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Post Date: 2011-11-06
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    Posted: 06 Nov 2011 at 4:18pm
Hi guys, I would really appreciate any feedback on the following proposed build.  Lots of questions below.

A few things to keep in mind:
  • Budget: ~3000$ USD
  • Usage: 100% gaming (own second productivity box)
  • Peripherals: all pre-existing
  • Notes:
    • 1000W PSU is to support eventual upgrade to SLI (additional GPU will be purchased later)
Some specific questions:
  • Is water cooling worth the additional 250$?
I did another identical build but replaced the Sub-zero cooling option with the Noctua NH-D14.  It appears the Noctua would essentially have the same overclocking potential as the Sub-zero, is this true?  If so, what is the real advantage of the Sub-zero here?  Just aesthetics?

My biggest fear with water cooling is long term reliability.  I couldn't find any details on the fail safe mechanisms the DS custom solutions have in place.  What happens in case of crimped tube or pump failure?

For the Assassin, the Sub-zero looks like the only option employing metal hose clamps.  As a novice, metal inspires much more confidence over plastic.  Is there a noticeable  difference in build quality between the Sub-zero and other solutions or this really just aesthetic?  Does anyone know the actual part numbers used in the various solutions?
  • Is 120G enough for now?
The model I've been following with all my boxes is a fast local RAID1+0 and then a large media/data RAID1 NAS.  Eventually I will add 3x120G drives to give me a single ~240G volume. 

This will be my first Win build since '95.  How many games can I realistically expect to have installed at any given time?  I do have a separate productivity box but Win 7 Pro itself apparently eats up a whopping  20GB.
  • 1.5G vs. 3G of GPU memory?
My target displays are a 2056x1600 30" LCD and 1920x1080 59" plasma.  From my understanding, the 2056x1600 resolution can affect the required amount of GPU memory.  Is this really something to be concerned about?

My target games are largely MMO RPGs (WoW and Star Wars TOR).  Will these types of games benefit substantially from an upgrade in GPU memory?
  • Build time?
I know we are getting into the Holiday season so I'm not sure what to realistically expert in terms of build time.  Does DS post the current lead time anywhere?
Build details:

  • Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Black OPS Assassin Edition
  • Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
  • Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
  • Processor: Intel Core i7 2700K 3.50 GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Quad Core)
  • Motherboard: ASUS Maximus IV Extreme-Z (Intel Z68 Chipset) (Features Intel Quick Sync Technology)
  • System Memory: 8GB DDR3 2000MHz GTX-8 Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended)
  • Power Supply: 1000W SliverStone Strider Gold (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) (ST1000-G)
  • Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
  • Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (120GB Solid State (By: Corsair) (Model: Force GT Series CSSD-F120GBGT-BK) (SATA 6Gbps)
  • Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
  • Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
  • Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
  • Optical Drive 1: Blu-Ray & DVD Writer/Reader (Burn + Play Blu-Ray & DVDs) (12x BD-R) (Lite-On iHBS112)
  • Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
  • Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
  • Video Card(s): 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 1.5GB (Includes PhysX) (Overclocked EVGA Edition)
  • Add-on Card: - No Thanks
  • Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
  • Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 4: Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System: CPU Only
  • H20 Tube Color: Black Tubing with High-Performance Fluid (UV Lighting Reactive)
  • Chassis Airflow: Upgrade Chassis With Zalman Performance Fans (Up to 6 Fans)
  • Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (White)
  • Enhancements: - No Thanks
  • Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
  • Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
  • LaserMark: - No Thanks
  • CPU Boost: Stage 3: Overclock CPU 4.9GHz to 5.2GHz (Requires Extreme Series Motherboard)
  • Graphics Boost: FREE: Yes, Overclock the video card(s) as much as possible with complete stability
  • Memory Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
  • OS Boost: FREE: Yes, Disable and tweak all of the non-crucial services on the operating system
  • Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (64-Bit Edition)
  • Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
  • Virus Protection: - No Thanks
  • Office: - No Thanks
  • Pre-Install Game: - No Thanks
  • Display: - No Thanks
  • Surge Shield: - No Thanks
  • Speakers: - No Thanks
  • Keyboard: - No Thanks
  • Mouse: - No Thanks
  • External Storage: - No Thanks
  • Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
  • Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
  • Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty
Thanks for the feedback/answers!
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Posts: 36758 		  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Nov 2011 at 9:33pm
give me the ticket number for that build.

proper lc system (stage 4 or higher) will give you better load temps, but for stage 1 and 2 oc here the air coolers do a great job, lc is more of a luxury or for benchmarkers.

if a pump fails you will over heat and system will shutdown.

assassin is small and not the best choice for lc system at all.

every time you add a drive to raid that means a fresh install of os.

you can just add drives (ssds) on their own separately and install games on there, no need for raid.

how many games will fit depends on your games's sizes, but I would only put the ones on there I'm playing now.

for games like wow sli will not help with anything.

with that oc you will need to get a new cpu next year, and DS only gives you a 1 year part warranty.

the fan upgrade/os boost and gpu oc are all a waste and bring nothing to the table, well the fan upgrade brings lot of noise to the table.

your build needs lot of changing, give me the ticket number and I will do it for you.

Nvidia Drivers----AMD Drivers
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Posts: 26 		  Quote elmoe Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Nov 2011 at 9:48pm
Incorporated some of your feedback, here is the build: 613938

Thanks for the help!
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Posts: 36758 		  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Nov 2011 at 10:00pm
needs to be changed to this:

Here you go Ticket# 613948 --- $2,657 (To see this build click here)

Copy of Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.40GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 Deluxe (Intel P67 Chipset) (New & Improved B3 Revision Without SATA 3G Issue)
System Memory: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1050W Corsair Pro Silver 1050HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (120GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: 320 Series)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (64MB Cache) (Model: Black Edition)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: Blu-Ray & DVD Writer/Reader (Burn + Play Blu-Ray & DVDs) (12x BD-R) (Lite-On iHBS112)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 2.5GB (Includes PhysX) (EVGA 025-P3-1579-AR)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-D14 Extreme Performance (Does NOT fit on the regular EVGA X58 3X SLI)
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires Pro or Deluxe Series Motherboard)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty

Nvidia Drivers----AMD Drivers
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