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  Quote MikeMaravani Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Topic: Graphics Card Question
    Posted: 02 Mar 2009 at 1:19pm

ATI does the crossfire but what does Nvidia do?

 
Saw the review in PC Gamer. Great job.ErmmErmmErmmErmmErmm 


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  Quote Samael Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 02 Mar 2009 at 1:28pm
SLI (Scalable Link Interface) thats what you get when you do 2 Nvidia cards.
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  Quote MikeMaravani Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 02 Mar 2009 at 11:32pm

What do you recommend for Graphics Cards?

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  Quote MikeMaravani Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 02 Mar 2009 at 11:39pm
Oh and Alex, I dont know if you have seen this but here is the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqVM1sq7aeM&feature=related
Its one of your customers, doing a total review. Its kind of boring but its refreshing to see someone that likes his new rig.
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  Quote Samael Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 02 Mar 2009 at 11:51pm
Right now you are good with either depending on what is your budget and what kind of performance you are looking for.
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  Quote MikeMaravani Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 03 Mar 2009 at 1:23pm
I was going for the 4870. but its going to be a totally custom build. This is what I have so far:
 
Processor - I want to overclock, and have a 4 core processor (prefer a Q9). No i7
Graphics Card - I did like Nvidia, but the Radon 4870 HD has caught my eye.
Motherboard - EVGA eForce 790i Ultra SLI or MSI P45 Platinum
Ram - 6Gb (but dont know who to go with)
Case - Antec 1200, CoolerMaster HAF, or the Raven
Power Supply - 750w or 850w (silent edition)
OS - Vista 64 bit
Hard Drive - 2 Western Digital 500Gb in a raid 0 mirror configuration & External HD for games
Optical Drive - Dont Care as long as its quite
Sound Card - None
Cooling - Zaleman CNPS9300 AT with upgraded case fans, and custom 120mm fan on the side. Led Lights.

I dont like the liquid cooling. Too expensive and its a big hassle.
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  Quote Samael Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 03 Mar 2009 at 1:58pm
instead of doing a crossfire of the 4870, just get a 4870X2
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  Quote Dsnewb210 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 03 Mar 2009 at 4:46pm

If you want some longevity and overall better cpu performance it would be smart to go with an I7 920.. Its actually cheaper then most of the quad cores..

Article about the price of I7 vs quad
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  Quote BillDempsey Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 03 Mar 2009 at 6:05pm
I agree with DSnewb. I personally wouldn't buy an old Core 2 Quad chip now that Intel has moved forward. The socket 775 is dead and on its way out. The next 4+ years belong to the socket 1366. Where Intel goes, the industry follows. Sure, you can still buy 775 stuff now, but for how long? The ability to make your computer last for 5+ years with a CPU upgrade in a few years just disappears if you marry yourself to a 775 system at this point. Besides, the 920 overclocks insanely well. You get a LOT more for your money. Ermm
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  Quote MikeMaravani Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Mar 2009 at 1:29pm
Well $$ is in factor here. I dont have enough for the 4870x2 and the I7 is still fairly new.
 
But if I get the I7 then what motherboard should i get? (I might get a 2nd Graphics card)
 
and will everything else fall into place?
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  Quote Dsnewb210 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Mar 2009 at 1:36pm

I'd go with an evga x58, very reasonable board priced very well for the amount of features you have acess to.

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  Quote Samael Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Mar 2009 at 3:39pm
I was just thinking that you wanted to go with 2 x 4870, thats why I suggested the 4870X2 because a single 4870X2 would be a lot less hassle than 2 x 4870s
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  Quote <8) slunK parade Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Mar 2009 at 3:51pm
go with the Gigabyte UD5 board :)
its solid as a rock, or you can get the one with only two PCI-express slots if u want to save money

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128362
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  Quote MikeMaravani Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Mar 2009 at 1:19pm

EVGA 132-BL-E758-A1 LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail 

299.99

  • CPU Type: Core i7
  • FSB: QPI 6.4GT/S
  • South Bridge: Intel ICH10R
  • Number of Memory Slots: 6×240pin
  • Memory Standard: DDR3 1600/1333
  • Maximum Memory Supported: 12GB
  • Channel Supported: Triple Channel
  • PCI Express 2.0 x16: 1 x PCIe x16, 1 x PCIe x8/x16, 1 x PCIe x8
  • Model #: 132-BL-E758-A1
  • Item #: N82E16813188039
  • Return Policy: Limited Non-Refundable 30-Day Return Policy

EVGA 132-BL-E758-TR LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail  $269.99

  • CPU Type: Core i7
  • FSB: QPI 6.4GT/S
  • South Bridge: Intel ICH10R
  • Number of Memory Slots: 6×240pin
  • Memory Standard: DDR3 1600/1333
  • Maximum Memory Supported: 12GB
  • Channel Supported: Triple Channel
  • PCI Express 2.0 x16: 1 x PCIe x16, 1 x PCIe x8/x16, 1 x PCIe x8
  • Model #: 132-BL-E758-TR
  • Item #: N82E16813188046
  • Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
I am looking at these two, which one though?
Edit: (Needed to see side by side) Whats the difference!

Edited by MikeMaravani - 05 Mar 2009 at 1:20pm
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  Quote Kristie Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Mar 2009 at 1:30pm
The TR only has a 2 year warranty vs. the Lifetime warranty that the A1 has :)

Newegg comments ftw ^_^
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  Quote BillDempsey Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Mar 2009 at 1:42pm
Lifetime warranty for 30 bucks? Wow, nice deal!  Which board is DS using now?

Hey, on a side issue - has anyone heard when 4GB sticks are coming for 1366 systems? At some point down the road, I want to swap out my 12GB of sticks to get 24GB of RAM. I'm sure I'll need to flash the BIOS, too. HD video editing eats RAM like crazy - freakin' huge files...
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Mar 2009 at 2:49pm
biil home premium can only see 16GB total.
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  Quote BillDempsey Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Mar 2009 at 6:47pm
I'm using ultimate 64 bit.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Mar 2009 at 6:56pm
bill never mind you are good to go unfortunately the mobo can only handle 24GB where the ultimate does 128GB

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  Quote BillDempsey Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Mar 2009 at 7:31pm
Yeah, I just don't understand Microsoft putting in an arbitrary limit like that when it is a 64 bit operating system. Then again, I don't understand a LOT of things Microsoft does - like creating a decent OS and then crippling it by various amounts so that they can sell 6 different versions of it.

It's funny that we think 128 GB is a lot of memory now, but it wasn't really that long ago we were using PCs that only supported 640 KB of RAM on the motherboard. Hell, my first computer only had 16K of RAM, which I hacked to hold 128KB eventually. Now most PCs come with 3 or 4 GB. Heck, my iPhone has almost 1000 times more storage than my first hard drive had. Actually, there are expensive server and workstation motherboards that come close to the memory limitations of Ultimate 64 already.  I'm guessing it will be about 4 years before we see consumer desktop machines that are expandable to 128 GB of RAM. By then, we'll probably be seeing memristor based technology starting to appear from manufacturers which will blow past any capacity we're seeing now.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 05 Mar 2009 at 7:38pm
lol ya just a few years ago we were adding 128MB and 256MB of ram for an upgrade
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Back in 1979, I was running Teletype with a model 19, chadless tape, and a 6 ft modem rack.  I was using it over ham radio and having a ball.  The modem had a mino O Scope to tweak mark and space.



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  Quote MikeMaravani Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Mar 2009 at 1:06pm
I still have my '98 computer still works great. Its freaking heavy though (94lbs). I remember paying for 3K on it because it was top of the line back then. Now 10 years later its a peice of crap.
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I still have my first PCs also, I was a kid in the heydey of the personal computer revolution. I started out with the Commodore Pet 16 a business computer my father bought for a small fortune at the time for his business. I started playing with it and after my third or fourth oops I broke something incident my father bought me my own computer the Vic-20 which he got for a deal because he spent alot with Commodore in those days, mostly direct order as there were no real computer stores near us.

Then I went through the gamut from the Apple II and TRS-80, the TI-994a.

Once the Amiga came out I was an avid Commodore fanatic again, and then when it died, I joind the PC crowd as the mac simply did not have the software support I was looking for...

Ah... the days of old when 110 baud was considered pretty darn good.... a modem that could send text as fast as a good typist... will wonders never cease.

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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Mar 2009 at 5:47pm
lol ok I can't top all of that but I do have p3 with 786MB of ram
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