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Post Date: 2013-11-23

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    Posted: 23 Nov 2013 at 2:19pm
Budget:
[Around seven-thousand]

Expectations:
[Battlefield 4 60-100 FPS Ultra, at up to 3 monitors.]

Usage:
[Long term gaming, possible video editing, and decent storage of movies and pictures.]

Special Needs:
[Not sure.]

Saved Ticket #:
[http://www.digitalstormonline.com/configcheck.asp?id=895103]

Specifications:
[Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Hailstorm II Edition
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 4770K 3.50 GHz (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS MAXIMUS VI EXTREME (Intel Z87 Chipset) (The Ultimate Power Platform)
System Memory: 16GB DDR3 1866MHz Corsair Dominator Platinum DHX (Extreme-Performance)
Power Supply: 1050W Corsair Pro Silver 1050HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Optical Drive: ASUS Blu-Ray Player/DVD Writer (Play Blu-Ray and Burn DVDs) (Model: BC-12B1ST)
Storage Set 1: 1x (512GB Solid State (By: Samsung) (Model: 840 Pro Series)
Storage Set 2: 1x (2TB Western Digital (7200 RPM) (Model: Black Edition) (SATA 6Gbps)
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Graphics Card(s): 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB (EVGA Superclocked ACX Cooler Edition)
Sound Card: Creative Labs Recon3D Fatal1ty Champion 5.1 (Includes Front I/O) (PCI-Express Slot Based)
Extreme Cooling: H20: HydroLux Level 3: Digital Storm Exotic Custom Cooling System (2x Video Cards + CPU + Chipset)
H20 Tube Color:White Tubing with High-Performance Fluid (UV Lighting Reactive) <b></b>
Chassis Fans: Upgrade All Fans to Corsair Airflow Performance Edition (Up to 6 Fans) <b></b>
Internal Lighting: Digital Storm HydroLux RGB LED Lighting System (Requires HydroLux Control Board & Software)
Airflow Control: Digital Storm HydroLux Thermal Management Control Board & Software
Chassis Mods: Hailstorm II: Bottom Baseplate Mod (Cleaner Wiring Look & DS Logo Branding)
Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires Pro/Deluxe/Sabertooth Motherboard)
Boost Graphics Card(s): Yes, Overclock the video card(s) as much as possible with complete stability
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Professional (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows CD)
Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Large)
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Part Replacement)]

Okay so here she is, I've got plenty of questions. A couple I couldn't figure out on my own, a few others I tried to get in contact with some of the people at the company with no real response so here we go.

Motherboard: ASUS MAXIMUS VI EXTREME:
First off I wanted to know if this was actually compatible with the 4.8 ghz OC, because it doesn't specify if it is or not. If it isn't I'll downgrade to the proper Motherboard.

Power Supply: 1050W Corsair Pro Silver 1050HX:
Just need to make sure that this is compatible with the OCs, SCs of the processor and two GPUs, normally I outfit this with the 1200W Corsair, but this time I didn't update it, so that's a thing that I could change.

Storage:
Okay so I'm not used to this set up, the whole one SSD and a secondary drive for files and other stuff... Should I be going for two SSDs, is 512 enough room for a decent collection of games and for the future? I know I can always go out and buy another drive and update it later, but I want a decent set up to start off...need thoughts and opinions on this one.

Graphics Card(s): 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB (EVGA Superclocked ACX Cooler Edition)
I know two of this beastly card is not needed, I just want to be ready for any crazy additions to the gaming world in the immediate future, but my question here is. Do I need to spend the extra money on the ACX cooler edition? Is the card actually faster than the stock 780Ti or are the fans the only real addition? Seeing as how I'll be having my GPUs water cooled I wasn't sure about this.

Sound Card: Creative Labs Recon3D Fatal1ty Champion 5.1 (Includes Front I/O) (PCI-Express Slot Based)
7.1 is the latest and greatest, but I had heard that some of the titanium cards were wonky with windows 8.1 That and I'd like it if I could keep all 3.5mm jacks on the back of the card. I just want to know if getting a 7.1 card is going to boost the sound quality that much. Seeing as how most headsets now-a-days are digital surround sound, and I don't have any plans to use a surround sound system in the future.

Chassis Mods: Hailstorm II: Bottom Baseplate Mod (Cleaner Wiring Look & DS Logo Branding)
It's cleaner wiring I got that, but does it come with sleeved cables? If possible I'd like to get white sleeved cables on the inside just for things to have a cleaner look. Probably will be extra if not included, which I don't mind just wanted to clear this up.
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  Quote Nav Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Nov 2013 at 12:38pm
Motherboard: The ASUS VI Extreme is one of the best overclocking boards out there, getting to 4.8GHz all depends on the CPU itself. 4.7GHz is more common.

Power Supply: The 1050W should be more than enough for 2x GPUs and the CPU overclocked. If you plan on adding a third card, then going with the 1200w would be necessary.

Storage: 512 GB SSD is plenty to start off with for an OS + some games. With games getting to 30+GB installs, you can install around 10 games and still have some room left over. As you stated, you can always add another driver later when needed.

Graphics Cards: If you're going with water cooling, you'll have to pick the reference design cards as the water blocks are made for them. You cannot water cool the ACX edition of the GTX 780Ti's

Sound: Going with a 7.1 vs 5.1 won't increase sound quality to the point that its noticeable. If you're not going with a surround setup, the Recon3D is plenty good.

Chassis Mods: The baseplate does not include sleeved cables but some of the cables on the PSU are sleeved black.
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Nov 2013 at 2:27pm
Just to add to great advice, that mobo is what is needed for tri-sli cards with Haswell cpu, but if only sli then the Expert might do it for you.

What is the resolution of your potential tri monitor setup? If it's 2560x1440 x3 then you might consider a tri- sli setup for ultra gaming. More money for sure but tri monitor with ultra settings demands a lot of horsepower.

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  Quote fstcvc Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Nov 2013 at 7:40pm
The Haswell is difficult to OC @ 4.5GHz or higher. I had mine OC'd to 4.5 but was having some issues when gaming so I down clocked it to 4.4 and haven't had any problems since. Very few of them would even reach a 4.8 OC (probably less than 5% of the chips would even be stable at this point). It has more to do with the capability of the CPU than the mobo. Looks like Nav & bp22 answered all the rest of your questions...
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i7 4770K @ 4.5GHz
Asus Maximus VI Extreme
16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum
3xSLI EVGA SuperClocked GTX TITAN
Samsung 840Pro SSD 256GB+512GB
HydroLux+XSPC CPU/MoBo/GPU Liquid Cooling
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  Quote danjw1 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 24 Nov 2013 at 7:44pm
Originally posted by RaveFlyz


Motherboard: ASUS MAXIMUS VI EXTREME:
First off I wanted to know if this was actually compatible with the 4.8 ghz OC, because it doesn't specify if it is or not. If it isn't I'll downgrade to the proper Motherboard.


CPU overclocking is often referred to as the silicon lottery, because it depends more on the CPU you get then anything else. You may want to consider the Asus Maximus VI Formula. It would support 2-Way SLI and give you a very good onboard audio solution that should be just as good as the sound card you have listed. DS doesn't stock these but you would save enough between moving to the board and not needing a third party audio solution to more then cover the cost of a special order item.

Originally posted by RaveFlyz


Power Supply: 1050W Corsair Pro Silver 1050HX:
Just need to make sure that this is compatible with the OCs, SCs of the processor and two GPUs, normally I outfit this with the 1200W Corsair, but this time I didn't update it, so that's a thing that I could change.


1050W should be fine for two video cards and an overclocked CPU.

Originally posted by RaveFlyz


Storage:
Okay so I'm not used to this set up, the whole one SSD and a secondary drive for files and other stuff... Should I be going for two SSDs, is 512 enough room for a decent collection of games and for the future? I know I can always go out and buy another drive and update it later, but I want a decent set up to start off...need thoughts and opinions on this one.


If you want to keep lots of old stuff installed, then maybe. But if not you should be fine for some time.

Originally posted by RaveFlyz



Graphics Card(s): 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB (EVGA Superclocked ACX Cooler Edition)
I know two of this beastly card is not needed, I just want to be ready for any crazy additions to the gaming world in the immediate future, but my question here is. Do I need to spend the extra money on the ACX cooler edition? Is the card actually faster than the stock 780Ti or are the fans the only real addition? Seeing as how I'll be having my GPUs water cooled I wasn't sure about this.


Go for the stock cooler card with liquid cooling custom cooler cards can have trouble with mounting waterblocks.

Originally posted by RaveFlyz


Sound Card: Creative Labs Recon3D Fatal1ty Champion 5.1 (Includes Front I/O) (PCI-Express Slot Based)
7.1 is the latest and greatest, but I had heard that some of the titanium cards were wonky with windows 8.1 That and I'd like it if I could keep all 3.5mm jacks on the back of the card. I just want to know if getting a 7.1 card is going to boost the sound quality that much. Seeing as how most headsets now-a-days are digital surround sound, and I don't have any plans to use a surround sound system in the future.



See what I said about this above in the motherboard question. On the Formula, they isolated the audio section of the board for higher quality sound.
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  Quote RaveFlyz Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Nov 2013 at 6:02am
Thanks a lot for all the input, I really don't see myself upgrading to three cards any time soon. I'll probably just be gaming at the normal 1080p as I don't really see a need for me to jump to 1440p at this time.

I'm not really learned in the OCing world, so a lot of this information has been useful to me. Even if I only get 4.4Ghz out of my processor I think that'll be more than enough for what I need.

I've taken a look at the other motherboards but honestly I think I'll just stick with the Maximus VI, maybe I don't plan to upgrade to 3+ cards right at this moment but I'd like the option for the future. This will be the base build for all future upgrades that I choose to make.

With all this information I dropped the price of the build to around 6700, allowing me some breathing room as well as the planned extra order of white sleeved cabling.

Is there anything else that I'm missing? I'm not sure, but I'd like to think two GTX 780 Tis would be good enough for triple monitor gaming at 1080p...if not I could just wait on it. I can't see myself dishing out more money for a third at this time. As for the comments on the Maximus Formula VI, it looks like a great board. Actually probably one of my favorite looking boards. But is the sound comparable or as good as a 5.1 dedicated sound card?

It's all coming together and I'm super excited haha, can't wait to give Digital Storm a call and make the final purchase, but I want to make sure everything fits into place.
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  Quote danjw1 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Nov 2013 at 7:36am
Originally posted by RaveFlyz

Is there anything else that I'm missing? I'm not sure, but I'd like to think two GTX 780 Tis would be good enough for triple monitor gaming at 1080p...if not I could just wait on it. I can't see myself dishing out more money for a third at this time. As for the comments on the Maximus Formula VI, it looks like a great board. Actually probably one of my favorite looking boards. But is the sound comparable or as good as a 5.1 dedicated sound card?


I am not an audiophile, and haven't listened to either boards audio. The Formula has a higher Signal to Noise Ratio (120dB vs 102dB), which means it has a more accurate sound. They each have their on technologies, I can't speak to which would result in the best audio experience.

In my experience, most people who talk about adding more graphics cards end up just replacing older ones with new ones.

In the end I expect you will love whatever you end up doing.
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  Quote RaveFlyz Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Nov 2013 at 12:40pm
Originally posted by danjw1



I am not an audiophile, and haven't listened to either boards audio. The Formula has a higher Signal to Noise Ratio (120dB vs 102dB), which means it has a more accurate sound. They each have their on technologies, I can't speak to which would result in the best audio experience.

In my experience, most people who talk about adding more graphics cards end up just replacing older ones with new ones.

In the end I expect you will love whatever you end up doing.

Well then that just brings up the question if I'd ever have a need for 3 cards...if that is the case then I'd stick with the Extreme but if I'm just gonna swap out my cards for two diff ones later on it would make sense to go with the Formula motherboard...hrm. Well Seeing as how Digital storm is open now I guess I could always give them a call and discuss it with them. Along with some other things.

Love the input though, really helps me out.
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