High-End Build for Flight Simulator X

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   Ok...I want to build a high-end dedicated system for FSX.  I have read
many posts at numerous sites and I am a bit confused on how to
configure the system.  The biggest question I have is in regards to
video cards.  Originally I was going to spec it with 2 295's but I have
read complaints about the 295 with FSX.

If you were going to build the
ultimate dedicated FSX machine, how would you configure it using DSO? 
My budget will allow for a completely loaded machine (water cooling,
extreme processor, multiple video cards, etc.)

I want to order the system this week so any help would be greatly appreciated.

Best Regards,
Jeff - AZFlying

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azflying Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 30 Jul 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 4	Quote Reply Topic: High-End Build for Flight Simulator X Posted: 03 Aug 2009 at 12:34pm
	Ok...I want to build a high-end dedicated system for FSX. I have read many posts at numerous sites and I am a bit confused on how to configure the system. The biggest question I have is in regards to video cards. Originally I was going to spec it with 2 295's but I have read complaints about the 295 with FSX. If you were going to build the ultimate dedicated FSX machine, how would you configure it using DSO? My budget will allow for a completely loaded machine (water cooling, extreme processor, multiple video cards, etc.) I want to order the system this week so any help would be greatly appreciated. Best Regards, Jeff - AZFlying

DST4ME Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758	Quote Reply Posted: 03 Aug 2009 at 1:08pm
	fsx doesn't support sli, so anywhere you see sli or crossfire it won't help you. the 295 is in internal sli so it won't help you. Here you go Ticket# 316731 --- Price: $2860 (To see this build click here) Price after current promotion $2660 Copy of Specifications: Chassis Model: Cooler Master HAF 932 Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core) Motherboard: EVGA X58 3X SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports Triple SLI or CrossFire) System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1333MHz Digital Storm Certified by mushkin enhanced (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested) Power Supply: 1000W Corsair HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition) Card Reader: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (128GB Solid State (By: Corsair) (Model: CMFSSD-128GBG2D) Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 275 896MB (Includes PhysX Technology) Add-on Card: - No Thanks Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 3: High-Performance Liquid Chilled FrostBite System For CPU Liquid Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a H20: Stage 3 Cooling System Selected Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (UV) (Creates Glowing Effect For H20: Stage 3 UV Fluid) Enhancements: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Requires Air Cooling Upgrade) Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: Memory Fan Kit Only (Does not include memory overclocking service) Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) With Windows 7 Upgrade Coupon Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based) Virus Protection: - No Thanks Office: - No Thanks Benchmarking: - No Thanks Install/Test Game: - No Thanks LCD Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks External Storage: - No Thanks Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-10 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty now if you only use this for fsx and thus you know you will never go sli for other games then drop the psu to a 750w or 650w, if not and you might go sli then keep the 1000w.
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azflying Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 30 Jul 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 4	Quote Reply Posted: 03 Aug 2009 at 7:11pm
	Thanks for the reply. I posted the specs to an order I made. Please let me know if I am just crazy with these specs. Would this setup be substantially faster than yours? I'm sure at some point you pay an incredible amount of money for a small gain. Have I past that point? The computer would be used primarily for FSX but I would probably load some other games that can benefit from SLI. Would the 2nd GTX295 hurt the performance of FSX? My thought for the hard drive was use one drive for the OS and the other for FSX. Does that make any sense? I also put in the higher OC since I added water cooling. Is that pushing it too much? My budget can handle the cost of this system, but I want to make sure I am not wasting money either. Best Regard, Jeff - AZFlying Chassis Model: Digital Storm 950Si Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i7 Extreme Edition 975 3.33GHz (Quad Core) (Extreme Performance) Motherboard: EVGA X58 Classified 3X SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports Triple SLI or CrossFire) System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1866MHz Digital Storm Certified by mushkin enhanced (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested) Power Supply: 1200W PC Power & Cooling (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) (Recommended) Card Reader: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (160GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Extreme Performance) (Model: SDSA2MH160G1C5) Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (160GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Extreme Performance) (Model: SDSA2MH160G1C5) Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Internet Access: Killer Xeno Pro (Optimized for Online Gaming) Lag and Latency Reduction Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 1.792GB (Includes PhysX Technology) Add-on Card: - No Thanks Sound Card: Creative Labs X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Champion (Includes Front I/O) (PCI-Express Slot Based) Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 3: Specialized FrostBite Separate Dual Loop System for CPU & Two GTX 295 Video Cards Liquid Color:Blue: Non-conductive High-Performance Fluid (Requires H20: Stage 3 Cooling Package) Chassis Airflow: Upgrade Chassis With Zalman Performance Fans (Up to 6 Fans) Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Blue) Enhancements: LCD NZXT Sentry LX Temperature Display & Fan Controller (Requires Chassis Airflow Upgrade) Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock the processor between 4.0GHz to 4.2GHz (Requires H20 Cooling Upgrade) Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate (64-Bit Edition) With Windows 7 Upgrade Coupon Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based) Virus Protection: - No Thanks Office: - No Thanks Benchmarking: 3D Mark Vantage Advanced Edition (By: Futuremark) (Pre-Install) (Vista Compatible Only) Install/Test Game: - No Thanks LCD Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks External Storage: - No Thanks Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-10 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty

satsunada Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 21 May 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 682	Quote Reply Posted: 03 Aug 2009 at 7:50pm
	Lot of junk in there ya don't really need. The Killer Xeno Pro won't benefit you if you have any kind of decent internet connection ( most say it's useless ). You won't see any performance gain with the 2x295 in FSX and most likely it's a marginal boost over 3x275 which is far cheaper and possible. Also, since FSX doesn't utilize SLI, then you're still gonna see better results with a single 275. Don't buy an SSD right now, prices are dropping and they'll get far FAR cheaper soon. Why water cooling on the GPU's AND the fan upgrade with temp sensor? Not really needed. The 975 is rather unnecessary as well, stick with the 920 or 950 if you're really desperate for power. The 920 can get ya where ya need to go on it's own though. I'd recommend the memory fan kit (not the overclock ) to help with cooling. Oh.. and at your current setup, you may need headphones cuz the zalman's + 295 + 1200W power source will make your computer sound like it's a generator. Honestly, at the budget you seem to be at, I'd recommend going with what DST posted and see if you like it/can deal with it and then look at your options when things get economical later this fall and further major new releases come out. DS can walk you through upgrades or you can send it back and have them do it. I wouldn't recommend this like 2 months ago but with the "gulftown" processors coming and the 300 series from Nvidia coming out sometime this fall along with big developments in the SSD world, it may actually do you better to have something that works and save the money to get something after all the new cool stuff comes out.

DST4ME Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758	Quote Reply Posted: 03 Aug 2009 at 8:22pm
	As satsunada said, you build is big waste of money, and no its not faster then my config in fsx, actually its slower, and you got lots of things in there you will never need, like the 1200w psu and other things. your cpu will be faster but that you will only notice in tasks and not games.
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azflying Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 30 Jul 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 4	Quote Reply Posted: 03 Aug 2009 at 8:22pm
	Thanks for the reply. Will the "gulftown" processors be much better then the I7's? I will stick with what DST posted and wait until later this fall to see what comes out. I was surprised at the cost of the SSD's! Best Regards, Jeff - AZFlying

AbsiNthe Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 31 May 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 87	Quote Reply Posted: 04 Aug 2009 at 3:41pm
	Gulftown are going to be 32nm, while the i7s are 45nm. For FSX and all other games out now and for a while, the current nehalems are excellent. The 920 is amazing. Edited by AbsiNthe - 04 Aug 2009 at 3:41pm

DST4ME Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List DS ELITE Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 36758	Quote Reply Posted: 04 Aug 2009 at 6:56pm
	Gulftown will still fit a x58 mobo, so you can upgrade to that anytime you like, it has 2 more cores but I'm not sure if you will notice any difference in fsx in that.
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