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    Posted: 04 Jan 2009 at 8:38am
Well, i just joined the DS crew do to this drastic question.

My budget is 200 bucks!
I need a new video card being a fool i bought a Sapphire HD4850, 1gig/256bit, It was an amazing card while it worked i used to be able to play Crysis with all Very high, 8xAA!!! <-- WOW, seriously i could and i had no lag! It was a good card but, the cooling solution for it sucked. It ran at 100c on full load.

Edit: Im not going to replace it by sending it back for a new one, i dont even think i can, as its been discontinued, but i dont wanna deal with any hassle or anything plus i got the chance to get a totally new and different one.
And also, i plan to be running 1440x900 Resolution.


My mobo is an  ASUS M2R32-MVP 580X CrossFire, At first i used 2x 2600xt's then last September i upgraded to the HD4850, Now, ill probably end up getting the same just a different brand.

I buy alot from newegg, so these are the ones i been looking at.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161245
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161244

Ive thought about just grabbing 2 cheaper 4850's and Crossfiring them since my board is crossfire supported, but dont wanna deal with the crossfire hassle i just want to get a new card and have it play all the games out to date with no problems.

Hope for positive responses, and some good help.

Thanks for reading, John.

Edited by JFuller092 - 04 Jan 2009 at 9:26am
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Originally posted by harleyman

You need to set the fan speed in your CCCenter manually to 100% and it will cool like its air conditioned....


Ive got CCC open but i dont see anything about fan speeds.
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lol, bit of a problem, as their are no fan settings like i said before :P

But, when i click "Test Custom Clocks" It gets louder, but when its done it stops :/
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Originally posted by harleyman

What version of CCC are you running John???


No clue, nor how to find out, let me check for updates. I got it off the disk that came with it.

Wait no it says on Disc: 12-093 Xp/Vista only (8.051)


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Ok, ive downloaded, uninstalled, rebooted and am now installing.

Half Way, But also i dont believe changing fan speeds now will help the card i think its already burnt a few things up over the last 4 months. :(

Any idea of a new card to get??


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Well, ive installed the new Drivers, and this is what i get.
I assure you it has a fan on it, im not an idiot. I just dont update drivers, if the card works its fine by me.
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Originally posted by JFuller092

Well, ive installed the new Drivers, and this is what i get.
I assure you it has a fan on it, im not an idiot.






don't get so defensive , HM is only tryin to help man .
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Holy good god!!!

I downloaded a thing called Rivatuner and it allowed me to change my video card fan speed...

I went from 25% to 100% and my machine sounds like a shopvac!!!!

don't get so defensive , HM is only tryin to help man .

Im not, i wasnt trying to act mean or anything just saying i know it has a fan on it lol :P


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nice. whats ur load temps on your cards now with that fan turned up ???
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ditto
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Well, for future reference, ATI has stated that the gpu in the 4800 series can handle up to 125* C operation before sl*gging. Also, with the current CCC, the 4850 fan can be manually adjusted. During some games, it will get hot unless you pop the fan speed to 65% at least. Assassin's Creed and Red Alert 3 have brought my temps up in the 90s when I had the fan running at 45%, so I now pop the speed up before playing those games. 45% is the limit of fairly quiet fan operation. At 50%, it's audible over other fans, and it's fairly loud at 65%, but I'd rather keep temps below 80* C, in spite of what ATI says is safe operation temps.
Personally, I'm waiting for some cooler running cards in the future. Can't complain about the performance and graphics appearance at all however.
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No... i still come here... its in my favorites actually :)
My idle temperate went from 71c and now 52c with fan all the way up :P
Rivatuner helped alot and i still have no clue which card to get.
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Originally posted by widdlecat

Well, for future reference, ATI has stated that the gpu in the 4800 series can handle up to 125* C operation before sl*gging. Also, with the current CCC, the 4850 fan can be manually adjusted. During some games, it will get hot unless you pop the fan speed to 65% at least. Assassin's Creed and Red Alert 3 have brought my temps up in the 90s when I had the fan running at 45%, so I now pop the speed up before playing those games. 45% is the limit of fairly quiet fan operation. At 50%, it's audible over other fans, and it's fairly loud at 65%, but I'd rather keep temps below 80* C, in spite of what ATI says is safe operation temps.
Personally, I'm waiting for some cooler running cards in the future. Can't complain about the performance and graphics appearance at all however.


Ya the card is an HD4850 which is now discontinued and the CCC couldnt change my fan speeds but Rivatuner did and now my temp is down 20c, i could care less about noise so i just got it bumped to 100.

I wanna get one of the HIS cards because there IceQ 4+ cooling units are awesome my friends HIS card stays at 40C on idle and 52C on full load.
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Originally posted by harleyman

Well anyway...I wold like to know if he has been helped and his card is still good.....LOL


Well, you gave me a short summary on advice for a new card, updated my drivers for me and thats about it as i downloaded rivatuner before you mentioned it :P
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That's crazy about the CCC not having fan control for you. You should always be updating drivers though. There are always bug fixes and improvements. Even if it "seems" fine to you, there are things that you do not see. It's just always good to keep your GPU drivers updated. I check mine once a month.
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