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Post Date: 2008-10-02

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  Quote Zeluke Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Topic: Fist time customer Review.
    Posted: 02 Oct 2008 at 10:46pm
Well I placed my order Today. After I spoke with Duke who helped a lot on my final Decision to go with Digital Storm.  Now THE Torture begins on the Waiting.
 
This is step one,  the order is placed.
 
System Configuration:
Chassis: Cooler Master Cosmos S Edition
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Power Supply: 750W Corsair HX (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83GHz (1333MHz FSB) (12MB Cache)
Motherboard: nVidia 790i Ultra Core 2 Quad (nForce 790i Ultra SLI) (DDR3 Only)
System Memory: 4GB DDR3 1600MHz Corsair DHX (High-Performance)
Card Reader: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 1: 150GB Western Digital Raptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed)
Hard Drive 2: - No Thanks
Raid Option: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) (LightScribe Edition)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Wireless Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card(s): NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 1GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
TV Tuner: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: Air Cooled Stage 3 WindTunnel (Copper Heatpipe Heatsink & Additional Case Fans)
Internal Lighting: Blizzard Internal Lighting (Red Edition) (Cold Cathode Tubes)
Modifications: - No Thanks
CPU Boost: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability
Graphics Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Memory Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Windows Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows
OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Pre-Install Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks my keyboard comes with a mouse
External Storage: - No Thanks
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty
 
I will update as the process goes on.
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  Quote MightyImp Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 02 Oct 2008 at 11:03pm
Enjoy that system Zeluke, it looks like a great build.  What will you be using it for?
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 02 Oct 2008 at 11:45pm
I would have gotten windows premium, and the HAF case, since cosmos s touch sensor is a crapshoot and its lot more expensive

I also would have gone with OCZ 1333MHz.

let us know what your OC speed will be, so far highest stable we have seen has been 3.6GHz with liquid cooling.

overall no matter what nice build and sure did buy it from the right place.
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  Quote SunfighterLC Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 03 Oct 2008 at 12:01am
Youll really like the GTX 280, for all its bashing due to its value vs dollar ratio it still is the best single PCI slot card you can get minus the X2s of course.
 
I assume youll be adding a hard drive later or one from an older computer, because that 150Gb is gonna be gone faster then you know it. Games these days are approching the 20GB + ranges.
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4GB OCZ Reaper 1800Mhz
250-80-300GB VR HD
Logitech Z-2300 2.1 Speakers
Asus Xonar 7.1
Hanns-G HG 281D 28" HDMI Monitor
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  Quote david5182 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 03 Oct 2008 at 12:45am
I suggest you go for liquid cooling. Stage 3 cooling is very, very loud.
 
Also, I would switch to the OCZ RAM. While it does run slightly hotter than Corsair, it compensates by running faster.
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  Quote Jeremiah.L Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 03 Oct 2008 at 4:18am
No matter what you get, I'd suggest asking DSO to add on a Corsair DOMINATOR RAM cooling kit. I think it will only set you back at most $30, and looks really nice. Oh yeah, it help keeps your RAM cooler too.

Thanks for adding Zeluke. Welcome to DSO.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 03 Oct 2008 at 4:29am
Jl you mean fist ask them to change the ram to OCZ then request the fan for the ram which should be about $25

Edited by DST4ME - 03 Oct 2008 at 4:29am
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  Quote Zeluke Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 03 Oct 2008 at 7:38am
Thanks for the Info and will call them today witha  few tweaks.  Was debating on water cooled also.   As for games right now. Lord fo the rings MOM and warhammer.  But my old computer could not play anything that looked bad ass.
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  Quote Zeluke Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 03 Oct 2008 at 8:21am
Well I gave a call and I am for sure going to add liquid cooling to the cpu and ram cooling. not sure which ram is really the best without dropping another 500 bucks haha.
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  Quote Zeluke Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 03 Oct 2008 at 8:27am
Damn they glue it in place for the ram fan.    Might have to pass on that.  Anyways I will be getting liquid cool for the cpu to overclock.  And I am not overclocking anything else. NEW specs after I tlak to them.  Any ideas on RAID.  Would like to finalize my new house(DS RIG) today over the phone.
 
Hopefully my new build.
Copy of Specifications:
Chassis: Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Power Supply: 750W Corsair HX (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83GHz (1333MHz FSB) (12MB Cache)
Motherboard: nVidia 790i Ultra Core 2 Quad (nForce 790i Ultra SLI) (DDR3 Only)
System Memory: 4GB DDR3 1600MHz Corsair DHX (High-Performance)
Card Reader: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 1: 150GB Western Digital Raptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed)
Hard Drive 2: 150GB Western Digital Raptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed)
Raid Option: Setup hard drive 1 and hard drive 2 in a Raid 1 Mirror Configuration (Expert)
Hard Drive 3: 750GB Western Digital (7200 RPM) (16MB Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed)
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) (LightScribe Edition)
Optical Drive 2: DVD-ROM/CD-ROM (DVD Reader 16x / CD Reader 40x)
Wireless Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 1GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
TV Tuner: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: Liquid Chilled FrostBite CPU Only
Internal Lighting: Blizzard Internal Lighting (Red Edition) (Cold Cathode Tubes)
Modifications: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks my keyboard comes with a mouse
External Storage: - No Thanks
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty
 
I will be on all Day at work looking for tips for when I call them.
 


Edited by Zeluke - 03 Oct 2008 at 8:32am
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  Quote Zeluke Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 03 Oct 2008 at 12:18pm
thanks for all the help. I like the 150 for os and 300 for for games .  and I will update the ram info also.
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  Quote Zeluke Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 03 Oct 2008 at 12:22pm
Round 3 check it out.
Copy of Specifications:
Chassis: Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Power Supply: 750W Corsair HX (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 3.0GHz (1333MHz FSB) (12MB Cache)
Motherboard: nVidia 790i Ultra Core 2 Quad (nForce 790i Ultra SLI) (DDR3 Only)
System Memory: 8GB DDR3 1333MHz OCZ (High-Performance)
Card Reader: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 1: 150GB Western Digital Raptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed)
Hard Drive 2: 300GB Western Digital VelociRaptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (Extreme Speed)
Raid Option: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) (LightScribe Edition)
Optical Drive 2: DVD-ROM/CD-ROM (DVD Reader 16x / CD Reader 40x)
Wireless Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 1GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
TV Tuner: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: Air Cooled Stage 3 WindTunnel (Copper Heatpipe Heatsink & Additional Case Fans)
Internal Lighting: Blizzard Internal Lighting (Red Edition) (Cold Cathode Tubes)
Modifications: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my processor
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks my keyboard comes with a mouse
External Storage: - No Thanks
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty
 
Any more tips will help.  Been a long time since I had a machine built.  The input is very helpful.
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  Quote MightyImp Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 03 Oct 2008 at 2:16pm
Hi Zeluke, if you like the RPG's will you be getting Fallout 3 at the end of this month?  That system will make it look amazing. 
 
I downloaded the Qarl Texture pack for Oblivion last night and with my new rig it looks fantastic and that was using a 260.  If you like Oblivion get that texture pack and you will just want to run around the hills, it is very very purty.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 03 Oct 2008 at 4:03pm
Zeluke this is no good

this is what you want:

here you go Ticket# 190378 --- Price: $2539 (To see this build click here)

Copy of Specifications:
Chassis: Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Power Supply: 860W PC Power & Cooling (ESA Edition) (Dual SLI Compatible)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83GHz (1333MHz FSB) (12MB Cache)
Motherboard: nVidia 790i Ultra Core 2 Quad (nForce 790i Ultra SLI) (DDR3 Only)
System Memory: 4GB DDR3 1333MHz OCZ
Card Reader: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 1: 300GB Western Digital VelociRaptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (Extreme Speed)
Hard Drive 2: 500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Raid Option: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) (LightScribe Edition)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Wireless Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 896MB (Includes PhysX Technology)
TV Tuner: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: Air Cooled Stage 2 (Silent Artic Cooling Heat-sink Upgrade (Copper Heatpipes)
Internal Lighting: Blizzard Internal Lighting (Red Edition) (Cold Cathode Tubes)
Modifications: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my processor
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty

let me explain,

you don't need 2 raptors, get the veloci for os/apps/games.

haf does not need to be stage3, it comes stage 3 stock.

changed your psu to 860w so if down the road you want to add another 280 gtx you can.


8GB of ram? you won't use anything over 4GB unless you are doing some virtual servers or heavy duty 3D designing.


Edited by DST4ME - 03 Oct 2008 at 4:05pm
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  Quote Zeluke Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 03 Oct 2008 at 8:08pm
Thank you for all the help. This is my final order and it is placed and phase one is done.  Some of it is overkill by far, but that is what I prefer.  Thanks for everyones help...  for I made many calls and thanks to all the Sales people at DS for dealing with me.
 
Chassis: Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Power Supply: 860W PC Power & Cooling (ESA Edition) (Dual SLI Compatible)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 3.0GHz (1333MHz FSB) (12MB Cache)
Motherboard: nVidia 790i Ultra Core 2 Quad (nForce 790i Ultra SLI) (DDR3 Only)
System Memory: 8GB DDR3 1333MHz OCZ (High-Performance) Overkill I know :P
Card Reader: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 1: 150GB Western Digital Raptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed)Long story,  but I love the idea of two fast drives.
Hard Drive 2: 300GB Western Digital VelociRaptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (Extreme Speed)
Raid Option: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) (LightScribe Edition)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card(s): NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 1GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
TV Tuner: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: Air Cooled Stage 3 WindTunnel (Copper Heatpipe Heatsink & Additional Case Fans)After living in Colrado there is never enough Fans in a computer.  I feel bad for anyone in Arizona.
Internal Lighting: Blizzard Internal Lighting (Red Edition) (Cold Cathode Tubes)
Modifications: - No Thanks
CPU Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my processor
Graphics Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Memory Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Windows Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Pre-Install Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks my keyboard comes with a mouse
External Storage: - No Thanks
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Oct 2008 at 3:31pm
Zeluke 8GB for you is a totall waste, if you remove 4GB out of that pc you will never notice it. thats too much money to pay for something you will never use.

its like you getting a 1200w with that system.
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  Quote Zeluke Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Oct 2008 at 9:28am
I agree it is to much.  I just had todo it.  I never Said I was the smartest man on the planet. :)
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  Quote Iraq Now Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Oct 2008 at 10:01am
LOL I like you Zeluke. Welcome to the boards, and congrats on your system.

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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Oct 2008 at 3:20pm
Well its your system, but I just don't understand what is the point of having it, if you will never use it, your system will never use it.

if they shipped it to you with 4GB of ram you would never know the difference.

I mean if you want to throw away money at-least put it toward something you can use like a higher processor, at-least that way you would have used the speed.

I want you to know that I do recommend 8GB to certain people that will use it, I like 8GB myself, but only when its needed, otherwise money is better spent on CPU then 8GB of ram.

but its your PC so you do what you like, I just want to make sure you understand clearly what I'm saying.

Edited by DST4ME - 05 Oct 2008 at 3:20pm
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  Quote Zeluke Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Oct 2008 at 7:58pm
Okay you win.  They were out of stock of the ram.  So I got 4 gigs of ocz1600 which saved me enough to add liquid cooling on my cpu which I did really want for furture use.
 
That and even with my AC going Denver is still hot in the summer.  Not sure how people game in the lower states...Even with AC, damn it is hot as hell.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Oct 2008 at 8:18pm
Match your ram speed to your FSB unless you already know how to OC yourself.

I just want you to get the fastest PC you can with your money, no point on getting stuff that will make no difference, better spend that money on things you will use.
liquid cooling is a great idea and well worth the money and will get you faster speeds
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  Quote Zeluke Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Oct 2008 at 9:18pm

Problem is they had no more in stock.  But I will over clock it all in the future.  One Reason I got the cooling.  I just want to use the system with no overclocking for now.  But you are right. 

Overall now... I am happy and can not wait for the system to show up.
 
P.S. Thank again for all your help.  And I am glad I found this website and company.  Great help all the way.
 
Final stats I think.
 
Total Price with Instant Savings: $3,554.00



Specifications:
Chassis: Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Power Supply: 860W PC Power & Cooling (ESA Edition) (Dual SLI Compatible)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 3.0GHz (1333MHz FSB) (12MB Cache)
Motherboard: nVidia 790i Ultra Core 2 Quad (nForce 790i Ultra SLI) (DDR3 Only)
System Memory: 4GB DDR3 1600MHz OCZ Platinum Edition
Card Reader: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 1: 150GB Western Digital Raptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed)
Hard Drive 2: 300GB Western Digital VelociRaptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (Extreme Speed)
Raid Option: Setup hard drive 1 and hard drive 2 in a Raid 1 Mirror Configuration (Expert)
Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) (LightScribe Edition)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Wireless Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 1GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
TV Tuner: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: Liquid Chilled FrostBite CPU Only
Internal Lighting: Blizzard Internal Lighting (Red Edition) (Cold Cathode Tubes)
Modifications: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my processor
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks my keyboard comes with a mouse
External Storage: - No Thanks
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty


Edited by Zeluke - 06 Oct 2008 at 9:31pm
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Oct 2008 at 9:22pm
glad to have you join the customer group, I'm still waiting myself, the liquid cooling gives a nice cool and quiet PC now and when OCing, you can't get the numbers you get with LC, without it.

good luck boss
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  Quote DS-HAi Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Oct 2008 at 2:54am
looks like a very nice rig.FYI the HAF case dosent realy come stage 3 stock.i comes with a 10" fan mounted on the door that spins at around 500rpm.it vents more than anything.when you get the DSO stage 3 option, the fan is removed and you get x4 zalman fans installed. each running close to 1900rpm 4x faster than the stock one.if u are worried about sound you can request that the silicon pins and the noiseless connector be installed as well ,this will reduce each fan speed to 900rpm and noise, but will still be a big differance over the stock fan.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Oct 2008 at 6:14am
DS-HAi you are wrong about the HAF case not being at stage 3, stock it comes with 3 x 230mm fans and 1 x 140mm

the 230mm fans run at:

Front : 230x30mm red LED fan x 1,700 R.P.M, 19 dBA

Side: 230x30mm standard fan x 1,700rpm, 19dBA

Top: 230x30mm standard fan x 1, 700 R.P.M, 19dBA

now correct if I'm wrong but 1900rpm is not 4x faster than 1700rpm.

not to mention how loud 4 fans at 1900rpm would be, not to mention the fact that the cpu is liquid cooled

I suggest you read up on the case

welcome aboard

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  Quote DS-HAi Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Oct 2008 at 11:00pm
ok i might have been off on the the speed of the door fanBroken%20Heart.but i know that it dose not come stage 3 stock.at least not to DS standards .when you chose the stage 3 option for the haf case we add x4 zalmans to the case.that stock door fan is good  if you are not doing water cooing .it  doesn't  do any thing for the heat that the water cooling will be spreading.water cooling doesn't  cool down your cpu it just spreads out the heat better .like threw the tubing ,rad and were ever else the tubes are running.im at digital storm all day building these rigs and i know that that 1 fan sucks compared to 4 zalmans.
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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Oct 2008 at 11:12pm
I seen the air-flow boost by using four faster 120mm fans.
 
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  Quote DS-HAi Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 08 Oct 2008 at 9:40pm
dissipation heat dose not mean cooling down or lowering.
dis·si·pate: to break up and scatter or vanish
in this case it dose not vanish it just scatters away from the cpu.
the case fan and rad is not like a car radiator and fan.the air flow to radiator mass is mutch greater than a 120 fan and rad. you keep talking about the sound of the fans ..it is not that loud .if tht is such a big issue than there is the option of installing the inline resistors that lower the sound to the point that you dont hear any thing ;still producing more air flow than the single stock fan.
and for your comment "not all time do 4 fans blow more air then one "
you said it your self and i quote "Nobody doubts that 4 120mm fans blow more air"...
with all due repect . how can you be arguing  when you dont even have a DS rig your self? and being a member of this forum for more than a year now.?we havent even built you one.
 
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  Quote DS-HAi Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Oct 2008 at 1:20am
i reamember that rig it was an 850 .like i said if the sound of the fans are an issue the in line resistors can be installed wich they were in this case and the sound was significantly reduced, the only thing you could hear were the hdd and opticle drives after they were installed.there are ways of dealing with sound.
 
i cant argue what alex said .just spoke to him ,he did say that ,since then all haf cases that are upgraded to stage3 have the stock fan removed and have 4 zalmans installed. i guess management realized that the stock door fan just wasnt cutting it.
 
i take that back. your right. having a DS rig dosent have anything to do with knowing about OC, LC, Ram, HDD, Raid, GPU . unfortunately i dont have a ds rig. fortunately i am knowledgable enough to know how to build my own.
 
you were saying that i dont know how many fans are in the haf case?
were did you get; quote "it already can fit 7 fans, has 2 x 200mm and a few smaller ones".
the haf has-
Front: 230 x 30 mm red LED fan
Side: 230 x 30 mm standard fan
Top: 230 x 30 mm standard fan
Rear: 140 x 25 mm standard fan
 
im not sure but i think that is 4, if you are talking about how many it can fit
you could put 2 on the top,2 in the front ,4 on the door and one on the back
now i might be wrong ..dont take my word on it but 2+2+4+1=9. you can seek a second opinion on it if you wish.
 
as for your remark" I have been dealing with PCs since you were a glance in your father's eyes" ; i dont doubt it you seem like you know comps .like thay say ,you cant teach an old dog new tricks. i guess your just stuck in old ways.let me remind you we are not building dinosaurs we are building much more advanced systems with alot more air flow in mind.a little more air flow never hurt any system is all im saying.
 
just a little test for you if you ever get a chance to get a system built in a haf case using only the stock ;in your opinion stage 3 fans.open the door and put your hand in the middle .i bet you wont feel any noticable moving air. then compare it to a DS system built with the digital storm stage 3 fan option.
 
you seem.... like you know a lot about computers.im starting to think thats all you learned.looks like you missed first grade mathematics.
 
it dosent take a rocket scientist or a nobel prize winning math mathematician to know that 4 120 fans running at 1900 rpm each creates more air flow than 1 230 running at what ? 17k if you want to be exact. i think thats a givin.
 
every one is entitled to there own opinion .not every one is always right
 
 
i could go on for days .but unfortunately not every one has as much free time on there hands as you.im not going to argue with some one who is as close minded as you.especially on some thing like adding more fans for better air flow.
 
 
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Oct 2008 at 1:28am
I never said more fans don't mean more air.

and all that coming form some like you is a great complement, thank you.

one day you will learn to not assume.

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Now onto stage 5!   Should ship next WEEK!!!!!
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Broken%20Heart
 
Ah, the sound of "awkward".  U can cut the tention with a knife in this tread! lol
 
Great system built here.....I'm also in the agony of waiting for my system.  E.T.A is Tuesday.  What a GREAT day Tuesday will be.
 
You will love this build!!!
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This is more intense than christmass as a little kid...people think I am insane.....I can not wait to use that computer and actually buy all the top games out there. Now that I will be able to play them!!!!!!!
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don't forget teh pics, I can't wait anymore for the red lights
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