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    Posted: 14 Aug 2010 at 1:08am
Hello everyone, I'm planning on buying a new computer from here soon thanks to a reference from a friend. I have the setup that I want, I'm just unsure about which chassis to choose. Here is what I have:

http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=432078
http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=432077


I like the assassin case because all the plugins are on top and supposedly it's quiet with a great cooling system already. I like the CM Elite 430 because it's smaller and $300 cheaper. Is the assassin case really worth the $300 more? The $300 isn't too big of a deal but if it's not worth it then I'll go with the cheaper option of course. I'm also considering the HAF 922, looks like it's not too much bigger than the 430 and it's only about $50 more.


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the assassin is extremely overpriced your bet bet for a case would be a haf 932 or if you want filters the 942, they are some of the best cases dso has to offer and they are a heck of a lot cheaper then the assassin. in comparative cooling they are very close to the assassin but the cost of the assassin just isn't justified.

in terms of mid case the 922 would be your best bet just a few c higher then the 932 in a smaller package

whast your resolution, use and budget so we can configure a proper system for you? how ever you did do a pretty good job on your own. if it is in the budget add a noctua dual 120 mm cpu cooler for a better oc and temps that gpu is good for the 1680 x resolutions you can do higher but you will have to turn down settings.


Edited by Raif - 14 Aug 2010 at 1:21am
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  Quote !ender_ Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Aug 2010 at 1:18am
whoa, no cpu coolers?
lets back up a little bit, what exactly do you want to do with this comptuer and what is your budget range?
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  Quote Sikamikanico Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Aug 2010 at 2:18am
Thanks for the quick response

My budget is $2000-$2500. I want to be able to play games such as Starcraft 2 and Team Fortress 2 without a hint of bad performance on the highest settings. I also want a computer that will be upgradeable in the future. I'm using a 32 inch hdtv as my monitor, so I suppose 1920 x 1080 is my resolution.

I just noticed the links I posted didn't have my set up, thought it did. I'll repost those in a sec


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  Quote !ender_ Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Aug 2010 at 2:24am
start here
 
upgrades to conisder from here would be a SSD for your windows and applications, not really a boost to gaming
 
the 922 case could save you a little money, but youre under budget by a lot
could go up to a 942 if you like it, just as good as the 932 just looks a little different, believe its a bit bigger as well
all 3 of these cases come with a front red LED, believe it can be switched off in all 3 though i am not sure
 
you may consider getting a sound card, since your under budget, if youre into audio at all this can really improve the quality and power of your audio
 
oh and no, to answer your earlier question, the assassin is not worth 300 more, at all.
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  Quote Sikamikanico Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Aug 2010 at 2:30am
I updated my original post with what I thought I posted in the first place.

Thanks ender, what you suggested was what I had pretty much. If the assassin case really isn't worth it I'm stuck between all the CM cases now. The scout, sniper, and 922 all look good. Is there any difference between them other than looks?

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there is in air cooling ability, but its pretty minor, if you care, its pretty much haf932 hafx haf922 sniper scout
 
but again, small differences
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  Quote Sikamikanico Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Aug 2010 at 2:45am
I noticed you went with the corsair psu rather than the digital storm one, what's the difference?
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not too much, basically the certified PSU uses multiple 12v rails and is modular, both of this make the psu take small performance hits over the corsair, justifying the price difference (in my opinion)
its not an overly important choice, but if its under budget i find it worth the extra $30
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  Quote Sikamikanico Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Aug 2010 at 3:28pm
Alright I have one more question before I pull the trigger on this, gonna go with the HAF 922 also. For my second hard drive, would it be better to go with two 500GB 16MB cache HDDs or one 1TB 64MB cache HDD?
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  Quote Dragoonseal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Aug 2010 at 3:34pm
Uh.. well vastly better to use a 40GB Intel SSD for OS/apps if possible, but I'm not even sure what your budget or anything looks like.

You mentioned a $2000-2500 budget, but you also said you're using a TV as a monitor, which just doesn't work out well they look terrible. You should divert some of the funds to get a good priced 1920x1080 or 1920x1200 monitor.
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  Quote Raif Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Aug 2010 at 7:34pm
yeah use ender's build and use the rest for the monitor since as dragoon said the visual quality will suffer big time...


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GUIDE TO HELP YOU CHOOSE A MONITOR


PANEL TYPE:

Twisted nematic (TN): panels are cheaper and can be tweaked to your likeing , but the panels are not as good in terms of longevity. you can tell it is tn by unequal height and vertical viewing angles.The pixel response time on modern TN panels is sufficiently fast to avoid the shadow-trail and ghosting artifacts of earlier production. The fast response time has been emphasised in advertising TN displays, although in most cases this number does not reflect performance across the entire range of possible color transitions.More recent use of RTC (Response Time Compensation / Overdrive) technologies has allowed manufacturers to significantly reduce grey-to-grey (G2G) transitions, without significantly improving the ISO response time. Response times are now quoted in G2G figures, with 4ms and 2ms now being commonplace for TN-based models. The good response time and low cost has led to the dominance of TN in the consumer market.

TN displays suffer from limited viewing angles, especially in the vertical direction. Colors will shift when viewed off-perpendicular. In the vertical direction, colors will shift so much that they will invert past a certain angle.

Also, most TN panels represent colors using only 6 bits per RGB color, or 18 bit in total, and are unable to display the 16.7 million color shades (24-bit truecolor) that are available from graphics cards. Instead, these panels display interpolated 24-bit color using a dithering method that combines adjacent pixels to simulate the desired shade. They can also use a form of temporal dithering called Frame Rate Control (FRC), which cycles between different shades with each new frame to simulate an intermediate shade. Such 18 bit panels with dithering are sometimes advertised as having "16.2 million colors". These color simulation methods are noticeable to many people and highly bothersome to some. FRC tends to be most noticeable in darker tones, while dithering appears to make the individual pixels of the LCD visible. Overall, color reproduction and linearity on TN panels is poor. Shortcomings in display color gamut (often referred to as a percentage of the NTSC 1953 color gamut) are also due to backlighting technology. It is not uncommon for displays with CCFL (Cold Cathode Fluorescent Lamps)-based lighting to range from 10% to 26% of the NTSC color gamut, whereas other kind of displays, utilizing RGB LED backlights, may extend past 100% of the NTSC color gamut... a difference quite perceivable by the human eye.

In-plane switching (IPS): are more expensive, they last longer, they have identical height and vertical viewing angles over 170 degrees (typically 178 degrees) and may also be tweaked. In-plane switching was developed by Hitachi Ltd. in 1996 to improve on the poor viewing angle and the poor color reproduction of TN panels at that time. Its name comes from the main difference from TN panels, that the crystal molecules move parallel to the panel plane instead of perpendicular to it. This change reduces the amount of light scattering in the matrix, which gives IPS its characteristic wide viewing angles and good color reproduction. Initial iterations of IPS technology were plagued with slow response time and a low contrast ratio but later evolutions have made marked improvements to these shortcomings. Because of its wide viewing angle and accurate color reproduction (with almost no off-angle color shift), IPS is widely employed in high-end monitors aimed at professional graphic artists, although with the recent fall in price it has been seen in the mainstream market and gamers as well.

THINGS YOU SHOULD IGNORE:

contrast ratio: there are many ways of getting the number and the manufacturer always puts up the higher one

dynamic contrast ratio: same

response time: there are different methods like g2g, b2b, w2w, non accelerated and accelerated they will always post the best number and may not tell you what they measured and if it is accelerated or not.

PAY ATTENTION TO:

viewing angles: the higher the better quality the panel is , also identical is best

luminocity: some monitors are bright and some are dim

finish: some are matte some are glossy. matte  is a thicker finish and is terrible with glare and if light hits it will look like a giant smudge. glossy is thinner clearer finish if you have a light source behind you it could create problems making the image appear white. brighter monitors can also help off set the potential problems this is more so with matte over glossy.

colors: the more the better 16.7 m colors is standard

cord length: depending on if it is on the floor it may be a issue you may need a longer cord or a extension. most come with 6 ft cables

hdcp: this is important if you want to watch hd movies, with out it a blue ray player may not work. hdcp is hollywoods form of anti-piracy on blue rays, your player sends a code to the display device if the display device does not reply then the blue ray will not play.

pixel size per inch: the more pixels per inch the better

pixel patch: the smaller the better

www.newegg.com, www.tigerdirect.com, www.circuitcity.com, www.bestbuy.com have great selections. they don't carry all models of each brand for the ones they do not carry use the manufacturer website. the sites are in order that they came to mind not in order or price, they are usually equal or close some shopping around may be required for the best price.

Manufacturers:
list is in order of quality

Dell
HP
Gateway
BenQ
Samsung
LG
Hannsg
Asus
Acer

ADDITIONAL NOTES:

some manufacturers may have eluded me and some i have omitted like ezio and apple since their products cost so much more with out any increase in performance to warrant the extra money

for lower budgets on monitor start at the bottom work your way up, they tend to have better deals for the money spent then the guys at the top.

for people with larger budgets or who want the best start at the top work your way down.
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