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    Posted: 28 Jun 2010 at 1:30am
Hey Everyone!
I've been wanting to get a new comp for a while now and am trying to decide between a DS rig and just building my own comp(never built one before).

So the current situation is I'm using a really old single core(1.4 ghz) laptop with only 512mb of ram and integrated graphics. Basically any system I get will be way faster than that! I'm trying to save money and keep it as a budget build, which is why I'm considering going the AMD route(no brand loyalty or preference)

1.) Don't currently game on the pc(obvious with my current hardware), but I'd like to be able to play some 1st person shooters like mw2, BFBC2, etc.(Don't care about winning benchmark competitions)

2.) thinking of using either a 24" or 27" monitor in 1920x1080...

3.) Hoping to keep the Budget to around $1300-1500

Here's what I had in mind:
http://www.digitalstormonline.com/doneconfig.asp?id=418247

Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - HAF 922
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 955 (3.2GHz) (Quad Core) (Black Edition) (8 MB Cache) AM3 Socket
Motherboard: ASUS M4A785T-M/CSM (AMD 785G Chipsets) (SATA6 and USB 2.0) (Socket AM3)
System Memory: 4GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 750W Corsair TX (Dual SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x ATI Radeon HD 5850 1GB
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 1: High Performance Cooler (Compatible With ONLY i5/AMD Processors)
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Upgrade Chassis With LED Performance Fans (Blue) (Up to 6 Fans)
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: FREE: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Cooling Upgrade Recommended)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: 3 Year Limited Warranty with Life-Time Customer Support (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Parts)

I'd appreciate any feedback/Advice you can give me! Thanks a bunch

PS- does anyone know how good the wireless network cards are for desktop gaming? My room(where the comp would be) is far from the current wireless router and don't think I can get an ethernet cable to run the long distance...
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  Quote AustinHiggs Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Jun 2010 at 9:51am
You can get a VERY cheap network cable (up to 100 ft) at this site.

monoprice.com

Very legit site, and i will try to make a config for you within your budget.

EDIT: The LED fans aren't worth it, after-market fans would be better.

Edited by AustinHiggs - 28 Jun 2010 at 10:05am
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  Quote AustinHiggs Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Jun 2010 at 10:00am
If you are willing to go a tiny bit over $1500, you can get this rig.

It has a 40GB SSD for the OS/Apps, and it has a 500GB drive for data/movies/etc.

It has an HD 5870, which will be very handy for your resolution and screen size. The 5850 wont be the best video card for the monitor.


The link doesnt seem to be working, but heres the config:

$1,539

Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master CM Storm Scout
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 965 (3.4GHz) (Quad Core) (Black Edition) (8 MB Cache) AM3 Socket
Motherboard: ASUS M4A785T-M/CSM (AMD 785G Chipsets) (SATA6 and USB 2.0) (Socket AM3)
System Memory: 4GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 750W Corsair TX (Dual SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (40GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Extreme Performance) (Model: X25-M MLC Edition)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x ATI Radeon HD 5870 1GB
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 1: High Performance Cooler (Compatible With ONLY i5/AMD Processors)
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: FREE: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Cooling Upgrade Recommended)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: 3 Year Limited Warranty with Life-Time Customer Support (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Parts)

Edited by AustinHiggs - 28 Jun 2010 at 10:02am
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  Quote ablahblah Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Jun 2010 at 2:35pm
Just suggesting another path, $133 more will net you a baseline i7 build. Sacrifices the SSD and 5870 for a single drive and a 5850, but the point of this is upgrading down the line, isn't it? o.o
Originally posted by ablahblah @ DS Forum Post >>BASELINE BUILDS<<


Basic i7 Gamer - Common Budget Limit $2000

Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - HAF 922
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 930 2.8GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 LE Edition SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports SLI or CrossFire)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 750W Digital Storm Certified (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition Recommended)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x ATI Radeon HD 5850 1GB
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 1: Noctua Dual 120mm Fans High Performance Cooler (Compatible With ONLY i7 Processors)
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Blue)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: FREE: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Cooling Upgrade Recommended)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: FREE: Yes, Disable and tweak all of the non-crucial services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: 3 Year Limited Warranty with Life-Time Customer Support (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Parts)

Price: - $1633


EDIT : Forgot, yeah, the 5850 might not be perfect. If you want, a GTX 470 is $33 away. Then again, that's going too much over budget, is it?

Edited by ablahblah - 28 Jun 2010 at 2:36pm
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  Quote KAZ Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Jun 2010 at 2:51pm
Interesting Feedback...is the 5870 really that much more powerful than a 5850? Also is an ssd for os/boot up necessary(I've never had 2 hds, just lumped everything on one).

Also my comment on the networking issue, wasn't that I didn't think a cord could reach, but rather that I don't think my parents would appreciate a cord running almost the entire length of the house(through several rooms).

*also does anyone have any thoughts on the case fan upgrades? Does the blue led upgrade mean that they replace the front red led fan(in the case of the haf 922) with a blue one?
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  Quote coolmasta Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Jun 2010 at 2:55pm
I game at 1920 by 1080 with a 5850 and it rocks MW2, WoW, and bioshock 2. BFBC2 it plays well but cannot max out the AA or a few other settings.
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  Quote KAZ Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 29 Jun 2010 at 10:29am
Here's what I'm currently thinking:

http://www.digitalstormonline.com/doneconfig.asp?id=418545

Price: $1408

Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - HAF 922
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 955 (3.2GHz) (Quad Core) (Black Edition) (8 MB Cache) AM3 Socket
Motherboard: ASUS M4A785T-M/CSM (AMD 785G Chipsets) (SATA6 and USB 2.0) (Socket AM3)
System Memory: 4GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 750W Corsair TX (Dual SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (40GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Extreme Performance) (Model: X25-M MLC Edition)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x ATI Radeon HD 5850 1GB
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 1: High Performance Cooler (Compatible With ONLY i5/AMD Processors)
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: FREE: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Cooling Upgrade Recommended)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: 3 Year Limited Warranty with Life-Time Customer Support (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Parts)

Also any thoughts on the gtx 470 vs. the ati 5850?  I hear the gtx 470 runs kind of hot...




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  Quote KAZ Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Jul 2010 at 12:12am
Anyone have any thoughts on the HAF 922?  My room has a huge problem with dust, so would the HAF 922 still be appropriate, or would the Sniper case be better?
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  Quote !ender_ Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Jul 2010 at 12:45am
haf cases are great for cooling, terrible for dust. consider the 690 II
i really think you should consider a different direction with your price range of 1500 max, you can get a lot more gaming power in your rig by leaving out the SSD. the solid states are nice to be sure, but they will not help your games.
when you are building on a budget, you have to go with need over want. ssds are great but they are still new and very overpriced, the market on them wont settle for a while but they are catching on so you can add one a little down the road if you want to.
 
consider this:
if you are uncomfortable with the budget, you could drop the processor to the the 750, though i feel this is really about the lowest you would want to go. you dont want to nickle and dime yourself out of huge jumps in power to save amounts like $10 and $16 dollars
id even suggest spending the extra 16 to get to the noctua u12p cooler
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