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    Posted: 13 May 2012 at 2:14pm
Budget:
~4000

Expectations:
Able to play the newest games at Max Res. with Great FPS and Ultra Settings

Usage:
Gaming / General Use / Some Photoshop / Movie Watching / Listening to Music

Special Needs:
Preferably Not Liquid Cooled (May not be possible with current configuration)

Saved Ticket #: 687791

Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 3820 3.6GHz (Turbo Mode up to 3.8GHz) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS Rampage IV Extreme X79 (Intel X79 Chipset) (Features USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s)
System Memory: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1200W Digital Storm Certified (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition Highly Recommended)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (120GB Solid State (By: Corsair) (Model: Force GT Series CSSD-F120GBGT-BK) (SATA 6Gbps)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (Model: Black Edition)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: Blu-Ray Player/DVD Writer (Play Blu-Ray and Burn DVDs)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 2GB (Includes PhysX)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: ASUS Xonar Essence STX Virtual 7.1 (PCI-Express Slot Based)
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Phanteks PH-TC14PE Extreme Performance
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (White)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: Noise Suppression Package Stage 2 (Optimized Airflow & Fan Speeds with Noise Dampening Material)
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock CPU 4.0GHz to 4.4GHz
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: Memory Fan Kit Only (Does not include memory overclocking service)
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 4 Year Limited Warranty

Questions:
1. Should I go with the i7 3930K processor instead?
2. Can the Dual GTX 680 be properly cooled with fans or do I need a Liquid Cooled    System?
3. Is the 1200W Power Supply overkill for this system?
4. Any general recommendations / advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
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  Quote Sirus Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 May 2012 at 2:59pm
If you're going to run SLI GTX680, I'd either LC, or have fans drilled and installed next to them in the case.  You'll find that option under chassis mods.  Also note you'll have to use Stage 6 LC if you LC it.  As far as the 3930, I think the Overclocked 3820 should serve you quite well.  The 1200W power supply isn't really overkill, but it does give you some buffer.  Also, you forgot your free T-shirt.
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  Quote Asangard Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 May 2012 at 4:56pm
Hi Elk and welcome to the forums.
 
1.  DS doesn't OC the 3820 CPU.  It isn't a K (unlocked) chip so if you want OC DS will recommend the i7 3930K CPU. 
2.  The HAF X is a really good case for air cooling and the GTX 680 fans push the hot air out the back so LCing isn't required.
3.  I would recommend the Corsair 1050HX.  It will handle this system and has a 7yr warranty.  If you looking for more power for adding stuff down the road I would recommend the Corsair 1200 Pro Gold.
4.  With the X79 platform DS will recommend the Corsair H100 CPU Liquid Cooler at least.
5.  The X79 platform is really designed for video/photo editing and rendering.   For gaming it isn't needed.  If you are not doing much of this then you could go with a Z77 system.
6.  I would recommend changing the Corsiar SSD for the Intel 520 SSD.  It is better and has a 5yr warranty.
7.  Most don't reccommend the noise suppression package with the HAF X case.  It has large fans that turn slowly so less noise. 
8.  I would go with stage 2 OC.
9.  I would drop the memory fan kit.  Again the HAF X case has great air flow. 
10.  The HAF X case has room at the top for a 2nd 200mm Fan.  You could have DS install the 2nd fan.
 
Here is a configuration for a Z77 System.  Config #687841 Cost $3915
Explanations below
 
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 3770K 3.50 GHz (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core) (Requires Z77 Motherboard)
Motherboard: ASUS P8Z77-V DELUXE (Intel Z77 Chipset) (Higher Overclocks and Unique Wi-Fi Features)
System Memory: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1050W Corsair Pro Silver 1050HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (180GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: 520 Series)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (Model: Black Edition)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 2GB (Includes PhysX)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: ASUS Xonar Essence STX Virtual 7.1 (PCI-Express Slot Based)
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 Extreme Performance
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires Pro/Deluxe/Sabertooth Motherboard)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Extra Large)
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty

 
I used the i7 3770 CPU it has hyperthreading wich Photoshop can use I believe.
I used  ASUS P8Z77-V DELUXE motherboard.  This board has build in WiFi.  If you don't need the WiFi you could go with the Z77 Sabertooth and save some $48. Plus the Sabertooth has a 5 yr warranty.
For Gaming you only need 8GB of RAM but since you use Photoshop I put in 16GB of RAM.
I put in the Intel 180GB 520 SSD.  The Intel 520 Drives are better than the Corsairs and have a 5 yr warrently.  Most reviews recommend at least a 180GB SSD. 
I used the Corsair 1050HX PSU.  It has plenty of power for this system and has a 7 yr warranty.
I used the Noctua NH-D14 air cooler.  I prefer the Noctua over the Phanteks as the connections to the motherboard are a little more robust.  Both are excellent coolers and you can't go wrong with either one.
I dropped both the noise suppression system and the memory fan kit for reasons listed above.
I did remember the free T-Shirt this time but forgot to add your white interal lighing system.
 
I hope this helps.
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  Quote John Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 May 2012 at 5:53pm
what is the resolution of ur monitor?
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  Quote Elk Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 May 2012 at 7:38pm
Asangard:

Thank you for your advice. It definitely helps and makes sense.

Thank you also for including a build that, in fact, saves me a bit of money and has everything that I need. I am planning on calling DS tomorrow to double-check the build and will hopefully be able to order within the week.
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  Quote Elk Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 May 2012 at 7:39pm
John:

The resolution of my monitor will be 1920 x 1080. 24" monitor.
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  Quote Asangard Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 May 2012 at 8:24pm
With your 1920 x 1080 resolution you could go with a single GTX 680.  This will handle almost all games on untra settings.  There are a few games that might drop below 60 FPS.  If you find that the single card isn't up to what you want you then could add a 2nd card.  Here is a link to a review of the GTX 680 it shows the performace of the card vs many different games and different resolutions:
 
I hope this helps
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