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    Posted: 09 Oct 2013 at 7:10pm
Budget:
Max $7000 USD

Expectations:
Since I haven't put any money in yet I don't have any.

Usage:
High end gaming rig/recording/streaming/60+ FPS triple monitor gameplay.

Specifications:

Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master Storm Stryker <b></b>
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 4770K 3.50 GHz (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS MAXIMUS VI EXTREME (Intel Z87 Chipset) (The Ultimate Power Platform)
System Memory: 16GB DDR3 1866MHz Corsair Dominator Platinum DHX (Extreme-Performance)
Power Supply: 1200W Corsair Pro Platinum Series with Corsair Link (CP-9020008-NA) (Quad SLI Compatible) <b></b>
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Optical Drive: ASUS Blu-Ray Player/DVD Writer (Play Blu-Ray and Burn DVDs) (Model: BC-12B1ST)
Storage Set 1: 1x (512GB Solid State (By: Samsung) (Model: 840 Pro Series) <b></b>
Storage Set 2: 1x (3TB Seagate (7200 RPM) (SATA 6Gbps) <b></b>
Storage Set 3: - No Thanks
RAID Config: RAID 0: Striping: Maximum Performance, No Data Fault Tolerance Protection <b></b>
RAID Card: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Graphics Card(s): 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 3GB (EVGA Superclocked ACX Cooler Edition) <b></b>
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
HPC Processor: - No Thanks
Extreme Cooling: H20: HydroLux Level 3: Digital Storm Exotic Custom Cooling System (2x Video Cards + CPU + Chipset) <b></b>
H20 Tube Color:White Tubing with High-Performance Fluid (UV Lighting Reactive) <b></b>
Chassis Fans: Upgrade All Fans to Corsair Airflow 120mm Performance Edition (Up to 6 Fans) <b></b>
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Blue) <b></b>
Airflow Control: Digital Storm HydroLux Thermal Management Control Board & Software
Chassis Mods: Hailstorm II: Bottom Baseplate Mod (Cleaner Wiring Look & DS Logo Branding)
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires Pro/Deluxe/Sabertooth Motherboard)
Boost Graphics Card(s): Yes, Overclock the video card(s) as much as possible with complete stability <b></b>
Boost Memory: Memory Fan Kit Only (Does not include memory overclocking service) <b></b>
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 8 (64-Bit Edition) <b></b>
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Part Replacement)

So here it is, the rig that I've been looking forward to, after much research on each individual piece and part of this rig I've come to the conclusion that this is exactly what I've been looking for. There are a few questions I have though, maybe this isn't the right place or maybe it is.

Cooler Master Storm Stryker vs. Corsair's 900Delta: I really want to stick with the white and blue coloration that I've been looking into, so the Stryker is the obvious way to go. That being said I wonder if the 900D gives a significant (200USD) advantage over the Stryker. I know the 900D has 15 fan mounts, and I've seen some of the rigs here where the fan spread is quite impressive. However, since I am using liquid cooling for everything (2x GPU, CPU, Chipset) I'd like to think I don't need the extra fans and what seems like superior airflow from the 900D case. I just want a second opinion here, if I maximized the airflow for positive pressure in the Stryker case is there any reason to upgrade to the 900D? Expandability, significant decreases in temperatures for OCed CPU/GPUs. Noise is not an issue for me as long as loud means cold I couldn't care less if it's a jet engine.

Motherboard: I ended up caving the extra 74USD for the Maximus VI Extreme, it's directed more at gamers, has it's own cooling/clocking screen and software. The only question I have here is if it is going to conflict with Digital Storm's own software for cooling and the lighting system, as well as the clocks that they work on the machine before they ship. My second choice was the Deluxe/Dual, but it appeared that they both shared most of the features that I wanted, except for perhaps thunderbolt, which I didn't see myself using anyway.

GPUs: As much as I love to see those titans in SLI I can't see myself spending that much money when I can get two 780s in dual SLI for a significant price decrease, and nearly the same amount of power. Though I noticed that the waterblocks that are used for SLI in the Digital storm machines are small, are they still as effective as say. Full coverage EK waterblocks, I dabbled with the thought of asking the DS team to order some of the "see through" SLI and full coverage blocks for this build just to make is more aesthetically pleasing. Though I guess looks aren't everything I don't really want to mess with the insides of this thing for a long time after purchase.

PSU: Obligatory Platinum grade Corsair. 1200W gives me some upgrade options for the future, while allowing a stable GPU and CPU overclock.

RAM: I went for the high end of this side merely for the possible addition of the LEDs for the Corsair Dominator Platinum, but I have heard that gaming only takes full advantage of 1600Mhz RAM, so should I downgrade here, or leave as is?

SSD: 512 Samsung was a borrowed idea from a builder, though originally I had planned for two 240G or 256G SSDs not running in Raid 0. One for the OS, and the other for games. That's something I'd like to get people's opinion on since it really doesn't change the price at all to change from one large drive to two smaller drives if they both add up to the same amount of space.

HDD: Mainly for data, originally I had an idea for 2TB or 1TB drives running in Raid 1 just for some assurance that if one drive crapped out on me I wouldn't loose all the data. This would mainly be for pictures/misc things that didn't need to be booted fast. The extra space is just a nice thing to have in my mind.

Extras: As far as extras go, I like the blue and white color scheme and I hope it will turn out great. White borders on the Corsair fans, and hopefully white sleeves on the wiring would look gorgeous with the blue LED lighting. White tubing is nice too and I think will bring it all together. Again this is where I took a trip on over to the EK liquid cooling website and did some looking for waterblocks and what not. Though, since the liquid cooling isn't any particular color I figured I could skip out on it for now, even if the see through blocks would make a nice addition to the build.

That's all I really had to say/share about this build. I probably won't be purchasing it for a couple of months. Seeing as how this build brought the amount of money that I'd be shoving out close to seven thousand dollars. I figured I'd give it a bit more thought, really cement down what I wanted and ask the community what they thought.
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Welcome to DS, RaveFlyz!!

Running triple monitors myself, after a lot of research, I'd recommend tri-SLI to keep up the high frame rates. 2 might just get you by while 3 will make sure you clear the 60fps mark on 99% of games.

Case-wise, the 900D (Hailstorm II) has enough room for dual radiators whereas you'll probably only be able to fit a single radiator in the Storm Stryker. Air flow isn't as relevant as space to mount hardware is.

Motherboards are all close to what you will get out of them. The Maximus is the only one to support x3/x4 SLI while all the rest are only x2 SLI. The Gryphon & Sabertooth are also worthy choices if only going x2 SLI.

1200W PSU should be more than enough...

The RAM is a personal choice - 1600 is sufficient but I went with the Platinum for the looks over the performance.

SSD/HDD choice is subjective. Get what you need and can afford. Samsung & WD are the choice of the majority of us here on the forums for both speed & reliability.

Extras are whatever your wallet can afford. DS can add whatever you want (for a price!).

I know I probably just put you even more over budget but just want to make sure you get what you're expecting (even though no expectation was given).

Good Luck!
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i7 4770K @ 4.5GHz
Asus Maximus VI Extreme
16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum
3xSLI EVGA SuperClocked GTX TITAN
Samsung 840Pro SSD 256GB+512GB
HydroLux+XSPC CPU/MoBo/GPU Liquid Cooling
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Oh, and don't forget the FREE t-shirt!!
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  Quote RaveFlyz Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Oct 2013 at 5:38am
Yeah seeing as how I'll need to be saving a bit of money for the monitors and extra peripherals for this rig I doubt I'll have the money for a third 780. Though it's a nice thought I know some gaming rigs that hit 60+ just fine on 24-27 inch monitors with two 780s. I appreciate the input though, as well as the warm welcome.
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  Quote danjw1 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Oct 2013 at 11:09am
Originally posted by RaveFlyz


Cooler Master Storm Stryker vs. Corsair's 900Delta: I really want to stick with the white and blue coloration that I've been looking into, so the Stryker is the obvious way to go. That being said I wonder if the 900D gives a significant (200USD) advantage over the Stryker. I know the 900D has 15 fan mounts, and I've seen some of the rigs here where the fan spread is quite impressive. However, since I am using liquid cooling for everything (2x GPU, CPU, Chipset) I'd like to think I don't need the extra fans and what seems like superior airflow from the 900D case. I just want a second opinion here, if I maximized the airflow for positive pressure in the Stryker case is there any reason to upgrade to the 900D? Expandability, significant decreases in temperatures for OCed CPU/GPUs. Noise is not an issue for me as long as loud means cold I couldn't care less if it's a jet engine.


I would suggest the 900D for the radiator mounting capabilities. I don't know where radiators would mount in the Stryker. You could ask DS about this.

Originally posted by RaveFlyz


Motherboard: I ended up caving the extra 74USD for the Maximus VI Extreme, it's directed more at gamers, has it's own cooling/clocking screen and software. The only question I have here is if it is going to conflict with Digital Storm's own software for cooling and the lighting system, as well as the clocks that they work on the machine before they ship. My second choice was the Deluxe/Dual, but it appeared that they both shared most of the features that I wanted, except for perhaps thunderbolt, which I didn't see myself using anyway.


The Asus Maximus VI extreme has 8 PWM fan headers on 3 different signals, from what is listed in the manual. PWM uses a control signal to control fan speed. It also has 3 thermal sensors available. I would suggest you have thermal sensors on the loop before and after the radiators. That way you can track the effectiveness of the loop. I am not sure that you really need more fan headers then the 8. One would be dedicated to monitoring the pump(s), 6 for dual 3 fan radiators, then one for an exhaust fan. If you wanted more fans, I would suggest getting low RPM ones and not worry about control of those. I think you would be fine without the HydroLux controller.


Originally posted by RaveFlyz


GPUs: As much as I love to see those titans in SLI I can't see myself spending that much money when I can get two 780s in dual SLI for a significant price decrease, and nearly the same amount of power. Though I noticed that the waterblocks that are used for SLI in the Digital storm machines are small, are they still as effective as say. Full coverage EK waterblocks, I dabbled with the thought of asking the DS team to order some of the "see through" SLI and full coverage blocks for this build just to make is more aesthetically pleasing. Though I guess looks aren't everything I don't really want to mess with the insides of this thing for a long time after purchase.


The 780s, with the higher clock rate, beat the Titans, with more cores, in about as many games as the other way around. A big thing is similar metals in the loop, to avoid corrosion. So, if the radiators are copper, then the waterblocks should be two. Both nickle and chrome are similar metals to copper.

Originally posted by RaveFlyz


PSU: Obligatory Platinum grade Corsair. 1200W gives me some upgrade options for the future, while allowing a stable GPU and CPU overclock.


Very good power supply, from all reports I have seen. This power supply also offers you the ability to combine or split 12V rails. Cosair's software also allows you monitor the unit with the use a USB port.

Originally posted by RaveFlyz


RAM: I went for the high end of this side merely for the possible addition of the LEDs for the Corsair Dominator Platinum, but I have heard that gaming only takes full advantage of 1600Mhz RAM, so should I downgrade here, or leave as is?


The processor supports 1866Mhz RAM without considering it an overclock. If you are looking to save it bit of money, then go ahead and change it. This won't make a big difference in performance either way.

Originally posted by RaveFlyz


SSD: 512 Samsung was a borrowed idea from a builder, though originally I had planned for two 240G or 256G SSDs not running in Raid 0. One for the OS, and the other for games. That's something I'd like to get people's opinion on since it really doesn't change the price at all to change from one large drive to two smaller drives if they both add up to the same amount of space.


With a large bulk data drive, 256GB is fine for an OS/Programs/Games drive. Unless, you intend to keep lots of games installed at the same time.

Originally posted by RaveFlyz


HDD: Mainly for data, originally I had an idea for 2TB or 1TB drives running in Raid 1 just for some assurance that if one drive crapped out on me I wouldn't loose all the data. This would mainly be for pictures/misc things that didn't need to be booted fast. The extra space is just a nice thing to have in my mind.


You should look at what you have for data stored now to consider what you will need in the future. Also, consider if you want to do game or smartphone videos. Those are going to take up a fair bit of space.

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One more thought on the graphics, keep the monitor to 1920x1080 or 1920x1200 for gaming. Graphics cards aren't really up to 60FPS on a 4k display, yet.
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  Quote RaveFlyz Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Oct 2013 at 7:41pm
Dang Dan I really appreciate the help man, your input has definitely given me a different perspective to look at. I'll be taking a lot of your reasoning into account as I continue to look over my build and tweak things here and there.

As for the monitors I had planned to go with the 24inch 144hz Asus monitors whether I went dual or triple.

Alex: Hey there man, I really wanted to say how much I love the site! Between the polished feel and the great service along with the attached forum. Good on you at Digital Storm.
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Glad to hear. We strive to do the best we can, I'm glad it shows!
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