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Ok, Alex...you asked what it's going to take to get me to buy a computer today...and after some thought I came up with this:  I was waiting for a "clean install" of Windows 7 in Oct...or at least (wait) until after July 2nd (when supposidly there are free upgrade coupons for systems purchased after that date?).  Was thinking,  If you can promise me a free upgrade coupon somewhere down the road/whenever they come out (now to Oct is fine)...and give me your best price on a crate...I'll order in the next day or two (after giving the forum time to look over my configuration.  

@ DST4ME   Ticket # 294168

Edited by Zardoz8719 - 14 Jun 2009 at 9:39pm

Originally posted by DST4ME ok looks great, but: since you have LC on everything no need for the upgrade fan and lcd temp disp. as in absolutly none. other then that just add the fan for the ram. nice build

Edited by Zardoz8719 - 14 Jun 2009 at 6:15pm

Originally posted by DST4ME My pleasure lol temp display is for the upgraded fans, the stock fan is more quiet then the upgraded fans at full speed. the corsair they have is the silent edition. switch between monitors via kvm switch. phill requested a few parts from what I understood. I didn't make a ticket since the only changes I had to make were the ones I mentioned

Originally posted by DST4ME I was just thinking and you can switch monitors via Nvidia control panel.

I'd love to give you the upgrade coupon if we had them now. However, hang on and wait until they are officially released before you place your order then. I don't want to complicate things.

@ DST4ME...  Got to thinking about your "Single-PCB GTX 295" card and wondering if going with it vs. (2) 275's are there advantages?  Price wise, the difference between the 295 and 2x275's is roughly $150... and if you LC the CPU/GPU the difference (is reduced) by about $100...(just one GPU).  Considering the cost to be a wash (close enough anyway...) is the savings in potential HEAT one GPU vs two...worth considering?  And, is the concept of eliminating "SLI" (since not all games use it) for a single beefy GPU a good idea?  And lastly, how would this effect FPS and game performance...which would be the BEST choice from a gaming perspective??     Since I'm planning on LC'ing the GPU's was curious when I read this in the EVGA release of the Single-PCB GTX 295..."EVGA also plans to sell separately a waterblock for the new card called the Hydro Copper.  The Full-cover copper waterblock ships with both 3/8-inch and 1/2-inch barbs and includes "an extreme high flow path design with a unique, integrated, pressure point."  Sounds interesting...

the 295 whether single PCB or dual PCB is in sli. its got 2 cores in there if you will still.

my reason for waiting for single PCB is mainly to see if I can fit 4 x single PCB 295 on the classified, dual PCB won't fit for sure, they won't fit on air so they have to be LCed.

now the 295 is $150 more, but I'm confused about your LC on GPU comment:

1. if you are talking about LCing one 275, well one 275 performance is no where near a performance of one 295.

2. if you LC 2 x 275 the price goes way high.

for games that don't support sli 2 x 275 will do better.

at the end 2 x 275 is the best choice for gamers no matter how you look at it.

Edited by DST4ME - 16 Jun 2009 at 11:33am

no 295 is 2 x 260 gtx, with core processor of 280 x 2. every other aspect of it match a 260.


its performance is less then 2 x 275

Edited by DST4ME - 16 Jun 2009 at 11:39am

DST, its 240x2 not 280.  and its actually more than the 260's, they have either 192 or 216 cores. (I had a 216).  So think of the 275 as a more powerful half of the 295. 2x275 is better than 1x295 because its newer. (opinion)



And EVGA just added a 1792MB version of the 275, so.. who wants 5.4GB Video RAM?


Edited by Kaleliar - 16 Jun 2009 at 12:17pm

Originally posted by Kaleliar Essentially the way it worked on my old machine before i got a 260 GTX superclocked, The game just didnt use my other one but i had it setup that way (to auto detect if a game would use the other 8800GTX).  Sorta the same as my 4870x2. Only problem i run into is windowed mode on WoW.

Originally posted by Kaleliar DST, its 240x2 not 280.  and its actually more than the 260's, they have either 192 or 216 cores. (I had a 216).  So think of the 275 as a more powerful half of the 295. 2x275 is better than 1x295 because its newer. (opinion)And EVGA just added a 1792MB version of the 275, so.. who wants 5.4GB Video RAM?

the 240 core comes from a 280 gtx, I think you misunderstood what I meant.

a 295 is a 260 gtx and a 280 gtx :



Edited by DST4ME - 16 Jun 2009 at 12:57pm

the higher the resolution the more detailed and clear the screen is.

if you have the GPU power why not set the game to high settings, but if you are happy at a certain setting, then stick with that.

a Dell 3007WFP-HC should run you like $1100 and has 2560 x 1600 resolution.

Originally posted by DST4ME the higher the resolution the more detailed and clear the screen is. if you have the GPU power why not set the game to high settings, but if you are happy at a certain setting, then stick with that. a Dell 3007WFP-HC should run you like $1100 and has 2560 x 1600 resolution.

Edited by Zardoz8719 - 17 Jun 2009 at 6:12am

Originally posted by Zardoz8719 Originally posted by DST4ME the higher the resolution the more detailed and clear the screen is. if you have the GPU power why not set the game to high settings, but if you are happy at a certain setting, then stick with that. a Dell 3007WFP-HC should run you like $1100 and has 2560 x 1600 resolution.   "the higher the resolution the more detailed and clear the screen is"...Gotcha, I get the same result when I put my glass on now   Guess I was thinking--like the chicken and the egg--which came first?  Does one just happen to buy Quad-GPUs...and then start looking through ads for a high res monitors...or vice versa      Probably, more like one day you get out of bed...and you think to yourself...hey, I'm worth it....I deserve it...I'm going to get me a new rig--AND a big new monitor to go with it    Thing is...one thing escalates the other...good GPUs--need a good monitor...good Monitor--needs good GPUs...  Oh, yeah, both of them things cost (a lot) more too don't they    Well, there's still several days till the Windows coupons come out...maybe I'll browse around and check out monitors--just looking can't hurt--right.

well first let me tell you that Tri sli 285 and 275 and quad sli 295 will all give you the same performance.

however this is in games, you only need one card to run that resolution, to run games you will need Tri sli or quad sli.

what you can do is for now get the GPUs needed to run your current resolution, then when you decide to upgrade the monitor, you also add a GPU.

Originally posted by inferno23 Originally posted by Zardoz8719 Originally posted by inferno23 he check this website i found online tell me their not charging you 4k for a paint job   What web site would that be...?? sorry cuz im trippin   http://www.smoothcreations.com/pilot.asp?pg=proddetail_xtreme

We all need therapy

Originally posted by inferno23 Originally posted by Zardoz8719 Originally posted by inferno23 he check this website i found online tell me their not charging you 4k for a paint job   What web site would that be...?? sorry cuz im trippin   http://www.smoothcreations.com/pilot.asp?pg=proddetail_xtreme

Damn! They have the chromillusion paints as an option. Mustn't ....sway... from DS for that reason alone...

Originally posted by GeneralShrooms Sure would be nice if the paint jobs here weren't so damn expensive. -$300 for exterior or interior paint job? come on. Maybe I don't want a fancy pants EXTOTIC high gloss automotive finish, I just want my interior black.  If I send them a can of spray pain do you think they will use it?