek is not the preferred choice.
 
Extreme 3:
Frostbite LC
EVGA x58 3 SLI mobo
3x 500GB HD
 
Customers purchasing/looking to purchase the Extreme 3 pre-built are buying a a top end system system, so it should also have higher end parts like Frostbite LC and superior mobo.    


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  Quote sirsiddius Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Aug 2009 at 9:57pm
I like the prebuilds, I like the asetek cooler, but if it were possible I would suggest offering limited selections on the gpu's on the extreme 2 and 3 builds.

The extreme 2 bulid could come with an option of one or two gtx 295s and the extreme 3 could have a wider selection of gpus so so if the buyer wants 2x 275 3x gtx285 or even 2x 4890 the buyer could very well add them on in the configurator.

Since as we all know a large part of gaming depends on the gpu buyers would be happier if given more choices.
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  Quote busdriver01 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Aug 2009 at 10:10pm
only think about the extreme 1 build(which I purchased) would be to change the psu to 1000w.  Although I did read that the gtx 300 series was suppose to use less power than the 285 so....
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  Quote roguejestyr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Aug 2009 at 5:34pm
Originally posted by DST4ME

All my comments are toward the enthusiast and extreme builds:

use LE on all

use 1000w on all

use 1 x 500GB on all

use single or dual sli 275 gtx on all

I don't care for the asetek and if v8 brings better prices go with that, its stage one oc.
 
fully agree with DST4ME. if the Enthusiast 2 was changed to include the LE board, 1000w PSU, 1x500GB, and 1 GTX 275, at about the same price point as it is now, i will click Buy in a flash. i don't know much about liquid cooling though, as i've never used them, so i can't provide feedback on that.
 
to echo the above posts, making the above changes to even the Enthusiast 2 provides a measure of "future proofing" peace of mind. i don't need SLI now since i only play WoW and some FPS games, but with the 275 in the Enthusiast 2 i will be able to SLI later. 
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  Quote Caleb Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Aug 2009 at 6:29pm
Alex how long will it be before your done taking our suggestions that the new builds get put up, I'm REALLY close to buying my build, and if gets put on the pre-config'd list a week after I buy it with Free LCing ha I'm gunna be so upset!!!
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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Aug 2009 at 6:59pm
Hang on till the current special deals run out then bud!
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  Quote Caleb Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Aug 2009 at 7:00pm
So once all the prebuilds are gone your going to replace them :D?
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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Aug 2009 at 7:10pm
Bingo.
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  Quote satsunada Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Aug 2009 at 7:28pm
Actually, I rather appreciate the deals for what they are: a place to dump all the stuff we don't recommend others buying. Not that it's bad products or not cool, I'm just aware that you're trying to get rid of onhand inventory as compared with hot sellers.. that we generally recommend. That said, do what you feel is right, keep it up with the cheap computers and get an east coast store opened up with the surplus cash so you can keep things rolling more consistently. At the very least hire a tech or two to get 24 hour weekly tech support info. Even if it's only during weekdays you'd make alot of people happy.
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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Aug 2009 at 8:11pm
Great feedback.
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One of the things I look to Digital Storm for is upgradeability, rather than a system that's locked into 'x' the day I bring it home. If I wanted something that lacked upgradability, I could go to Dell and get a prebuilt.
 
Therefore, the prebuilt deals mobos are what's keeping me from pulling the trigger. Configure something with a mobo that will allow me to upgrade to awesomeness later when I'm more able to afford it, and I'm more willing to pull the trigger.
 
Also, the 1tb h/d's are a turn off, since so many folks complain they take forever to maintain properly. But that's relatively minor.
 
Want to pre-build a sexy system?
 
Then something with the coolermaster 932 case, a 1000 watt power supply, an excellently upgradable mobo, 6gb system memory, a 500 gb h/d, a lower end graphics card would be fine, good liquid cooling and oc'd of course (your specialty). Top it off with a blueray if you want to make it look really nice, or just put in a dvd drive.
 
In other words, make a pre built that isn't maxxed at the current tech levels, but can still expand a few levels so that the customer can continue to upgrade. That's my opinion, at least. :) Hope it helps!
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  Quote roguejestyr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Aug 2009 at 11:34pm
Originally posted by Alex

Hang on till the current special deals run out then bud!


then i guess i'll have to be patient a little longer before getting a DS. thanks for the heads up!
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  Quote roguejestyr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 29 Aug 2009 at 12:03am
whoa! about 30 min after my last post, i went back to the desktop specials page, and all were marked as Out of Stock. does this mean new configurations are coming soon? i can't wait!
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  Quote JackButler Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Aug 2009 at 10:13pm
I would like to see the higher end pre-configured systems have a velociraptor HDD, or eventually as prices come down an SSD for the operating system drive. As someone considering buying a high end system, seeing that and being unable to customize/change the drives is a turn off to these systems.


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  Quote B-Comp Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Aug 2009 at 10:22pm
looks like we are waiting a bit longer...Wink
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Aug 2009 at 11:33pm
Originally posted by JackButler

I would like to see the higher end pre-configured systems have a velociraptor HDD, or eventually as prices come down an SSD for the operating system drive. As someone considering buying a high end system, seeing that and being unable to customize/change the drives is a turn off to these systems.


then just go and configure a system where you can choose whatever you like, the prbuilds are cheaper for a reason, they don't take as much time and effort to build as a custom system, they all have the same parts and specs. A tech building prebuilds is gonna build more pcs then a tech building custom systems, that turns into saving cost on labor, which then turns into discount for us, thus you can change things on a prebuild, it will drive up the cost.
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  Quote lock52 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 31 Aug 2009 at 12:37am
I love you guys...The new extreme 2 and 3 systems are PERFECT! I will very likely be pulling the trigger on one of the two very soon (either the extreme 2 and replacing the 295 with 2x 275 and sell the 295 or just go with the extreme 3 and keep the 2x295!)
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I agree with everyone, the MB must change to 3 SLI LE. You have a great case but  with a Micro MB is no place to upgrade further. V8 and the LCLC almost the same price, but i prefer the V8 more. V8 has the look and its AIR lolz. Also, i rather have 500GB rather than 1TB.
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6 gigs of ram on the e1 would be nice because 3 gigs is lower than what i have in my laptop lo which is a major turnoff for that pc

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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Sep 2009 at 1:45am

Surprise:

NEW Labor Day Specials: Don't Wait! (http://digitalstormonline.com/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=8116)
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Hi - You purchased the extreme 1?  I'm taking delivery on one of those tomorrow.  I weighed whether I'd need more than 12 gigs of RAM, more than 2 video cards and read the reviews of the mobo.  Most say that aside from the lack of a 3rd graphics card expansion, this mobio comes very close to what the CLASSIFIED offers in terms of quality and feature set.  So I bought an additional 6 gigs of DDR3 1600 COOL BLUE Mushkin RAM (it arrived in one day from N-Egg) and am waiting to install it in this 2.75 Mhz OC'd Asetek H20 cooled beast tower.  I forgot that if I want to be here to take delivery I better run out now and buy some A/V (Norton probably) software!Confused
 
So, would you do it again, how does it run, tell me what to expect!  Also, did you get anything else to install (like a card reader, 2nd burner, front mounted sound card?)  - I'm thinking of going with a lightscribe to burn copies of the music I'll be recoring with this machine and a card reader since I have so many cameras and also make short videos for educational websites) . 
 
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