Gaming RigPost Date: 2008-12-08 |
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bullseyehk
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Topic: Gaming Rig Posted: 08 Dec 2008 at 6:20pm |
I'm a active gamer. Love fps and online mmo's. I havent been able to play any of these at or even near max resolutions in over 5 years with my current rig. I am wanting, rather my wife, is wanting me to buy a rig that will be able to play max resolutions and help to reduce lag for five years if possible. Here is what I've come up with. There are some questions at the end of this paste.
Chassis Model: Digital Storm 950Si Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i7 940 2.93GHz (Quad Core) Motherboard: ASUS P6T Deluxe (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports Dual SLI or CrossFire) System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1333MHz OCZ Power Supply: 1000W Corsair HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) Card Reader: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1TB Western Digital (7200 RPM) (16MB Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed) Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) (LightScribe Edition) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 1GB) (Includes PhysX Technology) Add-on Card: - No Thanks Sound Card: Creative Labs X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Champion (PCI-Express Slot Based) (Recommended) Extreme Cooling: Standard Factory Heat-sink and Fan Liquid Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a H20: Stage 3 Cooling System Selected Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Blue) Enhancements: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: Yes, Overclock memory frequency (Includes Memory Fan Kit Installed) Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows XP Home (Includes Service Pack 3) Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based) Virus Protection: - No Thanks Office: - No Thanks Benchmarking: - No Thanks Install/Test Game: - No Thanks LCD Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks External Storage: - No Thanks Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks Priority Build: - No Thanks Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty 1) is the 2nd video card vital to playing games such as farcry, fear, crysis bio shock, stalker.....anyhow fps at max resolutions. 2) is the standard stock fan going to be enough cooling for an oc processor. 3) Does oc processors shorten their life spans. 4) Is one dvd/cd drive enough. 5) wth is a raid and do i need one if the computer will be used mainly for gaming. 6) is the 1000w power supply enough. Thank you for your advice and help, Bullseyehk |
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DST4ME
DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758 |
Quote Reply Posted: 08 Dec 2008 at 6:25pm |
ticket number please
1. to play with high settings at 1680 x 1050 or higher resolutions, DS recommends you go with 2 GPUs. 2. stock fan is OK but don't expect to have the same results as LC or better cooler. 3. yes but very very little, lets just say you will get rid of it before it dies. 4. one DVD drive is plenty 5. raid is basically combining two drives to run as one, don't worry about it, it not high priority. 6. 1000w is more then enough. |
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Rad!caL
Groupie Joined: 16 Nov 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 292 |
Quote Reply Posted: 08 Dec 2008 at 10:21pm |
If you're concerned about longevity, I suggest you spend the extra cash and go with a couple 4870 X2 video cards. Each card has 2 GPU's on them and they will offer you better performance for a longer period of time They are already the fastest cards on the market and ATI will be updating their drivers soon which will boost the performance even more.
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bullseyehk
Groupie Joined: 08 Dec 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 212 |
Quote Reply Posted: 08 Dec 2008 at 10:22pm |
Thanks so much for your response. I do try to play everything on my monitors native resolution of 1920 x 1200.
I also ment to ask if 6 gigs was enough memory. Thanks |
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dave8624
Newbie Joined: 08 Dec 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 12 |
Quote Reply Posted: 08 Dec 2008 at 10:26pm |
I just purchased a rig from DS today, and after reading a lot of reviews, I decided to get 2 Velociraptor 150's in Raid 0. I read in a couple forums, that a slow HDD is a serious bottleneck to the i7. Also, I decided to downgrade to the i7 920, because the OC potential should be as good as the 940 for half the price. That is just my $0.02.
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DST4ME
DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758 |
Quote Reply Posted: 08 Dec 2008 at 10:42pm |
the difference of seek time between 150GB raptor and 150GB raptor in raid is:
0.6ms. the HDD at best makes such a small difference that it never comes into play when talking about cpu. @bullseyehk, I never got your ticket number Edited by DST4ME - 08 Dec 2008 at 10:46pm |
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bullseyehk
Groupie Joined: 08 Dec 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 212 |
Quote Reply Posted: 09 Dec 2008 at 11:16pm |
Sorry here it is now:
Ticket Number: 214881 |
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JamesAstro
Senior Member Joined: 28 Nov 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 624 |
Quote Reply Posted: 10 Dec 2008 at 12:45am |
I think the dual-boot with Vista/XP sounds like a good idea (since you want this to last 5 years). XP is getting a little long in the tooth. I doubt you need 12 GB of memory. Plus it's easy to add memory later if you need to. |
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Velox, Intel Core i9 11900K, ASUS ROG Maximus XIII Hero
32GB RAM, 1TB Samsung 980 Pro NVME RTX 4090, 38" Ultrawide LG-38GL950G Noctua NH-D15S cooler and NF-A14 fans, Corsair AX1600i PSU |
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DST4ME
DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758 |
Quote Reply Posted: 10 Dec 2008 at 4:15am |
if you want a system with every dollar put to good use then:
here you go Ticket# 215304 --- Price: $3546 (To see this build click here) Copy of Specifications: Chassis Model: Cooler Master HAF 932 Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core) Motherboard: ASUS P6T Deluxe (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports Dual SLI or CrossFire) System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1333MHz OCZ Power Supply: 1000W Corsair HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) Card Reader: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 300GB Western Digital VelociRaptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (Extreme Speed) Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA) Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) (LightScribe Edition) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260+ 896MB (216 Streams) (Includes PhysX Technology) Add-on Card: - No Thanks Sound Card: Creative Labs X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Champion (PCI-Express Slot Based) (Recommended) Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 3: High-Performance Liquid Chilled FrostBite System For CPU Liquid Color:UV Green: Glowing Non-conductive High-Performance Fluid (Requires H20: Stage 3 & UV Lighting) Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (UV) (Creates Glowing Effect For H20: Stage 3 UV Fluid) Enhancements: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts) Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based) Virus Protection: - No Thanks Office: - No Thanks Benchmarking: - No Thanks Install/Test Game: - No Thanks LCD Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks External Storage: - No Thanks Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks Priority Build: - No Thanks Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty |
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Rad!caL
Groupie Joined: 16 Nov 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 292 |
Quote Reply Posted: 11 Dec 2008 at 1:15am |
I suggest you go with the ASUS Xonar D2X soundcard instead of the X-Fi. Better sound quality and less driver issues.
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bullseyehk
Groupie Joined: 08 Dec 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 212 |
Quote Reply Posted: 12 Dec 2008 at 5:53pm |
hmm should i go ahead and look at buying this rig now or wait till january and see the specs on the new graphics card from nvidia.
also should i wait and see what Windows Live does. Also what in the set up above what are the 2 drives for and how do they work together. saw one as the os and one as storage. wife wants me to get a computer but only when i feel comfortable enough to buy it. figure ds is where its gonna come from. she wants a laptop to and i said i can get her one from ds as well..she said noway after i told her the price..for whatever reason she thinks laptops only cost $400 or less.../sigh |
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skyR
Newbie Digital Storm Apprentice Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2220 |
Quote Reply Posted: 12 Dec 2008 at 5:56pm |
Windows Live is a group of services by Microsoft so I don't know what you mean by waiting to see what it does..?
Two harddrives are for data security. You install the operating system and your software on one and use the second drive to store your pictures, video, documents, and other stuff. So if you ever needed to re-install the operating system, you wouldn't lose all your data. |
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DST4ME
DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758 |
Quote Reply Posted: 12 Dec 2008 at 5:56pm |
we can change your setup to run 2 drives if you like but we do that with veloci raptors, cause veloci is faster, we would use that for os/apps/games and the 500GB for storage of personal/media files.
but a veloci raptor will set you back $250. like you said lets wait till JAN, and see what is going on then laptop for $400? if you only check or email, surf for a short time, and want a small screen, sure why not. |
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skyR
Newbie Digital Storm Apprentice Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2220 |
Quote Reply Posted: 12 Dec 2008 at 5:59pm |
Get a netbook if you are just going to use it for internet browsing. Laptops are for users that need it for software on the go.
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bullseyehk
Groupie Joined: 08 Dec 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 212 |
Quote Reply Posted: 14 Dec 2008 at 12:22am |
looks like january for sure. and may get what i wanted with some minor adjustments...and all it going to cost me is a set of living room furniture.
is there any real diffrence in performance between the 1066 ram and the 1333 ram. or for that matter the nvidia 893 and the 1k cards? |
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bullseyehk
Groupie Joined: 08 Dec 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 212 |
Quote Reply Posted: 14 Dec 2008 at 12:23am |
i loose at the internet...cant figure out how to edit my prior post....that was supposed to be 1gig
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acs262
Senior Member Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 150 |
Quote Reply Posted: 14 Dec 2008 at 12:36am |
Hey mate!! Im also waiting until Jan. For me its very hard to wait but its worth it considering there might be new stuff coming out and the prices might also drop!!! have a great day to you all!!!
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bullseyehk
Groupie Joined: 08 Dec 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 212 |
Quote Reply Posted: 21 Dec 2008 at 8:45pm |
out of curiosity are the 4870's worth buying 2 for high end gaming(1920 x 1200 + res on crysis, bioshock stalker and such) is it even possible to put two of those big things into a system.
is there enough of a diffrence in cards to go from 2 x 260's to 2 x 280's. bullseyehk |
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DST4ME
DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758 |
Quote Reply Posted: 22 Dec 2008 at 12:39am |
for 1920 x 1200 one 4870x2 is enough to do very well.
yes you can put 2 x 4870x2 in one system, but you will notice a difference at 2560 x 1600 or higher. no 2 x 260+ is not much different from 2 x 280. |
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bullseyehk
Groupie Joined: 08 Dec 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 212 |
Quote Reply Posted: 15 Jan 2009 at 3:19pm |
Ticket #229979
Lowered the processor and added in 2 of the 95's.. Got a 30" monitor with native 1920 x 1200 now so no more forcing my old monitor to play that high...Question is once again is that to many video cards for the native resolution...also can i push a monitor past the native resolution to get better graphics on it. Added in the sound card you were talking about DST4ME. Do onboards sound as good as this one? Sounds in games mean a great deal to me and I tend to play scary games sometimes and love the music/effects from sound to add to the enviroment. IF i remember right didn't ya'll say there wasnt much diffrence in processor speed / oc ability between the lower end i7 and the middle? ME Thanks again for your help Bullseyehk |
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DST4ME
DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758 |
Quote Reply Posted: 15 Jan 2009 at 4:05pm |
for 20 bucks more you can have better pc:
here you go Ticket# 229999 --- Price: $3961 (To see this build click here) Copy of Specifications: Chassis Model: Cooler Master HAF 932 Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core) Motherboard: EVGA X58 3X SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports Triple SLI or CrossFire) System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz OCZ Platinum Edition (High-Performance) Power Supply: 1000W Corsair HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) Card Reader: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 300GB Western Digital VelociRaptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (Extreme Speed) Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA) Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) (LightScribe Edition) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: 2x SLI Quad (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 1.792GB) (Includes PhysX Technology) Add-on Card: - No Thanks Sound Card: Asus Xonar D2X (PCI-Express Slot Based) (Recommended) Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 3: High-Performance Liquid Chilled FrostBite System For CPU Liquid Color:UV Green: High Glowing Non-conductive Fluid (Requires H20: Stage 3 & UV Lighting) Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Red) Enhancements: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts) Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based) Virus Protection: - No Thanks Office: - No Thanks Benchmarking: - No Thanks Install/Test Game: - No Thanks LCD Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks External Storage: - No Thanks Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks Priority Build: - No Thanks Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty the xonar sound card is better then the on board. I kept the 2 x 295 but for your resolution you only need 1 x 295 the second is overkill. |
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bullseyehk
Groupie Joined: 08 Dec 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 212 |
Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jan 2009 at 9:53am |
so just confirming the OCZ memory is better then the Corsair..and the EVGA MB is better then the Asus?
If this is right i'm gonna go with the configuration you suggested to my wife. |
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bullseyehk
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Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jan 2009 at 9:58am |
ticket # 230476
This what your suggesting overall? |
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DST4ME
DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758 |
Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jan 2009 at 3:25pm |
looks great
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Sarah
Newbie Hardcore Gamer Joined: 07 Jun 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 879 |
Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jan 2009 at 3:28pm |
Hey bullseyehk if you want to discuss your order or have any questions or when your ready to place this order, so we can get the ball rolling, give me a call, you can reach me at my personal extension listed in my signature. Would love to get the ball rolling for you on a new gaming rig man. I love to game myself, so trust me, im right there with you on wanting to game to the extreme.
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bullseyehk
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Quote Reply Posted: 17 Jan 2009 at 9:13pm |
just making sure..for 1920 x 1200 for max graphics one 295 is enough?
wife wanted to make sure of this lol |
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 17 Jan 2009 at 9:27pm |
yes
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bullseyehk
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Quote Reply Posted: 25 Jan 2009 at 1:29am |
wife ordered new furniture today so this is getting closer..she did have one concern though in regards to this new monitor..
she does not want me to have to upgrade for about 5 years if possible so she was asking how one card was gonna run max settings on a 30" computer at 1920 x 1200. I know this was answered above but she has to be reassured and she said i'm not going to be the one to make her feel better about it lol. is there a major diffrence is performance between the 1600 and the 1866 ram chips? Thanks again Edited by bullseyehk - 25 Jan 2009 at 1:31am |
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JamesAstro
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Quote Reply Posted: 25 Jan 2009 at 1:58am |
Keep in mind that 30' monitors don't display 1920 x 1200 very well. They only look good at their native pixel resolution, typically 2560 x 1600. If you plan on playing at 1920 x 1200, then save yourself some money and get a 23" - 25" monitor that has a native pixel resolution of 1920 x 1200. Also, don't worry about ram speed very much. I seriously doubt you'll notice the difference between 1600 and 1866 ram chips. Save your money for something else. |
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Velox, Intel Core i9 11900K, ASUS ROG Maximus XIII Hero
32GB RAM, 1TB Samsung 980 Pro NVME RTX 4090, 38" Ultrawide LG-38GL950G Noctua NH-D15S cooler and NF-A14 fans, Corsair AX1600i PSU |
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 25 Jan 2009 at 2:05am |
with a 920 you want to go no higher then 1600MHz ram anyways.
as JA mentioned above a 30 inch will be running 2560 x 1600, which actually would require 3 GPUs, but since the 295 is a dual card, 2 of them will run 1920 x 1200 and 2560 x 1600 just fine. but if you are going to be at 1920 x 1200, one 295 GTX is all you need, I gave you 2 x 295 GTX because in your first post you mentioned wanting to run a resolution of 2560 x 1600 Edited by DST4ME - 25 Jan 2009 at 2:06am |
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DeathBringer666
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Quote Reply Posted: 25 Jan 2009 at 3:29am |
2500x1600 does not require 3 gpu's one will work fine unless you are gaming then you want 2 high end cards like the gtx260 gtx280 gtx285 or 1 gtx295. The only game that wwill need more is crysis which isnt worth spending an extra 3-500 dollar to play on ultra high settings. Nobody knows how long tillupgrades will be needed most pc games are based off of console games (xbox/ps3) so until the next gen of consoles come out there will be no need to upgrade if u are a gamer. Proffesional user can use upgrades much more depending on your proffesion and how graphic intensive it is. Anyways any Pc you buy today will be outdated in 3 years guaenteed thats the name of the game. PC gaming is expensve but well worth it to me.
Edited by DeathBringer666 - 25 Jan 2009 at 3:35am |
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 25 Jan 2009 at 3:42am |
To play at high settings you do need 3 gpus, or 2 x 295 gtx, DS also recommends 3 gpus for 2560 x 1600 or above.
now you can get 2 x 285 and oc them or 1 x 295 and oc it but they won't compare to the performance of 3 x 285 or 2 x 295 at 2560 x 1600, 3 x 285 sli pulls about 110fps where 1 x 285 pulls like 40fps, oced about 70fps Edited by DST4ME - 25 Jan 2009 at 3:44am |
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DeathBringer666
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Quote Reply Posted: 25 Jan 2009 at 3:48am |
What game are u talkiin about? http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-gtx-280,1953-16.html One gtx 260 can get you 40fps in some games alone. Do u even play games? 2x295 or 3 gtx285 is for bragging rights for benchmarkers, anything higher than 60fps you will never notice.
Edited by DeathBringer666 - 25 Jan 2009 at 3:51am |
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 25 Jan 2009 at 3:51am |
call of duty
L4D hello XP Edited by DST4ME - 25 Jan 2009 at 3:51am |
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DeathBringer666
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Quote Reply Posted: 25 Jan 2009 at 3:52am |
Looks like sli handles all of those games just fine to me?
Edited by DeathBringer666 - 25 Jan 2009 at 4:08am |
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