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    Posted: 08 May 2019 at 9:09am
Budget: No Budget

Expectations: Awesome looking PC for animation/digital editing and gaming, probable dual monitor setup

Usage: Fortnite, varying adobe products, etc.

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Configuration Code: 2380945
Total Price with Instant Savings: $2,550.00
Chassis Model: Digital Storm Lumos
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7-9700K (4.9 GHz Turbo) (8-Core) 3.6 GHz
Motherboard: MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PLUS (Intel Z390 Chipset) (Up to 2x PCI-E Devices) (No SLI Support)
System Memory: 16GB DDR4 3000MHz Digital Storm Performance Series
Power Supply: 600W Digital Storm Performance Series (Supports up to an NVIDIA RTX 2070 GPU)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Optical Drive: - No Thanks
Storage Set 1: 1x SSD (500GB Digital Storm Performance Series)
Storage Set 2: 1x Storage (2TB Seagate / Toshiba / Hitachi)
Storage Set 3: - No Thanks
RAID Config: - No Thanks
RAID Card: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce RTX 2070 8GB (VR Ready)
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
HPC Processor: - No Thanks
Extreme Cooling: H20: HydroLux LITE: Integrated Cooling System (CPU Only)
HydroLux Tubing Style: Flexible Tubing (Requires HydroLux Liquid Cooling System)
HydroLux Fluid Color: Red Fluid + Clear Tubing (Requires HydroLux Liquid Cooling System)
Cable Management: Premium Cable Management (Strategically Routed & Organized for Airflow)
Chassis Fans: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Remote Controlled Advanced LED Lighting System (Multiple RGB Color Modes)
Airflow Control: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: Option Not Available
Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock CPU - Up to 4.7GHz on All CPU Cores
Boost Graphics Card(s): Yes, Overclock the video card(s) as much as possible with complete stability
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: USB Drive - Windows 10 Installation (Format and Clean Install)
Virus Protection: Windows Defender Antivirus (Built-in to Windows 10)
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
Branded Gear: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 20-25 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Part Replacement

Was just wondering how this configuration looks/any critiques to it or places where I can save money :) Thank you!
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  Quote thedemoncowboy Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 08 May 2019 at 10:38am
For your build I would suggest the 280 mm or even the 240 MM radiator, try to upgrade to the 2080... if you could swing it
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  Quote thedemoncowboy Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 08 May 2019 at 10:42am
Code:     2381034
URL:     https://www.digitalstorm.com/configurator.asp?id=2381034

That’s what I would do instead
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  Quote Cretae Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 May 2019 at 12:34am
What monitor resolution are you using, and how flexible is your budget? Both of these builds need some adjustments. How committed are you to the HydroLux for "awesome looking"? It's really not advisable at this price point.

Without dedicated cooling, it's not worth the stress on a GPU for the very slight performance bump you can get.
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  Quote xVoltzzz Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 May 2019 at 8:02am
I'm rocking a 144hz 1080p monitor to go with the setup. I want to try and stay around the price I have right now (minor fluctuations don't matter). I'm pretty dedicated to the HydroLux cooling as it's very aesthetically pleasing for me. Also, I'd like to keep the 2070 as that's probably the highest I'll go for a graphics card. Thanks for the help!
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  Quote HockeyBuck Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 May 2019 at 12:19pm
As Cretae was warning, I would also suggest that you do not need DS to overclock your RTX 2070 unless you want to go full HydroLux Pro and include the GPU in the loop. There are over clocking tools from MSI or EVGA that you yourself can easily use to OC a little if you really want to try that.

I have a very recent Lumos build using the excellent 8 core i7-9700K at Stage 1 OC and HydroLux Lite (Swiftech) clear tubing and red fluid as well...you will like it.   They don’t backlight the reservoir as in images now, but if you ask I’m sure they could place a led or ccrt behind.    
I have the Corsair Vengeance RAM and Corsair LL fans with RGB lighting for great aesthetics controlled by Corsair iCue software.

Your work is mostly CPU and multi core centric, so the GPU is less important and a RTX 2070 is fine for what you do.   It will game great for you at 1080P / 144 ....

I would strongly suggest you choose a 750w or 850w PSU instead.    If you had to do a future GPU upgrade, you could be stuck also changing that minimal PSU. An inexpensive adjustment to your build.

One useful tech advance here that your MSI motherboard has onboard....and you are not making use of in your build....is your two M.2 NVME drive slots that can use the speedier PCIE bus.    Consider making that change if you can, as M.2 NVME drives are about 5 times faster than a SATA drive and take up less space.   You could also add that yourself later on, but do take advantage of M.2 NVME at some point.



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  Quote xVoltzzz Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 May 2019 at 9:53pm
Appreciate all the help so far!
Sorry I'm super new to this whole custom building PC world so I might not have things optimized at all. Also, your last paragraph slightly went over my head. For the SSD, it'd be better to use the 1x SSD M.2 (256GB ADATA XPG SX6000) (NVM Express) than the 1x SSD (500GB Digital Storm Performance Series)? And would it be this same SSD for both storage sets?

What I'm getting here is that I shouldn't overclock my GPU but my CPU should be fine? Also, definitely going to upgrade to the 750w PSU, thanks for all the tips on that!
Thanks again!
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  Quote HockeyBuck Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 May 2019 at 2:11am
Yes....Lol.....You got the main points just fine!

    Yes you are absolutely fine Overclocking the processor...

    No we don't usually recommend Overclocking the GPU without
       including the GPU in the HydroLux coolant loop. There
       is less to be gained in Overclocking a GPU on air alone.
    
    Yes go with a way faster M.2 NVME SSD for your boot Drive1.
       That basic DS SSD is not an M.2 NVME drive.

    Glad you will upgrade to the 750W PSU...An inexpensive
       change that helps future proof your build for a few yrs
       into the future when you might decide to upgrade your
       GPU. Makes that very common future upgrade really easy!

Yup your motherboard has 2 nice speedy M.2 NVME SSD drive slots for you to utilize. A normal SSD or M.2 SSD would be a SATA 6 gbps speed drive... These new M.2 NVME SSD drives are roughly 5 times faster because they use the same data bus or pathway as the PCIE slots that graphics cards are plugged into on the motherboard.. They are also much smaller in physical size.

Samsung are currently the best M.2 NVME drives. A 256 GB Adata M.2 NVME drive would also work just fine...A 500 GB M.2 NVME drive would be a better size you are less likely to outgrow very soon.   

You would be fine with your original Drive 2 choice of a normal 2 TB SATA hard drive for storage.

...If you can afford to select a 2nd M.2 NVME SSD Storage drive2, that would also be faster to use than are SATA drives, but that can get kinda pricey as a drive 2 choice compared with normal SATA 6gbps SSD's or SATA hard drives.   Filling the 2nd M.2 NVME slot is also something that you could add later on yourself with some coaching from DS. It just plugs in to a slot on the board and is secured flat with one hold down screw.

Keep in mind that the standard DS case fans you have selected wont have lights as pictured.   Move up to Corsair HD Series or LL Series fans if you wish to get the lighting customization of RGB case fans of better quality. I have the LL Corsairs in the Luimos and they are pretty awesome.

You are doing great... learning a few things and tweaking the final Lumos build like a pro.   Going to be an excellent and long lasting Lumos rig for you!   I have ordered and maintained 4 custom built DS rigs since 2011 and they all run great! No worries!   


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  Quote Cretae Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 May 2019 at 5:16am
The "adjustments" I referred to in my post were exactly what HockeyBuck has suggested. The build has to center around the GPU for the best gaming experience for you, and the RTX 2070 is the absolute correct choice for you!

I understand your desire for that awesome look. It does mean you can't get all the very best options and stay in budget, but there are no "bad" parts here. About all you can upgrade at the best price is the power supply, which is $38 and almost a "must", and your choice of Samsung 970 NVMe drive. The 250GB is just $38 more, the 500GB is $150. Whatever you can do, but highly recommended as HB says.

You could consider the smaller one for almost complete dedication to your OS and all your productivity and maintenance apps, while you keep your games library elsewhere. Best recommendation for that would be a 1TB (or more) SATA SSD you buy online when you have the funds/need for it. They are quite expensive here, but not so bad online. One of the very easiest user installs, it won't give you much trouble when you feel the need for it.

The CPU overclock is a definite yes.

Hope it helps.
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  Quote thedemoncowboy Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 May 2019 at 9:50am
Originally posted by xVoltzzz

Appreciate all the help so far!
Sorry I'm super new to this whole custom building PC world so I might not have things optimized at all. Also, your last paragraph slightly went over my head. For the SSD, it'd be better to use the 1x SSD M.2 (256GB ADATA XPG SX6000) (NVM Express) than the 1x SSD (500GB Digital Storm Performance Series)? And would it be this same SSD for both storage sets?

What I'm getting here is that I shouldn't overclock my GPU but my CPU should be fine? Also, definitely going to upgrade to the 750w PSU, thanks for all the tips on that!
Thanks again!


So valid points here, hopefully this helps

The NVM write speed is exceptionally better than DS’s m.2 as I believe it’s a SATA drive. It’d be better if you want quick loading OS to even go a 250 GB OR 500 GB m.2 970 evo. Then for secondary do a digital Storm SSD which would still be plenty quick to get games from etc.

As the build states, the HydroLux cooler is sick, and nice. However, you’re forgoing crucial performance parts for liquid cooling. For example, that $1000 could be spent towards the i9, or even a 2080 graphics card, or even 32 GB MEMORY, which is overkill.

I’m confident that the AIO (all-in-one) 240 or 280 could handle their stage one upgrade in performance.

600 isn’t future proof in my opinion 750 at the least , 850 if you can afford it.

Also you could look into the lynx which is customize-able now ...
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  Quote xVoltzzz Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 May 2019 at 12:22pm
Appreciate all the help everyone! You just made customizing this 10000 times easier for me :)
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  Quote HockeyBuck Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 May 2019 at 2:58pm
You are very welcome!   This is why it is also fun for us forum members to help new folks like yourself to select the best possible component choices for your budget. DS will put the rig together with a decade of experience & skill, and then stress test hard to flesh out any problems before shipping it to you.

Keep us posted on the final build and how it all goes for you!
Lumos is a cool looking work of tech art, so make sure you have a good spot up on a desktop or something to show it off!
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